Paul was not qualified to be an apostle
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because the BIBLE calls Paul an apostle
and if you start tearing apart parts of the Bible or taking out the written words of Paul as NOT coming from God,
you create another religion and do as Satan often does: only teach half of the truth in order to twist those scriptures into a message that is NOT from God.
**I noticed the pronoun "we" are you speaking for LovePink as well as yourself?
ppl end up shown the door for saying Paul was a false apostle, okay? (seen it happen)...cuz it junks most of the NT (not to mention all of it cuz it means he deceived all the others).
oldhermit gave you more than enough.
the SENT ONES, inspired and authorized to give us Christ's doctrines; HAD TO BE witnesses of Him in His RESURRECTION....that was the qualification.
He appeared to Paul, later....if you know why it was timed for when it was, then you will know why He appeared to Paul LAST of all.
What exactly do you mean by "were the inspiration of the Holy Spirit?" Do you mean that it is from the mouth of God?
Because the idolatry of equating Paul as God leads to the heresy that what Paul says is what God says.
(I owe one person a reply, be back soon.)
Mark 13:34It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with their assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.
Acts 20:24However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace.
1 Corinthians 3:5What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task.
Galatians 2:7On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been to the circumcised.
Matthew 18:16But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’
Matthew 26:60But they did not find any, though many false witnesses came forward. Finally two came forward
scribe (skr
2. A professional copyist of manuscripts and documents.
3. A writer or journalist.
4. See scriber.
Luke was a scribe and a witness that followed and written down things that were said.
I vividly remember my undergraduate Scripture studies on the Gospels. My professor, a Franciscan nun, was well-versed in the Gospels and the Gospel writers. She began the semester-long course by saying that Dante referred to the writer of St. Luke’s Gospel as the “scribe of Christ’s gentleness.”
Luke was the only Gentile to write books of the Bible, and he was a close companion of St. Paul. St. Luke is known as a very gifted writer, a physician by trade with marked artistic abilities. The Gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles are works that depict an author who certainly was aware of the needs of his local community.
St. Luke: The Scribe of Christ’s Gentleness | Grow
Yes, that is true, thank you. Some of this issue is a misunderstanding of defining the term "Apostle".
I should have said no body with the authority to name Paul an apostle names him apostle.
Paul names people apostle who Christ did not name apostle, the writer of Acts names people apostle who Christ did not name apostle.
So, I use the term the way Christ defined it, to the twelve who will sit with him.
Apostle (Christian) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If you want to define the term so that it includes Paul, well that is fine: Then Benny Hinn is an apostle, Praus is an apostle, Marilyn Manson is an apostle, etc….
Could it be we don't want paul to be an apostle because he addressed homosexuality, fornication, wives in submission to husbands, workers being submissive to bosses, that it's grace through faith, not the law. This argument is stupid
Your reasoning, though emotional, is not a good argument. And besides, he cannot be a false apostle if he is not an apostle.
Do you really think Paul's words stands or falls on whether we call him an apostle or not?
The reason you need Paul to be the mouth piece for God is to validate so many other heresies that will fall if he is not the ventriloquist's puppet of God.
Exactly where? And how? You need to do more than just declare it.
Where does God say this? You are just making stuff up.
Apparently, you have far greater problems than just questioning the apostleship of Paul.
The bible calls all kinds of people apostle. Are you good with that? Is everyone an apostle?
Oh, this was done long before me. It started getting torn apart almost 2 thousand years ago, but it did not lead up to anything huge until the 1600's when Christianity changed into this weird sect that we have now all around.
This is a heresy that you don't believe anyway.
Really, do you think your song, sermon, song sandwich ceremony represents the "original religion". Not so.
I do not know her or have spoken to her, but I have watched you people abuse her, repeatedly. She phrased her OP awkwardly she was descended upon cruelly.
And now you have made her feel awkward.
Peter says Paul's writings are scripture on the same pare with all other scripture. This makes his writing the work of the Holy Spirit, not Paul for "all scripture is inspired of God..."
That is not what Peter says. You are adding to scripture, again.
And when Paul said, "all scripture is inspired of God…" in his letter there was no New Testament. Scritpure when Paul said that include the Old Testament, the Deuterocanonicals, and parts of the Psuedepigrapha. The later Two are denied by Protestants as "inspired". We have no indication from Paul's letter that he include the very letter he was writing as scripture or any of his later letters.
If you want to make the claim that "all scripture is inspired of God…" then you will probably need to include many more books into that category if you want that to be a true statement for you. Love to discuss the First book of Enoch with you.
2 Pet. 3:15-18, "...just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the REST of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, 18but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen."
The apostle Peter says Paul's letters are scripture. Do you think Peter was lying, mistaken, in was any way deceived concerning the credibility of Paul's letters.
The entire anthology of Acts and the epistles, bears testimony to the apostolic authority of Paul yet, you stand to challenge the weight of that testimony. Interesting!
The corrupt will be no longer, having put on the incorruptible. We will all be transformed to be just like Jesus, Salvation.
We will not be Yeshua, we will be like Him. No man knows exactly how this will be, but it will not be flesh as we know it in this corruptible creation and in these corruptible tabernacles calle our bodies.
We will not be Yeshua, we will be like Him. No man knows exactly how this will be, but it will not be flesh as we know it in this corruptible creation and in these corruptible tabernacles calle our bodies.
John 14:26But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
Revelation 22:6 The angel said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place.”
in·spire (
v.tr.1. To affect, guide, or arouse by divine influence.
2. To fill with enlivening or exalting emotion: hymns that inspire the congregation; an artist who was inspired by Impressionism.
3.a. To stimulate to action; motivate: a sales force that was inspired by the prospect of a bonus.
b. To affect or touch: The falling leaves inspired her with sadness.
4. To draw forth; elicit or arouse: a teacher who inspired admiration and respect.
5. To be the cause or source of; bring about: an invention that inspired many imitations.
6. To draw in (air) by inhaling.
7. Archaica. To breathe on.
b. To breathe life into.
v.intr.1. To stimulate energies, ideals, or reverence: a leader who inspires by example.
2. To inhale.