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If you are referring to the current civil war in Myanmar that is a slghtly different answer. In this world throughout history we have only had war and destruction. We are seeing the results of sin playing out as this world passes away.

But with Jesus there is hope:
[Jhn 14:27 KJV] 27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
[Jhn 16:33 KJV] 33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

There are promises for those who overcome.
[Isa 11:9 KJV] 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
 
Aaron56 said:
"Peace" ironically, is an artful term of warfare.
The Hebrew word Shalom is made up of 4 letters: Shin, Lamed, Vav, and Mem
In aggregate, they mean "destroy the authority that establishes chaos".

So "peace" is the destruction of chaos NOT the absence of conflict. A cease-fire is the absence of conflict but during one, men typically retain the impetus in their hearts for bloodshed. In a true peace, the enemy has lost the ability for warfare entirely.
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Hebrew is a VERB based (not nouns) metaphoric language. (Everything is said in a metaphoric fashion....using only verbs)
There really are no equivalencies in English....but we can get close.
 
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JohnDB said:
But the conflict of YOUR hermeneutics still exists....a complete clash of opposites.

How is Jesus the Prince of Peace if He said He comes not to bring peace but a sword....
AND
Blessed are the Peacemakers.

Nothing YOU have said yet reconciles these statements.
and your AI is also wrong....because it's just an idiot AI.

Me?
Now I can reconcile these things rather easily....I know scriptures well. I know what they mean and why they say what they say. It's more paradoxical than conflicting....and the real hermeneutics from these passages are extremely relevant for today.
Might want to find out if you actually want to be of service to God.
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Either you have failed to read my replies.. Or you have failed to understand my Replies..

And i have no idea what AI has to do with my replies?? thats come out of nowhere..
 
Aaron56 said:
"Peace" ironically, is an artful term of warfare.
The Hebrew word Shalom is made up of 4 letters: Shin, Lamed, Vav, and Mem
In aggregate, they mean "destroy the authority that establishes chaos".

So "peace" is the destruction of chaos NOT the absence of conflict. A cease-fire is the absence of conflict but during one, men typically retain the impetus in their hearts for bloodshed. In a true peace, the enemy has lost the ability for warfare entirely.
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Or better still, souls lose the will for war and operate by cooperation with God and consensus among men.
 
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Adstar said:
Either you have failed to read my replies.. Or you have failed to understand my Replies..

And i have no idea what AI has to do with my replies?? thats come out of nowhere..
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Oh I read your replies....they just did NOT resolve the conflict. YOU ALONE believe that you were successful in resolving the conflict.....but that doesn't change anything of the reality: you did not.

Ever read the Old Testament Prophesies?
You really need to....

Maybe just learn to use a concordance or even a simple study bible with notes.
Because that Reference to Malachi 7 is NOT optional in this instance in Matthew.

Because Jesus is directly quoting this poem/song's primary verse.

Read that prophesy....well....read and understand the entire book and especially understand this chapter's importance in that book and get back to me. It's not fun having a battle of wits when the opponent is unarmed.
 
JohnDB said:
Oh I read your replies....they just did NOT resolve the conflict. YOU ALONE believe that you were successful in resolving the conflict.....but that doesn't change anything of the reality: you did not.

Ever read the Old Testament Prophesies?
You really need to....

Maybe just learn to use a concordance or even a simple study bible with notes.
Because that Reference to Malachi 7 is NOT optional in this instance in Matthew.

Because Jesus is directly quoting this poem/song's primary verse.

Read that prophesy....well....read and understand the entire book and especially understand this chapter's importance in that book and get back to me. It's not fun having a battle of wits when the opponent is unarmed.
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I will use the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.. you can trust in your concordances if you want to trust your eternal salvation in them..
 
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Adstar said:
I will use the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.. you can trust in your concordances if you want to trust your eternal salvation in them..
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Your personal feelings are not the Holy Spirit and claiming such is tantamount to Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
So be very very careful.

Micah 7:6 is a direct quote by Jesus...literally W4W.
But yet you say Jesus quoting scripture never happened?

Uhhhhhh.....yeah....I'm not buying that.
 
JohnDB said:
Your personal feelings are not the Holy Spirit and claiming such is tantamount to Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
So be very very careful.

Micah 7:6 is a direct quote by Jesus...literally W4W.
But yet you say Jesus quoting scripture never happened?

Uhhhhhh.....yeah....I'm not buying that.
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In no way is it blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to claim inspiration from the Holy Spirit.. Be very careful with how you deal with other Christians in regard to their relationship with the Holy Spirit..

But yet you say Jesus quoting scripture never happened?
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Now that is simply a blatant LIE.. I never ever said such a thing.. EVER..

 
Adstar said:
In no way is it blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to claim inspiration from the Holy Spirit.. Be very careful with how you deal with other Christians in regard to their relationship with the Holy Spirit..



Now that is simply a blatant LIE.. I never ever said such a thing.. EVER..
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Stating YOUR feelings are the Holy Spirit is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit....because claims that Evil is Good is the exact definition of that....and ONLY God is Good....
I said nothing about your relationship with the Holy Spirit....but at the rate you are going....uhhhh....

So....
Now we come full circle....back to the original statement and questions that you have failed so spectacularly at answering or explaining.

Jesus is said to be the "Prince of Peace"
As in: "Blessed are the Peacemakers for....."

But in Matthew 10:34-36 Jesus says he has NOT come to bring peace but instead a sword....

So far in this cage match....
Anybody following along has figured out what Jesus has OBVIOUSLY meant by quoting the Micah 7 passage....kinda reallyboertinent for today's world too...just saying.

Now you have an opportunity to REALLY explain why Jesus was called the "Prince of Peace" and what He meant by "Blessed are the Peacemakers "

I gave you full opportunity for the layup....now the hard path is left for you....what is a "PEACEMAKER "?
Or
Maybe just yell out "UNCLE" and admit that you really dont know what you are talking about.
But admitting that (requirement for initial Salvation) might be a bridge too far.

So....Prince of Peace and Peacemaker.....there's the definitions you really need to explain because the sword thing is related....
 
JohnDB said:
Stating YOUR feelings are the Holy Spirit is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit....because claims that Evil is Good is the exact definition of that....and ONLY God is Good....
I said nothing about your relationship with the Holy Spirit....but at the rate you are going....uhhhh....

So....
Now we come full circle....back to the original statement and questions that you have failed so spectacularly at answering or explaining.

Jesus is said to be the "Prince of Peace"
As in: "Blessed are the Peacemakers for....."

But in Matthew 10:34-36 Jesus says he has NOT come to bring peace but instead a sword....

So far in this cage match....
Anybody following along has figured out what Jesus has OBVIOUSLY meant by quoting the Micah 7 passage....kinda reallyboertinent for today's world too...just saying.

Now you have an opportunity to REALLY explain why Jesus was called the "Prince of Peace" and what He meant by "Blessed are the Peacemakers "

I gave you full opportunity for the layup....now the hard path is left for you....what is a "PEACEMAKER "?
Or
Maybe just yell out "UNCLE" and admit that you really dont know what you are talking about.
But admitting that (requirement for initial Salvation) might be a bridge too far.

So....Prince of Peace and Peacemaker.....there's the definitions you really need to explain because the sword thing is related....
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No... not going to respond to such a nasty person... Not into toxicity..
 
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Adstar said:
No... not going to respond to such a nasty person... Not into toxicity..
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Oh come on....
Dont be all "Emperor has no clothes" on us now....
Just because you have the emotional incapability of admitting you are wrong doesn't mean we cant just talk.....
We might not be the exact each other's children's weddings...but we dont have to fight.
After all....
We were just getting to the good part of telling about Jesus and how He is a Peacemaker and the Prince of Peace....

Since the days of Cain and Abel....it is now a generational curse of conflict between people....just like Adam and Eve gave us the generational curse of Sin and eternal animosity between God and Man....man vs man is now generational as well. Meaning that your feelings being too important to you is normal "of the earth" behavior. Its NOT the Holy Spirit....

However....enter Jesus.
Since Peace between men is impossible...."born of sin" and "sin begets more sin" its impossible to have peace between men....they even argue theology.
However....peace, instead of enmity, is possible between man and God due completely to Jesus....the Messiah.

And those who can make peace between God and Mankind are the Peacemakers....but theres only One.....his name is Jesus.
 
GWH said:
Or better still, souls lose the will for war and operate by cooperation with God and consensus among men.
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Sure. Like "swords into plowshares".

"He will judge between many peoples
and will settle disputes for strong nations far and wide.
They will beat their swords into plowshares
and their spears into pruning hooks.
Nation will not take up sword against nation,
nor will they train for war anymore."

I was talking about the destruction of the enemy's schemes. Ultimately, we do not wrestle with other men but with evil, spiritual powers.
 
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The OP was from Myanmar which is currently fighting a civil war. When they are not fighting the suppression of human rights is one of their most long lasting achievements. I think he was searching for a tranquil type of peace but we may have scared him away.
 
rrcn said:
The OP was from Myanmar which is currently fighting a civil war. When they are not fighting the suppression of human rights is one of their most long lasting achievements. I think he was searching for a tranquil type of peace but we may have scared him away.
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Hope he is alive!
 
rrcn said:
The OP was from Myanmar which is currently fighting a civil war. When they are not fighting the suppression of human rights is one of their most long lasting achievements. I think he was searching for a tranquil type of peace but we may have scared him away.
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Longest civil war in human history is in Myanmar. (Burma) Its been going for well over 100 years now.

Having electricity and telecom outside of the brothel/casinos is special/unique to begin with. Very unique. Fleeting at best. Soldiers steal everything. Brothels, casinos and drugs usually pay for everything.
Nowadays rare earth elements also pay for things. But they also are unrefined....so the money for the deposits are low. But they tear up the ground to dig them out...leaving just holes behind. (Ecological disaster).
 
JohnDB said:
Longest civil war in human history is in Myanmar. (Burma) Its been going for well over 100 years now.

Having electricity and telecom outside of the brothel/casinos is special/unique to begin with. Very unique. Fleeting at best. Soldiers steal everything. Brothels, casinos and drugs usually pay for everything.
Nowadays rare earth elements also pay for things. But they also are unrefined....so the money for the deposits are low. But they tear up the ground to dig them out...leaving just holes behind. (Ecological disaster).
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Yes, human progress is costly and ecologically disastrous, dependent on demand by ever-increasing population.
Plugging holes is needed, but that costs even more--and folks already complain about paying more for gas.
 
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