Passover Lamb or Easter Ham?

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Passover Lamb or Easter Ham?An ongoing debate among those who seek Yahshua/Jesus. My we leave any person emotions out and focus only on factual truth.

Yahanan (John) 4:23-24, “But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in Spirit and in truth; for the Father seeks just such worshipers to worship Him. YHWH is a Spirit Being; and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth.”


2 Timothy 2:15, “Study to show yourself approved to YHWH: a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”


1 Thessalonians 5:21, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is righteous.”


Hosheyah 4:6, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me..”



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The New International Dictionary Of The Christian Church, by J.D. Douglas, Zondervan Publishing, Grand Rapids, MI,1974, page 322

EASTER. The celebration of Christ’s resurrection. Although the Scriptures make no provision for the observance of Easter as the day of resurrection, all the evidence suggests that the celebration of the death and resurrection of Christ began at a very early date in the history of the church, probably as early as the apostolic age. It would seem also that the Christians of the first century consciously sought to create a Christian parallel to the Jewish Passover, since the close relationship between the significance of that event in the O.T. and the crucifixion in the N.T. made a transformation of that Jewish feast into Easter both logical and easy. After a.d. 100, Easter, Pentecost, and Epiphany became the final parts of the church year.



Funk and Wagnall’s Standard Reference Encyclopedia, 5 Volume 8

An important historic result of the difference was that the Christian churches in the East, which were closer to the birthplace of the new religion, and in which old traditions were strong, observed Easter according to the date of the Passover festival, while the churches of the West, whose communicants were descendants of Greco-Roman civilization, celebrated Easter on a Sunday. Settlement of this difference was one of the objects of the Roman emperor Constantine in convoking, in 325 A.D. the Council of Nicæa



Collier’s Encyclopedia, Volume 17, page 520

NICAEA, COUNCILS OF [naisi’ ], were two in number. (1) The first (first Ecumenical), in a.d. 325, convoked by Constantine, condemned Arianism, which was essentially a denial of the divine nature of the Word, and so of the Son of God, Christ. The traditional number of bishops present was 318 (see Genesis 14:14); the real number was probably about 270. The council defined the doctrine that the Son is con-substantial (ὁμοούσιὸφ) with the Father. In the drawing up of the formula leading parts were taken by St. Athanasius and Hosius, bishop of Cordoba; the latter probably presided. The council promulgated the famous Nicene Creed in its original form. It also decided that Easter should thenceforth be celebrated everywhere at the same time in accordance with the alexandrine computation.


Collier’s Encyclopedia, Volume 8, page 492


EASTER, the church feast which commemorates the resurrection of Jesus Christ, is considered the most ancient and most important festival of the Christian year. Prior to the time of Pope Victor I (189-c. 198), the Western churches as a rule kept Easter on the first day of the week, while many of the Eastern churches, conforming to the Jewish rule, observed it on the fourteenth of the month of Nisan. Through the energetic efforts of Pope Victor, the latter practice gradually disappeared. But another problem came to the fore: granted that Easter was to be kept on Sunday, how was that Sunday to be determined? The Council of Nicaea (325) paved the way for a final settlement by ruling that Easter is to be observed by all on the same Sunday, that this must be the Sunday following the fourteenth day of the paschal moon, and that that moon was to be accounted as the paschal moon whose fourteenth day followed the vernal equinox. Because of differences in the systems of chronology followed in various places, however, the decrees of Nicaea did not immediately remove all difficulties nor win universal acceptance. The Gregorian correction of the calendar in 1582, moreover, introduced still further discrepancies. Throughout Western Christendom the corrected calendar is now universally accepted, and Easter is solemnized on the first Sunday after the full moon following the vernal equinox, with the result that the earliest possible date is March 22, the latest, April 25.





New International Dictionary Of The Christian Church, by J.D. Douglas, Zondervan Publishing, Grand Rapids, MI,1974,page 322

CHRISTIAN YEAR, THE. The early Christians who were mainly Jews were used not only to keeping one day in the week as separate but also to marking the year with certain religious festivals, notably Passover, Tabernacles, and Pentecost. From early times Christians kept a commemoration of Christ’s resurrection. This was held at Passover time and was finally fixed on the Sunday following Passover. Pentecost was then celebrated at the appropriate time; the fifty days between the two were days of joy and rejoicing. The choice of 25 December (in the East, 6 January) for the birth of Christ is almost certainly because that day was the great pagan day of honor to the sun, and in Rome in the fourth century it was transformed into a Christian festival. From the fourth century the Christian calendar became more historical in character, and the Holy Week and Ascension Day appeared. Pentecost became the day of giving of the Holy Spirit. Lent arose out of the custom of preparing catechisms for baptism at Easter. Saints’ days came into the calendar either through the commemoration of a martyrdom or through the date of a dedication of a church in honor or a particular saint.




Dictionary of CHRISTIANITY in AMERICA

EASTER
Easter. An annual celebration of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. The precise origin and development of the celebration of Easter remain obscure, though it is likely that the early church annually celebrated the event of Christ's resurrection as a parallel to the Jewish Passover celebration. The gospels relate that it was during the Passover season that Christ died and rose from the dead. This connection with Passover is the origin of another ancient name for Easter, Pascha, derived from the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew name for the festival. The Council of Nicea in 325 decreed that Easter should be celebrated on the first Sunday after the vernal equinox, but the dating of Easter continued to be a matter of controversy within the church. The celebration of Easter developed as part of a liturgical complex including the events of Holy Week and the preparatory period of Lent. Churches with a strong liturgical tradition reflect in their worship the drama of Christ's movement toward the cross and the climax in the victory of the resurrection. From as early as the third century, new adult converts kept expectant vigil throughout Saturday night, were baptized early on Easter morning and then received their first Communion. The celebration of Easter has included the use of light—traditionally candles—to symbolize theophany and the triumph of Christ over darkness. The practice of the vigil continues in liturgical church traditions, with the so-called Paschal Vigil capping the Easter triduum or three days of services. The service consists of Old Testament lessons mixed with psalms and prayers. More recently, the baptismal liturgy has been replaced by a renewal of baptismal vows. Easter Communion, or Eucharist is an important occasion in most church traditions, and for those who only rarely take Communion it is frequently viewed as obligatory. In the Greek Orthodox Church, individuals greet one another on Easter with the words "Christ is risen," to which they receive the response "he is risen indeed." The Orthodox celebrate Saturday evening with a candlelight procession outside the church. On entering the church the pealing of bells marks the beginning of the Easter Morning Prayer, which is followed by the Eucharist. In America, evangelical and other Protestant churches frequently hold Easter sunrise services in addition to their regular worship. These early-morning gatherings are usually held outdoors in a park setting. Larger ecumenical gatherings may be hosted by a local ministerial association and are held in open stadiums or other large outdoor gathering places. These services include the joyous singing of hymns celebrating the resurrection, the reading of the resurrection account from one of the gospels, prayers and preaching. Easter is also an occasion for wearing new clothes and a traditional time for the extended family to gather and share a meal, typically including ham. The celebration of Easter, at least for Anglo-Saxons, originally seems to have supplanted a pagan celebration of Spring, With the growth of religious pluralism and secularism in American culture, vestiges of the original pagan celebration—such as the fertility symbols of eggs and rabbits—have provided a popular alternative theme of celebration. Inevitably, this has eroded the formerly dominant Christian interpretation of the day.



BIBLIOGRAPHY. F. X. Weiser, The Easter Book (1954); F. X. Weiser, Handbook of Christian Feasts and Customs (1958). The Editors (from Dictionary of Christianity in America, edited by Daniel G. Reid, Robert D. Linder, Bruce L. Shelley and Harry S. Stout. © 1990 by InterVarsity Christian Fellowship/USA; published by InterVarsity Press. All rights reserved.)
 

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p.2579 ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION, SECOND EDITION

EASTER, the most important of all Christian feasts, celebrates the passion, the death, and especially the resurrection of Jesus Christ. The English name Easter, like the German Ostern, probably derives from Eostur, the Norse word for the spring season, and not from Eostre, the name of an Anglo-
Saxon goddess. In Romance languages the name for Easter is taken from the Greek Pascha, which in turn is derived from the Hebrew Pesah: (Passover). Thus Easter is the Christian equivalent of the Jewish Passover, a spring feast of both harvest and deliverance from bondage. The Eastern Slavs call Easter “the great day” and greet one another, as do the Greeks, with the words “Christ is risen,” receiving the response “He is risen indeed.” Easter is the earliest of all annual Christian feasts. It may originally have been observed in conjunction with the Jewish Passover on the fourteenth day of the month Nisan. Gradually, however, it was observed everywhere on Sunday, the day of Christ’s resurrection. The Council of Nicaea (325) prescribed that Easter should always be celebrated on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the spring equinox. Easter was fundamentally a nocturnal feast preceded by a fast of at least one day. The celebration took place from Saturday evening until the early morning hours of Sunday. In the fifth century Augustine of Hippo called this “the mother of all vigils.” From at least the time of Tertullian (third century) the Easter Vigil (also called the Paschal Vigil)

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was the favored time for baptism, since the candidates for initiation mirrored the new life won by Christ from the darkness of death. The symbolism of light became an important feature of this nocturnal festival. It was customary on the Saturday evening of the Easter Vigil to illuminate not only churches but entire towns and villages with lamps and torches; thus the night was called “the night of illumination.” From at least the end of the fourth century in Jerusalem the lighting of lamps at vespers took on a special character at this feast. In Northern European countries the use of special lights at Easter coincided with the custom of lighting bonfires on hilltops to celebrate the coming of spring; this is the origin of the Easter fire later kindled in Western Christian Easter Vigils. Large Easter candles also became the rule, and poems were composed in honor of them and thus of Christ the light, whom they symbolized. Such poems stem from as early as the fourth century; the most famous, still employed in various versions, is the Exultet, which originated in the seventh or eighth century. In the East, among the Orthodox, Holy Saturday night is celebrated with a candlelight procession outside the church building. After a solemn entrance into the church, bells peal and the Great Matins or Morning Prayer of Easter begins. It is followed by a solemn celebration of the Eucharist according to the liturgy of Saint Basil. The Easter Vigil also contains a number of biblical readings. In the East the baptisms took place during the long readings of the vigil, whereas in the West a procession to the baptistery took place after the readings had been completed. In both cases the celebration of the Eucharist followed the baptisms. With the decline in adult conversions and, hence, in Easter baptisms during the Middle Ages, the time for the vigil service (and thus the end to fasting) was moved up to Saturday morning; however, the Roman Catholic church restored the nocturnal character of the service in 1952 and other rites relating to Holy Week in 1956. In the current Roman Catholic, Lutheran, and Episcopalian rites the Paschal
Vigil is the high point of a triduum, or three days of services, celebrating the death and resurrection of Christ. From at least the end of the fourth century, Easter was provided in Jerusalem with an octave, eight days of celebration. With the medieval decline in the octave celebration, Monday and Tuesday of Easter week nevertheless retained the character of holidays. In a larger context the whole of the fifty days from Easter Sunday to Pentecost was properly called Easter, and so constituted a feast in its own right; the eight-day octave, however, was a time of special recognition of the newly baptized. The Sunday after Easter was called the “Sunday in white” because the newly baptized wore their baptismal garments for the last time on that day, and among the Orthodox the octave of Easter is still called “the week of new garments.” Devotions tied to the liturgy of Easter are the origins of liturgical drama. In the Middle Ages it was customary to bury the consecrated host and a cross, or simply a cross, in an Easter sepulcher on Holy Thursday or Good Friday. The host or cross was retrieved on Easter Sunday morning and brought to the altar in procession. From this practice developed a brief Easter play called the Visitatio sepulchri (Visit to the Tomb), which enacted the visit of the two women to Christ’s empty tomb. The same dramatic dialogue can be seen in the eleventh-century poetic sequence Victimae paschali laudes (Praise to the Paschal Victim), which became part of the Western liturgy. A number of popular customs mark Easter Sunday and the rest of Easter week. One such custom, allied to the coming of spring with its earlier sunrise, is an outdoor sunrise service celebrating the resurrection. Such celebrations are especially popular among American Protestants. Since Easter was a time in which the newly baptized wore shining white garments, it became customary to wear new clothes on Easter Sunday and to show them off by walking around town and countryside; thus originated the Easter promenade or Easter parade, popular in many places. Among the most familiar Easter symbols are the egg and rabbit. The egg symbolizes new life breaking through the apparent death (hardness) of the eggshell. Probably a pre-Christian symbol, it was adapted by Christians to denote Christ’s coming forth from the tomb. In many countries the exchange of colored or decorated eggs at Easter has become customary. The Easter Bunny or Rabbit is also most likely of pre-Christian origin. The rabbit was known as an extraordinarily fertile creature, and hence it symbolized the coming of spring. Although adopted in a number of Christian cultures cultures, the Easter Bunny has never received any specific Christian interpretation. Among Easter foods the most significant is the Easter lamb, which is in many places the main dish of the Easter Sunday meal. Corresponding to the Passover lamb and to
Christ, the Lamb of God, this dish has become a central symbol of Easter. Also popular among Europeans and Americans on Easter is ham, because the pig was considered a symbol of luck in pre-Christian European culture. SEE ALSO Baptism; Christian Liturgical Year; Drama, article on European Religious Drama; Egg; Passover; Pigs; Rabbits.


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Another stream in the ancient Near Eastern tradition of goddess worship flows from the Mesopotamian civilization located on the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. In that area the goddess Inanna was worshiped; she was the queen of heaven and earth and the goddess of love, and she was profoundly involved in the rise of Sumerian state-level social organization. Although she was one of many goddesses of ancient Sumer, Inanna outlasted and overshadowed them all. Also known as Ishtar and later worshiped by different Semitic peoples, Inanna had very ancient roots. She was part of an amalgamation of Sumerian and Akkadian religious and political beliefs, extending back to 3000 BCE or possibly further, and she is connected to the fertility of crops, the emergence of increasing sedentary patterns of social organization, and the development of the first urban centers. In the late nineteenth century the world’s oldest texts on cuneiform clay tablets were unearthed after having been buried for at least four thousand years. Some of these texts tell the life story of Inanna from adolescence through womanhood and her eventual apotheosis. The texts are extremely rich; they reveal the sexual fears and desires of the goddess, an elaborate history of kinship among various deities in her family tree, her power as queen of Sumer, and her responsibilities for the redistribution of resources and fertility of the earth. Inanna’s cult was centered at the ancient temple city of Uruk. Here archaeologists have provided evidence for the earliest known urban civilization, dated 3900–3500 BCE and characterized by monumental temple architecture and the first writing. The oldest shrine of Uruk was dedicated to Inanna, as were numerous later temples. She was the supreme patroness of the city. Though related to other deities, she retained a certain degree of independence. Inanna’s shrine was the focus of considerable economic activity and the redistribution of resources characteristic of urban life. Unlike the female divinities of India and Egypt, the goddess Inanna, who was most likely derived from Neolithic and possibly even earlier Paleolithic roots, played the principal role in the religious tradition of an urban society. She was considered to have equal status with the sky god, An, head of the Sumerian pantheon. In this urban context, Inanna became a focal point for the full emergence of life in city-states, and she assumed the regal responsibility for victory in war and the redistribution of resources among urban peoples. Often these functions have been allotted to male deities in other traditions, as in the case of the Hindu gods Shiva and Jaganna¯tha. Inanna is identified with the Semitic goddess Ishtar and the West Semitic goddess Astarte. These deities, along with the Canaanite goddesses Asherah and Anat (a wrathful warlike deity), were worshiped by the early Hebrew people. It is certain that the early Israelites worshiped the Canaanite goddess Asherah; even Solomon praised the pillars representing this deity, and his son Rehoboam erected an image of her in the temple at Jerusalem. Probably the female deities of the early monarchic period did not disappear but were changed into different forms, despite repeated efforts to reestablish a strong monotheism in Judaism in the biblical period. Raphael Patai (1967) has argued that various disguises are assumed by the goddess in later Judaism: she appeared in the form of the cherubim (depicted as man and woman in an erotic embrace); in images of Yahveh’s wife Astarte; as the one and only God having two aspects, male and female; and in the form of the Shekhinah (the personified presence of God on earth). In this latter form, the Shekhinah argues with God in defense of man; she is sometimes manifested as Wisdom and at other times as the Holy Spirit. The feminine element played an important role in qabbalistic thought, especially in the thirteenth-century Zohar, which stressed the Shekhinah as female divine entity; she was also referred to there as Matronit (“divine matron”). The Shekhinah was seen as an intermediary between God and the scattered peoples of Israel and was widely accepted in Jewish communities in the fifteenth to eighteenth centuries, when Qabbalah had widely felt influence. According to Patai, the complex concept in Qabbalah that the Shekhinah and God are one, filtered down to the Jewish masses, led to the simplified belief in her as a goddess. Although the early Israelites engaged in the worship of female deities, at some point goddess worship was removed from the religious tradition. Whether one places this purge of the goddess early in Judaism or posits a disguised form of goddess worship that was retained for centuries and then finally removed, the really important question is why the phenomenon was eliminated from the tradition at all. Some feminist scholars have argued that this purge of the feminine represents a repression of women. However, the phenomenon can be explained also by the purely theological argument that monotheism requires the loss of all “extraneous” deities, no matter what gender. This raises yet another question. Why has none of the monotheistic religions worshiped a feminine deity as its centerpiece? Could there be some truth to the often asserted position that monotheism represents a
final ideological phase in the evolution of complex state-level civilizations? If this were true, how then does one explain Indian civilization, which is clearly a state-level form of social organization, but is neither monotheistic nor associated with an exclusively dominant male divinity? Perhaps the gender of deities has little, if anything, to do with the social structure in which they are manifested. Such questions require further research from different theoretical perspectives.
 

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from the words of Constantine "the Great" himself, at the Council of Nicea in the year 325 of this Common Era, saying:


Council of Nicea, pg. 52;
“and truly, in the first place, it seems to everyone a most unworthy thing that we should follow the customs of the Jews in the celebration of this most holy solemnity, who, polluted wretches! having stained their hands with a nefarious crime, are justly blinded in their minds. It is ft, therefore, that rejecting the practice of this people, we should perpetuate to all future ages the celebration of this rite, in a more legitimate order, which we have kept from the first day of our “Lord’s” passion even to the present times. Let us then have nothing in common with the most hostile rabble of the Jews.


The Council of Nicea, page 23;
Easter day was fixed on the Sunday immediately following the full moon which was nearest after the Vernal Equinox, because it is certain that our Savior rose from the dead on the Sunday which next succeeded the Passover of the Jews. According to the calculations adopted at the Council of Nicea, which are still in effect in every Christian Church and Assembly in this world, we read: If the Passover fell on a Sunday, Easter was to be the following Sunday, so as to have nothing in common with the Jews.
 

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You do realize most people don't read copy and pastes? Especially when they come through in a tiny, squished font?

Please just say what you want in your own words, and I would be happy to read it. Although, I might disagree!
 

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You do realize most people don't read copy and pastes? Especially when they come through in a tiny, squished font?

Please just say what you want in your own words, and I would be happy to read it. Although, I might disagree!
The slides are my own work and the text is from Encyclopedias, Dictiopnaries, etc. Vital to understanding the history IMO, and if I make a historical claim without showing evidence that is just silly. And I know most wont read it, it is for who it is for...
 

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EASTER. The greatest festival of the Christian church commemorates the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is a movable feast, that is, it is not always held on the same date. The church council of Nicea (a.d. 325) decided that Easter should be celebrated on the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the vernal equinox (March 21). Easter can come as early as March 22 or as late as April 25. The name Easter comes from the ancient Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring, Eostre or Ostara, in whose honor an annual spring festival was held. Some of our Easter customs have come from this and other pre-Christian spring festivals. Others come from the Passover feast of the Jews, observed in memory of their deliverance from Egypt (see Passover). The word ‘‘paschal,’’ meaning ‘‘pertaining to Easter,’’ like the French word for Easter, Pâques, comes through the Latin from the Hebrew name of the Passover.
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Unger’s Bible Dictionary, by Merrill F. Unger, page 283
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Easter (Gr. pascha, from Heb. pesah), the Passover, and so translated in every passage excepting ‘‘intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people’’ (Acts 12:4). In the earlier English versions Easter had been frequently used as the translation of pascha. At the last revision Passover was substituted in all passages but this. See Passover. The word Easter is of Saxon origin, Eastra, the goddess of spring, in whose honor sacrifices were offered about Passover time each year. By the 8[SUP]th[/SUP] century Anglo-Saxons had adopted the name to designate the celebration of Christ’s resurrection.
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‘‘Many Easter customs come from the Old World...colored eggs and rabbits have come from pagan antiquity as symbols of new life...our name ‘Easter’ comes from ‘Eostre’, an ancient Anglo Saxon goddess, originally of the dawn. In pagan times an annual spring festival was held in her honor. Some Easter customs have come from this and other pre-Christian spring festivals.’’
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Funk & Wagnall’s Standard Reference Encyclopedia, Volume 8, page 2940
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Although Easter is a Christian festival, it embodies traditions of an ancient time antedating the rise of Christianity. The origin of its name is lost in the dim past; some scholars believe it probably is derived from Eastre, Anglo-Saxon name of a Teutonic goddess of spring and fertility, to whom was dedicated Eastre month, corresponding to April. Her festival was celebrated on the day of the vernal equinox, and traditions associated with the festival survive in the familiar Easter bunny, symbol of the fertile rabbit, and in the equally familiar colored Easter eggs originally painted with gay hues to represent the sunlight of spring. Such festivals, and the myths and legends which explain their origin, abounded in ancient religions. The Greek myth of the return of the earth-goddess Demeter from the underworld to the light of day, symbolizing the resurrection of life in the spring after the long hibernation of winter, had its counterpart, among many others, in the Latin legend of Ceres and Persephone. The Phrygians believed that their all-powerful deity went to sleep at the time of the winter solstice, and they performed ceremonies at the spring equinox to awaken him with music and dancing. The universality of such festivals and myths among ancient peoples has led some scholars to interpret the resurrection of Christ as a mystical and exalted variant of fertility myths.
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Unger’s Bible Dictionary, by Merrill F. Unger, page 283

Easter (Gr. pascha, from Heb. pesah), the Passover, and so translated in every passage excepting ‘‘intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people’’ (Acts 12:4). In the earlier English versions Easter had been frequently used as the translation of pascha. At the last revision Passover was substituted in all passages but this. See Passover. The word Easter is of Saxon origin, Eastra, the goddess of spring, in whose honor sacrifices were offered about Passover time each year. By the 8[SUP]th[/SUP] century Anglo-Saxons had adopted the name to designate the celebration of Christ’s resurrection.




Compton’s Encyclopedia, Volume 4


‘‘Many Easter customs come from the Old World...colored eggs and rabbits have come from pagan antiquity as symbols of new life...our name ‘Easter’ comes from ‘Eostre’, an ancient Anglo Saxon goddess, originally of the dawn. In pagan times an annual spring festival was held in her honor. Some Easter customs have come from this and other pre-Christian spring festivals.’’




Funk & Wagnall’s Standard Reference Encyclopedia, Volume 8, page 2940


Although Easter is a Christian festival, it embodies traditions of an ancient time antedating the rise of Christianity. The origin of its name is lost in the dim past; some scholars believe it probably is derived from Eastre, Anglo-Saxon name of a Teutonic goddess of spring and fertility, to whom was dedicated Eastre month, corresponding to April. Her festival was celebrated on the day of the vernal equinox, and traditions associated with the festival survive in the familiar Easter bunny, symbol of the fertile rabbit, and in the equally familiar colored Easter eggs originally painted with gay hues to represent the sunlight of spring. Such festivals, and the myths and legends which explain their origin, abounded in ancient religions. The Greek myth of the return of the earth-goddess Demeter from the underworld to the light of day, symbolizing the resurrection of life in the spring after the long hibernation of winter, had its counterpart, among many others, in the Latin legend of Ceres and Persephone. The Phrygians believed that their all-powerful deity went to sleep at the time of the winter solstice, and they performed ceremonies at the spring equinox to awaken him with music and dancing. The universality of such festivals and myths among ancient peoples has led some scholars to interpret the resurrection of Christ as a mystical and exalted variant of fertility myths.
 

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Yeremyah 7:18-20, “How the children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, while the women knead dough to make cakes for the Queen of Heaven, and how they pour out drink offerings to the hinder gods (elohim), so they may provoke Me to anger? Is it I Whom they provoke to anger? says Yahweh: Or is it not themselves, whom they harm to their own shame? Therefore this is what Yahweh says: Behold, My anger and My fury will be poured out on this place--on man and on beast, on the trees of the field and on the fruit of the ground--and it will burn and not be quenched.”


Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible:


Queen of Heaven: A goddess worshipped first in Judah in the late 7th century and then by Judahites who fled to Egypt after the Babylonian destruction of 586 b.c.e. (Jer. 7:16–20; 44:15–28). Jeremiah’s remarks associate the goddess with fertility and somewhat with war; she also, as her title indicates, has astral characteristics. The Canaanite goddess who best fits this description is Astarte, who is associated with both fertility and war and who has astral features. Phoenician inscriptions also ascribe to Astarte the title “Queen.” Astarte’s Mesopotamian counterpart, Ishtar, whose female devotees ritually weep in imitation of the goddess’ lamentations over her dead lover, Tammuz (Ezek.8:14).
 
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The Passover lamb pointed to JESUS....he already died, shed his blood, was crucified and paid for my sins.....is there N.T. scripture that tells me that I must partake of the Passover?
 

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I have a beef with this thread, so I'll fish for some feedback. I'm no chicken, but I will duck the ones who say Get stuffed! Of course, I can be a turkey with the worst of them, or ham it up with the best. Any way you're takin' it, it's not done 'til you bacon it.

Maybe I'll just avoid the whole controversy and have lentils with quinoa to celebrate the Resurrection, and concentrate on the meat of the word.
 

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The Passover lamb pointed to JESUS....he already died, shed his blood, was crucified and paid for my sins.....is there N.T. scripture that tells me that I must partake of the Passover?
Truly partaking of the Passover IS accepting the Sacrifice of Messiah.

1Peter/Kepha 1:18, “knowing that you were redeemed from your futile way of life inherited from your fathers, not with what is corruptible, silver or gold, but with the precious blood of Messiah, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless.”


Hebrews 9:11-12, "But the Messiah came near as a High Priest over the righteous things to come, with the great and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation; Nor through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once, for all, having obtained eternal redemption."


1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Therefore cleanse out the old leaven, so that you are a new lump, as you are unleavened. For also Messiah our Passover was offered for us. So then let us observe the festival, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of evil and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."


observe the festival” is word # G1858 - Heortazo, heortazo: I keep a feast, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: heortazo, Phonetic Spelling: (heh-or-tad'-zo), Short Definition: I keep a feast, Definition: I take part in a festival, keep a feast


1 Corinthians 15:20-23, “But now Messiah has been raised from the dead, and has become the first-fruit of those having fallen asleep. For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a Man. For as all die in Aḏam, so also all shall be made alive in Messiah . And each in his own order: Messiah the first-fruits, then those who are of Messiah at His coming,”
 

Magenta

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The Passover lamb pointed to JESUS....he already died, shed his blood, was crucified and paid for my sins.....is there N.T. scripture that tells me that I must partake of the Passover?
Luke 22

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And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among you, 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God be come. 19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and gave to them, saying, This is my body, which is given for you; do this in the remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also after supper he took the cup, saying,This cup is the New Testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

1 Corinthians 11:26 [FONT=&quot]“For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.”[/FONT]


 
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Luke 22

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And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among you, 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God be come. 19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and gave to them, saying, This is my body, which is given for you; do this in the remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also after supper he took the cup, saying,This cup is the New Testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

1 Corinthians 11:26 “For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.”


amen to that.......
 

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Psalm 40:6-8, “Sacrifice and meal offering You did not desire; You have opened my ears; Burnt offering and sin offering You did not ask for. Then I said, “See, I have come; In the scroll of the Book it is prescribed for me. I have delighted to do Your pleasure, O my Strength, And Your Torah is within my heart.”


Hebrew 10:5-7, “Therefore, coming into the world, He says, “Sacrifice and meal offering You did not desire, but a body You have prepared for Me. In burnt offerings and offerings for sin You did not delight. Then I said, ‘See, I come – in the roll of the book it has been written concerning Me – to do Your desire, O Yah.’ ”

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but a body You have prepared for Me"


 

stonesoffire

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Its good to know the customs and feasts of the Jews, and to see how these symbolize the life, death and resurrection of our Lord.

But, its just that. The body prepared for us is Jesus...the body prepared for Jesus is us. We are one. That is what is important is it not?

We are one with the Jewish nation through Messiah. Yet, they wait for Him to come. So we declare His death till He come. And live in resurrection life.

Personally, my preference would be lamb for the dinner. The day? The Sabbath day is the day of His death and resurrection and we rest our life in Him. Is how I see it and I believe it to be the truth.

I love the Jewish people. I love the ways of their worship. But, for some its of the heart. Others just rote. The heart is the matter...what matters the most.

For the body of Christ....its His Spirit. Living out of heaven now.
 

Hizikyah

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Its good to know the customs and feasts of the Jews, and to see how these symbolize the life, death and resurrection of our Lord.

But, its just that. The body prepared for us is Jesus...the body prepared for Jesus is us. We are one. That is what is important is it not?

We are one with the Jewish nation through Messiah. Yet, they wait for Him to come. So we declare His death till He come. And live in resurrection life.

Personally, my preference would be lamb for the dinner. The day? The Sabbath day is the day of His death and resurrection and we rest our life in Him. Is how I see it and I believe it to be the truth.

I love the Jewish people. I love the ways of their worship. But, for some its of the heart. Others just rote. The heart is the matter...what matters the most.

For the body of Christ....its His Spirit. Living out of heaven now.
Romans 11:11-36, “I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Let it not be! But by their fall deliverance has come to the gentiles, to provoke them to jealousy. And if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the gentiles, how much more their completeness! For I speak to you, the gentiles, inasmuch as I am an emissary to the gentiles, I esteem my service, if somehow I might provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. For if their casting away is the restoration to favour of the world, what is their acceptance but life from the dead? Now if the first-fruit is set-apart, the lump is also. And if the root is set-apart, so are the branches. And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, have been grafted in among them, and came to share the root and fatness of the olive tree, do not boast against the branches. And if you boast, remember: you do not bear the root, but the root bears you! You shall say then, “The branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” Good! By unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by belief. Do not be arrogant, but fear. For if Yah did not spare the natural branches, He might not spare you either. See then the kindness and sharpness of Yah: on those who fell sharpness, but toward you kindness, if you continue in His kindness, otherwise you also shall be cut off. And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, shall be grafted in, for Yah is able to graft them in again. For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree, how much more shall these who are the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? For I do not wish you to be ignorant of this secret, brothers, lest you should be wise in your own estimation, that hardening in part has come over Yisra’ĕl, until the completeness of the gentiles has come in. And so all Yisra’ĕl shall be saved, as it has been written, “The Deliverer shall come out of Tsiyon, and He shall turn away wickedness from Ya‛aqoḇ, and this is My covenant with them, when I take away their sins.” Truly, as regards the Good News they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and the calling of Yah are not to be repented of. For as you also at one time disobeyed Yah, but now have obtained compassion through their disobedience, so also these have now disobeyed, that through the compassion shown you they also might obtain compassion. For Yah has shut them all up to disobedience, in order to have compassion on all. Oh, the depth of riches, and wisdom and knowledge of Yah! How unsearchable His judgments and untraceable His ways! “For who has known the mind of יהוה ? Or who has become His counsellor?” “Or who first gave to Him, and it shall be given back to him?” Because of Him, and through Him, and to Him, are all, to whom be esteem forever. Amĕn. Rom 12:1, “I call upon you, therefore, brothers, through the compassion of Yah, to present your bodies a living offering – set-apart, well-pleasing to Yah – your reasonable worship.”


John (Yahanan) 15:4-6, "Abide in Me, and I in you. Just as the branch cannot produce fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, produces much fruit; but without Me, you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away like a branch, and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned."
 
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What about these verses?

Mark 15:25
And it was the third hour when they crucified him.

Luke 22:1
Now the Festival of Unleavened Bread, called the Passover, was approaching,
 
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