Pig Heart Transplanted into Human Body

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ZNP said:
Jesus said God is the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, He is not the god of the dead but of the living. So they are clearly living in another universe -- hence multiverse. it is a standard doctrine that the dead are in Hades and there is a heaven. Again, multiverse.
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No; they are different parts of this creation, as Scripture states. You're looking at Scripture through the lens of modern speculative pseudoscience instead of the other way around.
 
Dino246 said:
No; they are different parts of this creation, as Scripture states. You're looking at Scripture through the lens of modern speculative pseudoscience instead of the other way around.
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This creation is a multiverse. Like bubbles. Yes they live in a different part of creation but there is a gulf between us and them and we cannot cross that boundary. Hence, multiverse.
 
ZNP said:
This creation is a multiverse. Like bubbles. Yes they live in a different part of creation but there is a gulf between us and them and we cannot cross that boundary. Hence, multiverse.
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That's not a multiverse, and you haven't read the relevant passages closely enough.
 
GiveThanks said:
It was a last-ditch effort to save Maryland man's life.

Doctors have transplanted the heart from a genetically modified pig into the chest of a man from Maryland in a last-ditch effort to save his life. The first-of-its-kind surgery is being hailed as a major step forward in the decades-long effort to successfully transplant animal organs into humans.
https://www.livescience.com/first-pig-heart-transplant-to-human
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If memory serves they transplanted a Baboons heart into a guy decades ago , think his name was Barney Clark ? ( the guy i mean )dont think he lived all that long tho.
 
lawrence101 said:
If memory serves they transplanted a Baboons heart into a guy decades ago , think his name was Barney Clark ? ( the guy i mean )dont think he lived all that long tho.
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Maybe it was tried multiple times?

From the op link article:
Although it's been tried before — one of the earliest subjects, known as Baby Fae, survived 21 days with a baboon's heart in 1984, according to Time — the practice has fallen into disuse because the animal organs are usually quickly rejected by their human host.
 
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Godsgirl83 said:
Maybe it was tried multiple times?

From the op link article:
Although it's been tried before — one of the earliest subjects, known as Baby Fae, survived 21 days with a baboon's heart in 1984, according to Time — the practice has fallen into disuse because the animal organs are usually quickly rejected by their human host.
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Ok just looked it up , actually Barney Clark was the first human to receive an artificial heart, my bad . Yes your right, In 1983, a baboon heart was transplanted into an infant known as Baby Fae, but she died 20 days later.
 
Just thought of something abit perplexing, if a donor of say a human heart was a christian and the rapture occurs what happens to the recipient ( who was not )?
 
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lawrence101 said:
Just thought of something abit perplexing, if a donor of say a human heart was a christian and the rapture occurs what happens to the recipient ( who was not )?
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1 Corintians 15:50-52 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God....In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
 
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My initial thought is that we are much more than our organs. We already use items in our bodies like pacemakers, to keep going. It is better to have a human heart, but if another animal's heart works, why not? The big question is should we exhaust all medical options available to stay alive? Is this part of being pro-life?
 
Genipher said:
Saw a few days ago that this guy that got the pig heart had stabbed a man in the back in 1988, crippled the guy.
Strange who they pick for these sorts of experiments.
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we will save anyone if it mean we can prolong our lives, that is what hopelessness does to you. If this is all there is then might as well stick around as long as possible. This was more for those people than the one who actually got the heart.
 
For me, it's to do with how the watchers messed with God's creation before. They mixed man with animals. Also, I believe I'm here as long as He wants me here, and to tell the truth, I don't want to be here a minute longer than I have to be. But I don't expect others to be like that. I have reasons for being like this.
 
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For me if it is an abomination to sacrifice a pig on the altar in the temple, then surely it is an abomination to put a pig in the heart of man, which is the temple of God.
 
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ZNP said:
For me if it is an abomination to sacrifice a pig on the altar in the temple, then surely it is an abomination to put a pig in the heart of man, which is the temple of God.
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But, most of us eat pig and love bacon. We are already putting pig into our bodies.
 
GiveThanks said:
It was a last-ditch effort to save Maryland man's life.
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Just like the bogus vaccines were a last ditch effort to "shut down" the pandemic. Surgeons should not be messing around, and the pigs would agree. When someone's time is up, then their time is up.
 
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Well, keep in mind too that it is not just that they put a pig heart in a human.
The pig heart was GENETICALLY ALTERED- they played with (altered) the pigs genes (DNA) to attempt to make the CROSS SPECIES heart transplant work.
Things like this were happening in the days of Noah, and look what the result was.
 
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GiveThanks said:
1 Corintians 15:50-52 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God....In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
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I guess you just dont get it do you ?
 
lawrence101 said:
I guess you just dont get it do you ?
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Seems pretty clear that she is using that verse to suggest that since a heart is flesh and blood it wouldn't be "disappearing" with you, so it would remain where it was/is presumably. Pretty good point and I hadn't thought of that verse in context with the "left behind" scenarios. It'd be the same with donated organs too (kidneys, etc.)

Is that what you are implying or are you saying something else?
 
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