Prayer.. cuz suicide is on my mind..

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I hope I am not out of line to say this, but reading your post it seems to me this goes deeper than the average depression. All I can offer is prayer, but I ask of you that you find a professional to talk to if you have not already.

Please trust me when I tell you this: Letting go, numbing the pain is NOT BETTER than the pain! And ending your life will not "fix" anything,
I do not know what you feel, but I know what it's like to cry out to God and ask Him to end it all, I also know what it's like to tell God to buzz off because it feels He brings more trouble than help, but you see, the fact that you're still here means God has a reason for letting you be here.
 
Oh I have had medication and Ive had helpl (doctors and such) when I was barely getting like this.. didnt work.. but still thank you. I dont see what you see but yea I thank you all the thing I can say back now.
 
wanting2believe said:
Avidan your message is not rejected.. I understand what your trying to teach.. but what you ask.. will and cannot be done not by many.. Im trying man.. Im trying.. but honestly I cant do it anymore.. so thats why I gave up already.. if its that hard to reach God.. then I give up man.

If Im called evil and if I am called that who didnt really want to be with God then I shall not hide from that name.. because I honestly cannot do it.. hey I can do all that.. honestly I can close myself off in a room.. with just a bible and food and I promise you by the end of the second day I will just end up crazy man.. crazy cuz I cannot do or go forward with this... but I take your word and I thank you but now take this word from this sinner....

Honestly man thank you.. but honestly I sometimes just want you feel how I feel and what I have my heart, and mind.. I would let anybody have this.. just so you can understand.. you can say all you want but you dont feel what I feel. See and understand what I feel, you have some knowledge of it..I do honestly know God can do it all.. still man, you need to be in my shoes. I know others have suffered greater things than me.. I never have said other wise.. but I suffer this pain.. I am the one who is suffering.. the one feeling it... so my suffering is greater in my person.. I cannot say my suffering is greater then yours.. because to you, your suffering is greater to you, in your person.. so I just need you just keep that in mind...

I tried it your way, I did what you told me to do.. it didnt help. Its does not take effect in my person.. but still I thank you.. but yea man I gave up... its not today but some day near I will.. cuz its a decision I have come to do.. I know that you have to say what you have to say.. but also listen to what I say.. I did what you told me.. it didnt take any effect none.. none.. you know that it didnt you were there. You read what I wrote to you.. you are witness that I told you that nothing happen and didnt gave me any comfort or push to actually keep on going with this battle.. Im evil, and a coward and all the above.. you know that..

Shriley thank you.. your prayers like Avidans are appreciated.. they are.. but honestly Jesus is not enough for me.. so If im bound to hell then so be it.. I accept it.. cuz how he wants me to do things.. are not possible in my person. If you and all the Christians find the strenght to cling on God then I applaud you because you guys are better people then me.. but I will not pretend or act something I cannot be.. but still I thank you.. and may God bless you all...
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Did you drop everything for the Lord? Did you give up all of your worldly friends and get rid of anything that comes before Him? I'm not saying this is easy. Following Jesus is the hardest road anyone can travel during this lifetime.

I am praying for you to have an understanding and revelation of what it means to claim Christ's life instead of your own. And to grab on to Him. To take His life and make it yours, instead of the life portrayed in your message above. I pray for all of the confusion and dismay to be routed and for faith to overtake unbelief. I pray for your eyes to be opened in Jesus Name, to see and understand.

I am not a better person than you are at all. I only have left my own life (which was just like yours which you've explained above), including my friends, loved ones, desires, ambitions, and possessions, clinging on to Jesus so I don't die. And in doing this I, and millions upon millions of other believers, have found the Lord Jesus Christ to be everything He claims to be.


Don't give up. Keep your eyes on Christ, the best way that you understand how to.

Seek, pray, fast, and read your Bible. Forsake the world. Sometimes going 'crazy' for a season is part of the journey. This part of it is from being double minded. Being tossed by the waves and winds, learning to keep our eyes on Him (not the storm) and building a trusting relationship with the Lord. As it is written: Every man must work out his own salvation with fear and trembling. This isn't an easy thing.



Read the messages you have written as well. Try to come up with some words that describe the attitude in them.

Hopelessness?
Discouragement?
Fear?
Complaining?

Don't tell us that Christ isn't enough. He is bigger than all of these things.

Stop complaining, be thankful, and keep speaking life.

Stop watching tv, stop doing anything else that fills your heart and mind with nonsense.

Fill your heart with Jesus' Words and don't stop.

It is hard. It's the hardest thing ever.

But, if you lose your life for Jesus, you will find new life in Him.

Please forgive me if you don't think that I am being sensitive or compassionate. I'm not a mother. There are mothers on here that will comfort you with their words. I am a father and I am a soldier. You are either going to fight or you are going to die. Now get up, Son, and fight.

Thanksgiving
Praise
Respect to the Lord, but, also openness to Him
Honor Him by standing on Christ and not yourself
Sacrifice
Prayer
Alone time with the Lord - as much as you can
Read the Bible (stand on Christ as your righteousness always)
Again - more time with Him than with anything else
Be generous and love others as you would like to be loved.

Practice all of this for the rest of your life. Get even more serious with Him and He will get serious with you. Cry before him, wail, and moan. Express your pain to Him.

Don't see any of us as 'good.' We are all like you, but, we don't hold onto that life any more. We hold on to Jesus' life. And now His life is our life. The old life is dead, and the new life is Christ.

Heavenly Father,

I stand with Jesus with His prayers for this young man. Send help and revelation. I pray that his sins are forgiven and the sins of his generations are forgiven in Jesus Name. Stand between him and that which is not good for him. Fight for him and let him hear You call him SON. In Jesus Name, Amen.
 
wanting2believe said:
Oh I have had medication and Ive had helpl (doctors and such) when I was barely getting like this.. didnt work.. but still thank you. I dont see what you see but yea I thank you all the thing I can say back now.
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I have mission for you brother. Go out and do an act of kindness for someone. If you must, take some money, pray for God to guide you to someone on the street who is in much need and kindly bless that person with the money which you've set aside to help someone. God will eventually repay you for it. It may only be a dollar or two, but to them it may be the difference between eating that day or not eating. Just go do something kind for someone today. Your heart is what needs healing and the best way to feel loved and valued as a human being is to give love to someone in need.

God bless.

gabriel
 
-.- avidan... did you leave everything... ok we are surrounded by the world..

ok I live with family who is really worldly even tho they do know of Jesus... I work as a student.. meaning I dont get money.. only tips.. so Im always around the world (family).. my friends are from the world.. ok what do you want me to do? Leave everything if I live in the world.. Im always home ... doing exercise I read the bible and here and there watch a few shows, read, listen to music.. I just am home atm and when I go out I go to church to worship or to go to prayer group or to go to church.. you need to open your eyes. You honestly think that Im just talking hot air.. Even tho I decided to give up.. doesnt mean Im always in the world ... you are currently getting me frustrated because I go to church read the bible, school, home exercise.. wIth do you think I do party, no.. go out clubbing.. no.. go out and do drugs or stupid stuff NO..

IM NOT THAT WORLDLY (NOT SAYING IM NOT A SINNER) IVE SAID IT MANY TIMES.. IVE BEEN IN THE CHURCH AND STUDYING AND LOOKING FOR GOD FOR YEARS.. I DID WHAT YOU TOLD ME TOO IT DONT WORK... IT DONT WORK!! YOUR WAY DOESNT WORK.. WISDOM? YES HOPEFULLY HE DOES SO I CAN FINALLY SAY SOMETHING TO MAKE IT THROUGH TO YOU THAT IVE TRIED.. SAYING VERSES AND GIVING ALL TO GOD HAS LEAD ME NOWHERE... NOWHERE.. NOT ENOUGH FOR ME.. OK.. JESUS CHRIST.. JESUS CHRIST I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP BUT JESUS CHRIST YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO ME EITHER... NEVER FELT SO DARN FRUSTRATED WITH ANYBODY .. JESUS CHRIST..YOU HONESTLY READ MY WORDS LIKE I READ YOURS AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR DOING.. PASTORS HAVE HELPED ME AND TRIED .. IVE GONE THROUGH THIS MANY TIMES.. BUT YOU ARE NOT LISTENING AVIDAN LISTEN READ WHAT IM SAYING COMPREHEND IT... I THANK YOU BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT IM SAYING..

I dont feel Jesus, God is not enough for me.. yet I still do my same things,Church, bible, home, exercise, school and look for work .. YES IVE DONE WHAT YOU ASKED YOU NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE.. but it dont work... -.-

thank you and God bless
Uriel
 
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Thank you.. honestly I do that when I can.. I give help, money, encouragement.. I never do it to get repayed I dont care about getting repayed.. I do things like that give to church to those who need something.. because I understand how tuff it is to not have something you need and the person who can give it to you doesnt want to give you anything at all..
The same goes for Jesus.. tho I do want a miracle .. I want it given to me by him not because I did something for someone to get payed back..
The same as when I decided to know and follow of Jesus years back. I never once did it to go to heaven.. heaven means nothing to me at all.. I live right now.. if God will give me heaven then he will give it to me.. I didnt follow Jesus cuz I knew he would give me everything but I sure did think that he would atleast try to give me whats dearest to my heart.. but noo.... nothing.. and to make it worse never experienced God.. and Im just done.. I know that my efforts mean squat to any of you or Jesus.. so I dont care about my faith.. I tried.. no matter how much you guys try to make me feel like I havent I have.. sigh.. fustrated by now.. not by any of you but by some of your comments and actions.. still thank you for your help and prayers.. because anything good given to me I will acknowledge..
 
God bless to you all because you still are good and are kind..

Uriel
 
wanting2believe said:
I dont feel Jesus, God is not enough for me.. yet I still do my same things,Church, bible, home, exercise, school
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I have the same problem brother. I was 'saved' years ago,but I never felt any different. I don't feel Christ and I don't feel God,but I know He HAS to be there. How else could this beautiful universe exist?

P.S. I don't believe any of that Big Bang klunk,and I can't take another year hearing that in school. x.x
 
lightseeker thanks lil brother, I said it many times.. life without the God Ive looked for seems like a very very very very did I say very? nasty and unappealing.. and I never experienced God I was your age when I was really really looking for God. If you are happy with how things are keep trying brother.. I wont discourage you either.. I wont be the stone you will trip on.. try to do what most people who have been and have felt God .. maybe you have better luck.. dont follow me ok. God bless you.
 
Dear Wanting 2 Believe:

Stop for a moment and hear a true story of a baby boy that was born to a Virgin this baby boy born knowing what his purpose and destiny was for his life. Yet he did not complain he held steadfast in the truth of the living word and because he spoke the truth and because he would not denounce GOD and that he was the Son of GOD-this baby boy grew into a man that was perscuted spit on beaten and then nailed to a cross for all mankind's sin. Yet he did not harbour anger, bitterness, resentment toward any of them that spit, hit, mocked, persecuted, mocked, or denounced him but instead he cried out "Father Forgive Them for they Know not what they do"
Focus on that as an example for your life, be patient, slow to anger, speak the truth, be a light, demonstrate love, kindness, and selflessness.
We all have our Crosses to bear-just as Christ did. Christ also suffered, as a child of God that does not free you from suffering, it is how you
respond to your suffering do you run toward GOD or away? During your difficult time turn it over to GOD then leave it alone keep praising him and
thanking him and wait on him, he is always on time and he will provide you with what you need not your wants. Search your heart and work on
any impurities and rid your heart of the anger bitterness frustration because that is Satan deceiving you and destracting you and robbing you of
your joy.
Stop trying to understand it just trust in GOD and release it and let God handle it and when you feel like your prayers aren't being answered know that
GOD knows what is best for you and he wants the best for you. He tells us to stand still just wait on him patience is a hard thing because most
ppl want immediate gratification but GOD is trying to purge you of impurities to get you to the next level because he has a purpose for your life.

Dear Heavenly Father:

I come to you requesting that you be a shield around wanting2believe search his heart and cleanse it of all impurities, help him to be patient and just
be still while you go to work on his life molding him like a piece of potter's clay into the man you want him to be. Guide him, strength him, release him
from the bondage of Satan who is a master manipulator and deceiver wanting to destroy and devour him. Show him that the victory has already
been one. Teach him to love himself and others even those that have transgressed against. Help him to rise up out of the pit of despair, loneliness, and hopelessness and renew in him a new spirit full of joy, peace, and happiness. He is your child and as a child he needs guidance. Even though he may
not understand his situation give him the knowledge to realize that all things are not to be understood but he has you to lean on. Lift him up give him
peace. This and all things I ask in your precious son Jesus' name and for his sake AMEN.
 
Thank you ginger1020 thank you but Im not anything close to Jesus... still thank you but Im not like you, you are better Im not and that I accept. I dont want to make anymore arguments just thank you for your kind words and prayers.
 
I know what you are going through. Believe me, I know. Two years of severe depression when all I could do was walk the floor and
cry. I couldnt sleep more than 2 hours in a 24 hour period. I ate so little that I lost about 50 pounds. I was on the brink as you are
now. If you believe what you are suffering now is unbearable, the result of killing yourself will be far worse. That won't be peace. It
will be damnation. It is better to suffer misery in this life. I pray you will get better but please understand, it wont all come at once.
You will get better but it will take a while to do it. All you can do is just get through this one day. Dont think about yesterday and
dont worry about tomorrow. Just this one day. God bless and keep you.
 

My brother is christ, I ask that you get down on your knees and pray without ceasing, the Lord is with you, do you see all the prayers that are going out to you right this moment, you have to believe that our God is with you. He does not want to lose you.

Dear Heavenly Father, I ask in the name of Jesus that you tough this mans heart/mind Lord Jesus, allow him to open his mind and see that there is a purpose for him on this earth Lord Jesus. He needs you Lord, we all need you everyday, all day. Please Lord be a comforter that you have been to so many, Lord Jesus be a shield so that the devil can not take over you child. Lord Jesus, I ask these things in your mighty name. AMen
 
I am not better than you! We have the same Father that created us both in his image just think Positive thoughts take it day by day and do me a favor
tomorrow when you wake up Thank God for waking you up and then everytime a Negative thought pops in your head say two Positives-such as I am
worthy because God created me and I am loved because God so loved me that he gave his only begotten son for me.
GOD BLESS YOU and Know that You are Wonderful.
You will get through this because Psalms 23 says: Ya though I walk THROUGH doesn't say going to stay in it but you're going to go through it
I have had my crosses to bear and at this very moment I am going through-my husband moved out and left me and the kids but I am standing still because I know no matter what destractions the devil throws my way GOD has the victory and his will will be done. This life on earth is just a
temporary place the bigger picture is eternity that is my focus. If we didn't go through some things how could we give GOD the glory; I don't know
how my situation will end but I know whatever happens I will be ok because I have A God that will never leave me, forsake me and loves me despite
myself and the same goes for you.
Anyone that is posting in these formums had to go through some things-because when we go through things he wants us to draw near him
because he wants that close personal relationship with him. Talk to him as you would talk person you can see.
Do all things to edify GOD and give him the praise. Your health praise him that your healthy many ppl aren't.
We were all like little children when we accepted Christ, I didn't get to the place I am at now in my relationship with Christ overnight, I had to go through
a lot of things to get to were I am and I still have a lot of maturing to do.
PPL have spiritual warfares they go through were Satan is battling to keep you in the dark and of the World but GOD is battling for you to spend
eternity with him. That choice is up to you because he wants us to come to him of our own free will. Surrendering to GOD's will brings PEACE because when you truly surrender you follow the right path give up that sinful nature you strive to please him to do right and all of us have sinned and come short of the glory of GOD. But he is a forgiving GOD and a GOD of second chances.

Just give him a try trust him turn over whole heart and situation to him and then just leave it alone think positive you don't need to pray the same
thing over and over he gets it the first time then thank him for allowing you to go through what you are going through and you can tell him you
don't understand it but your going to trust in him and then don't worry bout it just stand still and praise him. That is going to give you peace and
help you to grow from being a child in christ to being a saint in christ.

GOD BLESS!!
 
How could you have done what I've asked you to do? It's only been a very short amount of time. This is sowing and reaping, not the microwave.

Please take into consideration that it is sometimes very difficult to minister to people online because there are people that use multiple usernames to spit on Christ. As you are doing with your language. Sometimes Satan uses his pawns to speak his will and they file in at his command. This is what is going on right now, when people start calling the Lord of sabaoth powerless. You are spitting on the Lord and calling Him powerless. Curse and spit to your souls desire. He will still be there for you when you want to stop playing around.

Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Whether you are in allegiance to Him or not.

I have told you the truth to the best of my ability. This isn't a cake walk. It takes faith to please God.

I am being blunt with you on purpose. I wish someone would have done so with me, it would have saved me a lot of pain and time to just get down to brass tacks, so I knew what was expected of me. But, through all this, Christ is the only way out. Cling to Him because none of us are good enough to perform His will. It's only though clinging onto Him that we gain the ability to do what is required of us.

Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Concerning all of the 'worldly' things that you are surrounded by... if you did read your Bible you would know that we can't escape the world, but, we can be separated from it. This is very basic.

9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

and

2Co_6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?


These verses cover our relationships with both believers and non-believers. We can't get away from the world, but, we are not to part of it, we are not to be in relationships that overpower our faith in Christ. We are also not to be in fellowship with believers as explained above.

You can examine both your church friends and worldly friends by their fruit. We are not to judge people by the way they look, or how much money they have or don't have, but we are to judge righteous judgement; and one way that this can be done is by examining the fruit.

Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them.

Do you worship with your friends outside of church, do they lead you into the Lord's presence, do they encourage you to keep believing, do they walk like Jesus walked, or are they just like the world, but, 'saved?'

Think on these things before spewing out so much filth from your mouth. Change your attitude and be thankful for the good and the bad.

Php 4:11 ...I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
Php 4:12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
Php 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me.

I know that what I am typing is not very pleasing and people stop their ears up so they don't have to hear it.

Even so,

2Sa_22:27 With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself unsavoury.
Psa_18:26 With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward.

This is what the Lord says:

Either be in me or be in the world. Decide. If in me, be thankful and continue in it and seek my righteousness steadfastly. If the world, then get out of my church and be in the world. Don't do both Christ and the world or else I will vomit you out of my mouth.


Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Deu 30:20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.


And for those who steadfastly cling onto Christ as their justification with God:

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved) ;
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.



 
A friend gave me advice that will hopefully help me. Maybe it can help you. Pray to God to fill you with the Holy Spirit. Pray for Jesus to come in and change you,from the inside out.God will hear you and will bring you peace Romans 1:16 "I am not ashamed of the Gospel,because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes,first for the Jew,then for the Gentile."
 
ok Avidan I am now telling you to stop actually talking to me now.. ok.. I can handle most people.. but you my friend have reached my limit not because of the help but because you have actually crossed the line of my patience.... but ok I will read your letter this last time, but now I tell you to please stop ok.. if you cannot follow a simple request.. then you are the one seeking argument with me.. because I can honestly go on with this argument.. but I am asking a request to stop, because your help is not helping.. ok simple words your help is not helping.. accept that.. Never have done this to anybody in CC and Ive had people tell me bluntly but you ... NO I cant take another bashing..

I repeat, do you honestly believe that you are the first person who has shared word of knowledge of the Lord and praise to Lord? I when I was young committed my crimes, my sins and that Im guilty off. Yet when I decided to look and search for Jesus, I read the bible, read the verses you and many others have game me.

'"How could you have done what I've asked you to do? It's only been a very short amount of time. This is sowing and reaping, not the microwave." Avidan

Ok il say it again simple... I did what you told me to do, and I have done so years before... simple right do you get it? No again I HAVE DONE WHAT YOU TOLD ME TO DO BECAUSE I HAVE DONE SO BEFORE... SIMPLE RIGHT NOT GETTING IT? I HAVE DONE IT ALREADY EVEN BEFORE YOU TOLD ME THERE WAS ACTUAL PASTORS, PEOPLE THAT HAVE SERVED GOD AND WHO STILL SERVE GOD..Back then in the beginning when I was really clinging.. back then when I was searching with my heart. (Back then before I actually started feeling uncontrollable anger.. sadness always had sadness but this anger).. DO YOU GET IT AVIDAN?! Do you think Im faking, are you going to call me a liar? but if Im being honest wouldn't that reap and so something against you? OH FORGET IT.. YOU DONT GET IT..

I totally hear what your saying.. I honestly do. Because Ive had it said by people who are closer to me.. that are in Church... and tho I dont under-appreciate your effort.. it still falls short compared to those who have been in my life.. ok... so if people who I care about have done and told me this.. and guided me with the same.. and done so.. and then you tell me the same thing.. wouldn't that make sense that I have done so? or do you not comprehend yet?

"Please take into consideration that it is sometimes very difficult to minister to people online..." Avidan

Take what in consideration? Minister? Are you trying to say your ministering? Wait what? Who are you ministering? Me? Noooooo my friend... you are not ministering.. tho ministering does imply helping in the worship of God.. and such.. but still are you giving yourself some title before me.. noo my friend.. il say this you will help me but your not ministering.. because in my opinion... read key word OPINION.. for you to minister me you must be a pastor, and you are not my pastor il say that..

"because there are people that use multiple usernames to spit on Christ." Avidan

Why do you talk of others? You better not be saying false witness upon me, trying to say Im using multiple accounts... -.- you better not because that is a lie.. -.- and I dont have any reason to be doing that.. im on like 24/7 and I will even let any administrator here do whatever to keep my name clear... Im just saying Avidan... because then you are a liar... if you are.. just saying..

"..As you are doing with your language. Sometimes Satan uses his pawns to speak his will and they file in at his command. This is what is going on right now, when people start calling the Lord of sabaoth powerless. You are spitting on the Lord and calling Him powerless. Curse and spit to your souls desire. He will still be there for you when you want to stop playing around."" Avidan

Ok Avidan.. I shall say this before I let my anger the best of me.. ok.. ok..
Um... I have said many times I am a sinner.. I have committed many crimes against God and his people from his covenant (Christians) and from the world.. aka one would call them gentiles... I alone accept these crimes nobody but myself have committed my crimes.. and in shame I accept them and in shame I accept that Im not worthy and in shame I accept that I was the reason Jesus got beat up, whipped, made fun of, mistreated, and nail to the cross and died.. I am part of the weight of the cross He carried.. I accept these crimes In shame I try to stop myself to commit further crimes.. I accept I will never be enough I will never be clean..I am but flesh, evil, because thats what I am

Romans 7:23 "but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. "

Now if to you that makes me a pawn of Satan ok.. here is my other cheek go on take another blow.. dont get to tired tho.. but listen I accept that I said Jesus is not enough for me.. Me never have I said He is not enough, or that he is powerless... but never never never ever again do you offend me by saying Im spiting on Jesus you fool, you stupid stupid fool.. accusing me of dissing Jesus.. are you crazier then me? Why am I dissing on Jesus.. I have many times said this life far more meaningless without him.. are you out of your arrogant mind? I have said Im evil.. and I have said that to me.. (since Im evil) He is not enough for me.. you stupid stupid man trying to lie and put crimes that I have not committed.. spitting on Jesus is saying he is not God..
(Oh this is a sign that I dont have Christ Spirit, the Holy Spirit because Im cursing at a servant of God, coo if I have to pay for my crimes then I shall because I will not accept you telling that Im spitting on Jesus Christ, If any of the administrators is to ban me for this I shall not fight them because maybe I am crossing the line and I shall take responsibility for it) If they were to not do anything to my account then I thank them.. yet for this matter Avidan do not ever write to me.. if its not to just offer prayer then do not speak to me..

but finishing with your statement.. Im not cursing at God.. -.-.... If He is there then its ok, Playing games? your slow.. Im not playing games.. Just because Im not drastic with my actions does not mean Im playing a game, You dont just do things aimlessly.. I consider things and others around me.. Playing games....

Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Whether you are in allegiance to Him or not.

I do know and I have accepted that Jesus Christ is Lord never once said He was not.. would I kneel.. even if I didnt want to I think it would just naturally occur.. but read what I said.. even if if.. if.. if.. ok so you don't accuse me of saying that I wouldn't..

I have told you the truth to the best of my ability. This isn't a cake walk. It takes faith to please God.

I know you have told me the truth (word of God) and your truth.. and I never said it was easy but hey I did try.. faith.. hmm never could really build on that.. that I do accept faith... I for some reason never known how to go about faith.... or how people say faith works.. many times Ive said that Im like thomas.. yet I still believe in God, still believe in Jesus because thats a decision I took...

I am being blunt with you on purpose. I wish someone would have done so with me, it would have saved me a lot of pain and time to just get down to brass tacks, so I knew what was expected of me. But, through all this, Christ is the only way out. Cling to Him because none of us are good enough to perform His will. It's only though clinging onto Him that we gain the ability to do what is required of us.

Your being something else... Good Im glad that this worked for you. Yes I do accept that Christ is the only way to reach heaven.. Yes do accept that.. Yes I do know that nobody is good enough nobody was or will ever be... I did cling to Him, nothing happen.. I didnt feel anything, nothing changed, still the same.. I will say that I changed (ok now this by many will say God actually was the one who made you change, coo I will not fight that opinion, I will not deny that God has the power to do that.. I will not say ok that didnt happen, because I am unaware.. because that I do not know.. but then were would be free will, anyways I will not fight over this) , because I said that I would do my best in the ability to try to be good enough to make the cut.. since nobody will ever be at least try to change.. right ... but did something happen like to say oh I experienced God no.. how did I feel well with time this is the end result.. so I dont have to write it all down...

Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
I will not fight the word.. if its in vain then it was in vain if that was the message you tried to show me thru it.. but I still did try.. so vain then it shall be if its in the word

Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
ok example of how it should be, to visit the fatherless.. I do as close enough as I can since now in days its hard to do that.. oh but does foster care count? cuz I used to do that... but since Im an adult I cant go to that no more.. and in general this just is trying to say try to love one another and try to be with those who are afflicted and I try to be the best of my ability.. but ok.. unspottted meaning not stained from the world.. hmm ok Im stained.. but wait wouldn't me believing in Jesus Christ by itself cleanse me? but ok no I will say that Im still stain just to go on with this verse because I bet your trying to tell me that I should be part of the world right?.. got ya..

Concerning all of the 'worldly' things that you are surrounded by... if you did read your Bible you would know that we can't escape the world, but, we can be separated from it. This is very basic.
Oh I know I cannot escape the world since I live in it.. coo we agree on that.. wait.. are you trying to say that I didnt know that.. but was I the one telling you that Im but part of the world? If you did read your bible.. I did.. Oh wont proclaim or raise myself up by saying I know every verse but I have read the bible, still am reading the bible slowly yet still do and probably will keep reading it til the end.. we can be separated yes I do know that.. I try my best to do that.. oh very basis yes sir it is.


9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

Corinthians yea remember this .. man those are truly harsh word but hence you cannot fight it. In context its telling us not to be with those type of people.. but its mostly just trying to say to shun those who are in the Church or in the faith.. or like the verse says Brother or sister, who sexually immoral (its a long list.. but fornication, masturbation, adultery, sodomy, rape, bestiality, homosexuality, pornography... and so on) I have commited that sin..Ive tried to stop and I fight it yep, but I have done that.. not all of that but in context sexual imorality.. so Im shunned, greedy, I have done it, idolater, yep done it, slanderer, yes ive done that, swindler hmm I do not think I have... but just in case I will say I did... so you shouldnt even be taking to me right? Hmm I truly cant say that I have doing this 100% I did when I was younger since I was really only stuck at home and would just be at school, and be at my house and go to church yet.. nothing happen but ok.. I will say that infact right now I do not follow this.. not because Im going against it.. but because Jesus did tell me to Love my brothers.. but you must expel me since Im wicked and alot are wicked... but hey I did do this.. when I was younger and well nothing really added up to me.. but ok..

2Co_6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace.

This is meant for marriage but can also go with friendships..yea I guess its in the bible.. to not be with those who do not believe or hang around with those who dont believe.. hmm rarely do I hang around with those... but I do interact with many non believer since I the place I live has many.. but most of the time Im by myself and those who I hang around also try to be the best Christians.. yet no change.. and so I tried.. and so.. I should be alone.. coo..

These verses cover our relationships with both believers and non-believers. We can't get away from the world, but, we are not to part of it, we are not to be in relationships that overpower our faith in Christ. We are also not to be in fellowship with believers as explained above.
I guess so.. I do know alot of none believers and I dont hang around with them.. Im always at my house.. if not in school.. I dont party... I dont do anything like that.. just my house.. my family believe in Jesus Christ yet do not practice the same faith.. so I should not be with them? Oh but there is parts in the bibles were they talk about situations like this.. yet I wont look for them cuz its late and I find it stupid.. if your telling me to not be with my family but ok.. so then I failed that.. faith in Christ.. dont have faith I guess said it many times faith I do not now what that is... I do join in fellowship in believer.. some lukewarm some who are in fire.. so who I dont know.. yet I am with believers.. but you said not to be hmmm? type I guess you make mistakes too.. but still this you ask.. I have done.. and maybe I dont do it to the line anymore cuz it has not helped..

You can examine both your church friends and worldly friends by their fruit. We are not to judge people by the way they look, or how much money they have or don't have, but we are to judge righteous judgement; and one way that this can be done is by examining the fruit.

honestly Im not liking all this info and your interpretation... Its becoming a bit bizarre and again to much law.. and no grace... your message is a bit weird.. and ima have to discuss it with other people on here who have been on the faith.. cuz honestly Im not feeling to good about your interpretations.. its a bit to weird.. and like I feel like your making me go to a little cave.. I know your trying to help and coo its fine appreciated.. but still something is missing here... and I know Im not going to be ministered by you never thought it even once...
 
Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them.

yes.. what are your fruits Avidan? I clearly cannot see them? but why should I judge?
2 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?

Because I know many who really try hard even tho they are week in faith... soo

As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...

Do you worship with your friends outside of church, do they lead you into the Lord's presence, do they encourage you to keep believing, do they walk like Jesus walked, or are they just like the world, but, 'saved?'

Do you walk like Jesus walk if you can even come close? The people I hang around with, yes they worship God, they try to walk the best they can in Jesus example.. and yes they are the world since we are part of it tho we try to separate ourselves we cant completely do that.. or are you going to tell me you walk the perfect example of God. cuz then you would be too perfect.. and so were is the fruit?

Think on these things before spewing out so much filth from your mouth. Change your attitude and be thankful for the good and the bad.

LOOK LISTEN AVIDAN...YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE SHUTTING YOUR OWN MOUTH. YOU COME HERE TO HELP AND I HEARD WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.. I SAID THANK YOU... IT DOESNT WORK FOR ME.. KEEP COMPLAINING AND KEEP CONDEMNING AND KEEP SPREADING YOUR TEACHINGS THAT IN FACT ARE A BIT BIZARRE AT TIMES. YET YOU STILL COME BACK AND NOW INSULT ME.. OH HOW CHRISTIAN LIKE RIGHT.. WELL LIKE YOU I WILL SAY THIS SHUT YOUR MOUTH YOU STUPID FOOL WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? SLANDERING.. THO YOU ARE CLOSER TO GOD AND THO YOU HAVE A BIT MORE KNOWLEDGE THEN MOST AND THO YOUR IN A BETTER STATE YOU FOOL.. DOESNT NOT GIVE YOU NO RIGHT TO COME AND TELL ME TO SHUT MY MOUTH.. YOU FOOL.. YOU CAN SAY ALL YOUR TEACHINGS AND YOU CAN PROVIDE ME WITH MANY VERSES YOU WANT BUT THAT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT I FEEL WHAT I FEEL AND SINCE I FEEL THIS MAKES ME BE WHO I AM.. AND THEN YOU COME AND START BASHING LIKE THE FOOL YOU ARE.. CONDEMNING LIKE THE FOOL YOU ARE.. PRIDEFUL IN YOUR STUPID SENSE THAT OH SINCE IM HERE IN THIS BETTER PLACE THEN I KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM AND SO SINCE I WAS IN A BAD STATE TOO I CAN GO TELL SOMEONE HEY YOU NEED TO BE JUST LIKE ME AND DO EXACTLY AND FEEL THE SAME LIKE ME.. FOOL I DONT.. IM NOT YOU, IM NOT LIKE PEOPLE IN THE BIBLE.. THO I MAY HAVE SIMILAR TRAITS WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.. STUPID FOOL.. IF I SAID SO MUCH FILTH WAS BECAUSE YOU PROVOKED ME.. IF YOU WANT ME TO CHANGE MY ATTITUDE.. AT LEAST TOWARDS YOU, YOU CHANGE YOURS TOO.. Im not the same as you.. or anybody here in CC.. and tho I try.. to be thankful in the good and bad I feel.. I feel and I think differently then you.. simple but only a fool cannot comprehend this.. I have not said anything about God only you.. cuz you sincerely are .. something else man... Ive had people help me.. but none like you il say that.. be more respectful how you write the things you write.. you bash that I say so much bad thing then what are you doing writing back.. dont.. instead... cuz that shows your fruit you fool.. and its not so good either...

Php 4:11 ...I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
Php 4:12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
Php 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me.

yes it is in the word... Glory to God... yet it doesnt help me... not because he is powerless but because it doesnt help me... simple get it good..

I know that what I am typing is not very pleasing and people stop their ears up so they don't have to hear it.

WELL IF PEOPLE DONT LISTEN DONT YOU THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE A BIT OF PROBLEM IN HOW YOU WRITE THINGS? HOW YOU DIRECT YOURSELF.. TRYING TO TELL ME TO CHANGE MY ATTITUDE YOU SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR OWN ADVICE...

SO I END THIS LETTER CUZ THE REST OF THE VERSES SHOW JUST PRAISE TO GOD AND YES PRAISE TO GOD IT IS...

YET IL TELL YOU THIS.. AVIDAN.. IF YOUR SAVED AWESOME... Glad to hear that... still doesnt mean what you say saves me... Your way of doing things dont work for me... and honestly if your going to bash on me again.. just because Im bashing you back... key word here back... then do not write again.. see your the only one Ive actually bashed back ... everyone else I have actually never said anything wrong because they have not disrespected me or condemn me and accept the fact that maybe there is something they do not comprehend thats happening.. learn from them.. just a bit...

Thanks again and God bless... Just to show you that I do read through what you say... and understand what you say.. yet Im telling you it doesnt work for me... its not enough for me.. get it.. me...

Uriel..
 
simple words avidan... and request... just stop.. I dont want you writing to me...
 
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