Prayer for Health

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Angela53510

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I have had some really bad flares lately. Last night, the scale hit 10/10 in my left hand with tendon flares. I have tendons slipping loose everywhere.

This evening, I am starting to get flares in big joints - knees and elbows, and my shoulders are a mess.

I am very concerned, is this looks like it might be a med failure. I don't really have any other meds to fall back on. I've used them all. This is very scary, as the pain is unbearable!

Please pray this will pass! And that it was only bad weather, or eating sugar, or gluten or whatever nonsense reasons people seem to think cause inflammation.

Thanks!
 
Sorry, I forgot to mention for those people who do not know me, I have Rheumatoid Arthritis. The systemic autoimmune disease, not the wear and tear, old age syndrome - osteoarthritis. RA is a disease that not only attacks joints, but organs, including the heart, brain, lungs, kidneys and skin!

Thanks again!

PS I am obviously not in a good mood, so please forgive my snarkiness!
 
I will pray for you and hope God heals you. And if not physically then heals you mentally. Being able to find joy and strength to handle what the aging mortal body falls into.

Sometimes our mental health can be the difference in healing or not.

Sorta like a amputee can pray to be healed but they ultimately will find freedom from the healing of the mind that sets them free from living in regret but instead lives in the joy of Christ. The pain may not go away but Jesus's love and the great commission never goes away either.

Making us feel called to a higher calling that should be overwhelming in us until we no longer breath. Do what you can from a human standpoint. Diet, ice and heat therapy, meds, exercise, natural remedies etc. And then in faith trust God he will work in those or lead you to something better.
 
I just said a prayer for you sis Angela...



God bless you!
 
Sorry, I forgot to mention for those people who do not know me, I have Rheumatoid Arthritis. The systemic autoimmune disease, not the wear and tear, old age syndrome - osteoarthritis. RA is a disease that not only attacks joints, but organs, including the heart, brain, lungs, kidneys and skin!

Thanks again!

PS I am obviously not in a good mood, so please forgive my snarkiness!

Oh Angela, I'm so sorry you're going through this. :( My heart grieves with you as you endure this life-long pain. A close friend suffers with this as well.

Dear Heavenly Father, we all bring Angela before you and ask you for a touch of your grace upon Angela's body that would put a halt to the pain she's experiencing.

Pain is so hard to deal with Lord in our minds and hearts as we learn to live with all the limitations that disease and illnesses bring.

Please help her to realize that you are with her even more when she experiences such suffering. May she sense the depth of your love, your care and concern for her. Please touch her with the power of your overwhelming love that she's in need of right now.

And Lord, please also give Angela wisdom if something is causing the inflammation through food, chemicals or too much activity.

This ugly disease is something only you can heal Lord. And we so plead for mercy Lord. In your abundant mercy please grant Angela a complete healing. In Jesus' name we pray dear Father. Amen!
 
I have Rheumatoid Arthritis

If you believe, say, and act as if this is true... nobody's prayers can do much for you because nobody can force you to let go of this disease.

Jesus took rheumatoid arthritis upon His Body so you would not have to have it... but just like Salvation, it does not come on you automatically. One must believe God's promises, act on them, and then expect what God promise to grow up and prevail.
 
If you believe, say, and act as if this is true... nobody's prayers can do much for you because nobody can force you to let go of this disease.

Jesus took rheumatoid arthritis upon His Body so you would not have to have it... but just like Salvation, it does not come on you automatically. One must believe God's promises, act on them, and then expect what God promise to grow up and prevail.


No healing is not in the Atonement. Not Scriptural! God does heal when it is his will, but so far, after 20 years he has not revealed this to be his will for me!

Word Faith is the most terrible heresy of our century! See some of my posts in the BDF for the Scriptural and exegetical backing for what I am saying!

I really don't need this garbage right now! Just pray for a solution, don't feed me heretical theology!
 
If you believe, say, and act as if this is true... nobody's prayers can do much for you because nobody can force you to let go of this disease.

Jesus took rheumatoid arthritis upon His Body so you would not have to have it... but just like Salvation, it does not come on you automatically. One must believe God's promises, act on them, and then expect what God promise to grow up and prevail.

You say let go of this disease like its a bad habit to drop and be done with it. God heals who he wants and God allows what he wants to allow. God has taken many of my pains away but also allowed many to stay.

The ones that stayed has made me even further rely on God due to my weaknesses. Similar to how Paul prayed three times to have his pain taken away but God told him no it shall remain to keep Paul from becoming prideful.

My pain has made me more humble and caring.

God answers prayers that fits into his plan.
 
Paul prayed three times to have his pain taken away but God told him no it shall remain

Did you read where Paul said later that the Lord had delivered him out of ALL his afflictions?

Yeah, lots of wrong, unscriptural teachings about God wanting us to keep sickness... so, I don't need to speak to you anymore about how to get out of the trap satan has set for you. It sounds like your mind is made up and you are not interested in hearing what God's Word says on how to receive healing.

All things are possible to those that believe (Mark 9:23)

If you believe sometimes God wants us to keep sickness... how do you know this is not one of those times?

And, if it is one of those times where it's His will for you to keep this disease, isn't it being out of the will of God to ask others to pray for you to receive relief from this?
 
No healing is not in the Atonement. Not Scriptural! God does heal when it is his will, but so far, after 20 years he has not revealed this to be his will for me!

Word Faith is the most terrible heresy of our century! See some of my posts in the BDF for the Scriptural and exegetical backing for what I am saying!

I really don't need this garbage right now! Just pray for a solution, don't feed me heretical theology!

Wow, you want prayer but deny healing. If you are searching for a man made remedy then why not just go see the doctor? I'm sorry if this sounds mean but I just don't understand why someone would come on here and ask for prayer but only prayer for a temporary solution. I enjoy most of your posts Angela but I believe you are completely wrong on this topic.

Even though you don't want it I will pray for complete healing for you. But then again Jesus did say we need faith and belief and I believe you are lacking both in this area of your life. God Bless
 
I have had some really bad flares lately. Last night, the scale hit 10/10 in my left hand with tendon flares. I have tendons slipping loose everywhere.

This evening, I am starting to get flares in big joints - knees and elbows, and my shoulders are a mess.

I am very concerned, is this looks like it might be a med failure. I don't really have any other meds to fall back on. I've used them all. This is very scary, as the pain is unbearable!

Please pray this will pass! And that it was only bad weather, or eating sugar, or gluten or whatever nonsense reasons people seem to think cause inflammation.

Thanks!

Prayers for you Angela. :)
 
No healing is not in the Atonement. Not Scriptural! God does heal when it is his will, but so far, after 20 years he has not revealed this to be his will for me!

Word Faith is the most terrible heresy of our century! See some of my posts in the BDF for the Scriptural and exegetical backing for what I am saying!

I really don't need this garbage right now! Just pray for a solution, don't feed me heretical theology!

I see you're still feisty and still sound in doctrine! Amen!
 
Lord we pray for Angela53510, let you touch and heal her, and bless with a good health. Lord please bless her, we agree, and pray together for healing, please heal her, in Jesus loving name, Amen!
 
No healing is not in the Atonement. Not Scriptural! God does heal when it is his will, but so far, after 20 years he has not revealed this to be his will for me!

Word Faith is the most terrible heresy of our century! See some of my posts in the BDF for the Scriptural and exegetical backing for what I am saying!

I really don't need this garbage right now! Just pray for a solution, don't feed me heretical theology!

Healing IS actually part of the atonement and IS actually scriptural... it has nothing to do with word faith or television preachers (who play like you can be healed only if you support their ministry), or christian science, etc, etc.

But if you do not believe what God promises concerning health and healing, then don't bother praying for something you do not believe is God's will? Why???

If you are one of those that believe God teaches people thru sickness (rather then thru the Holy Spirit and the written Word)... how do you know it's not god's will that you are to be sick (I left god in small letters on purpose because the Living God is merciful and desires to provide all that we need and be our Sole source of Supply for all we need).

Here's what God's Word says about healing... take it or leave it... it's GOD's Word!!!

Romans 8:11
But IF the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you (allowed to live in us), He that raised up Jesus Christ from the dead shall also quicken (energize, make alive) your mortal body by His Spirit that lives in you. (see 2 Corinthians 3:17 – where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty, freedom!)

1 Peter 2:24
Jesus carried our sins in his own body on the cross, so that we, being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed.

Matthew 8:17

That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

Isaiah 53:4, 5
Jesus has carried our grief (pain, anxiety, calamity, disease, sickness), and carried our sorrows (anguish, affliction, feelings of pain, sadness and sorrow): yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted....but He was wounded (to wound, to break, be slain or killed) for our transgressions, He was bruised (crush, destroy, oppress, to collapse) for our iniquities: the punishment (violence, rebuke) of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. (He took our wounds, so we could take his wholeness & health in every area of life)

Proverbs 4:20-23
Attend to My words; incline your ear unto My sayings....let them not depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart....for they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh....keep your heart with all diligence; for out of it flow the forces of life.

James 5:15
The prayer of faith shall save the sick (from being sick!)

Exodus 15:26

If you will diligently listen to the voice of the LORD your God, and will do that which is right in His sight, and will give ear to His commandments, and keep all His statutes, I will not put any diseases upon you, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that heals you.

Exodus 23:24-26

You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do their works: but you shall utterly overthrow them, and destroy their images.
And you shall serve Adonai your God, and He shall bless your food and drink; and I will take sickness away from the midst of you.
There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: and you will live out the full span of your lives.

There's plenty more from God's Word on this subject...
 
Healing IS actually part of the atonement and IS actually scriptural... it has nothing to do with word faith or television preachers (who play like you can be healed only if you support their ministry), or christian science, etc, etc.

But if you do not believe what God promises concerning health and healing, then don't bother praying for something you do not believe is God's will? Why???

If you are one of those that believe God teaches people thru sickness (rather then thru the Holy Spirit and the written Word)... how do you know it's not god's will that you are to be sick (I left god in small letters on purpose because the Living God is merciful and desires to provide all that we need and be our Sole source of Supply for all we need).

Here's what God's Word says about healing... take it or leave it... it's GOD's Word!!!

Romans 8:11
But IF the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you (allowed to live in us), He that raised up Jesus Christ from the dead shall also quicken (energize, make alive) your mortal body by His Spirit that lives in you. (see 2 Corinthians 3:17 – where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty, freedom!)

1 Peter 2:24
Jesus carried our sins in his own body on the cross, so that we, being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed.

Matthew 8:17

That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

Isaiah 53:4, 5
Jesus has carried our grief (pain, anxiety, calamity, disease, sickness), and carried our sorrows (anguish, affliction, feelings of pain, sadness and sorrow): yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted....but He was wounded (to wound, to break, be slain or killed) for our transgressions, He was bruised (crush, destroy, oppress, to collapse) for our iniquities: the punishment (violence, rebuke) of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. (He took our wounds, so we could take his wholeness & health in every area of life)

Proverbs 4:20-23
Attend to My words; incline your ear unto My sayings....let them not depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart....for they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh....keep your heart with all diligence; for out of it flow the forces of life.

James 5:15
The prayer of faith shall save the sick (from being sick!)

Exodus 15:26

If you will diligently listen to the voice of the LORD your God, and will do that which is right in His sight, and will give ear to His commandments, and keep all His statutes, I will not put any diseases upon you, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that heals you.

Exodus 23:24-26

You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do their works: but you shall utterly overthrow them, and destroy their images.
And you shall serve Adonai your God, and He shall bless your food and drink; and I will take sickness away from the midst of you.
There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: and you will live out the full span of your lives.

There's plenty more from God's Word on this subject...


First I do believe in healing! but it is NOT covered in the atonement. If you knew anything about heremeneutics, and the original languages you would see how untenable your propositions are. Instead of using these ridiculous paraphrases, which do not actually reflect either the intent or words in the original languages. I will post a link later on to a full post I did on this. Not that you will believe something that is against what you have been brainswashed into believing!

I ask for prayer, because many times God has touched my body! Since I posted this, one shoulder popped back into place. The pain has diminished tremendously, for which I praise God. I've been suffering for weeks.

Now, I just need the other shoulder to pop back into place, so I can use that arm again. My knees were in agony last night, this morning they are much improved! Praise the Lord for that!

The left hand tendon flares have also subsided, which means I will hopefully be able to play flute in our worship team tomorrow morning at church. Praise the Lord for that answer to prayer!

So, it has been so fruitful to post here, and to God at work in my life.

As for this nonsense about claiming healing, I went through this 18 years ago, when I first got sick. I was put under terrrible condemnation by some Word Faith friends because I wasn't healed. I was told I didn't have enough faith, I was being demon possessed and to rebuke all claims that I was sick. At this point I was misdiagnosed, and didn't even have any meds to help me through this terrible disease. And all I got was condemnation instead of support in my suffering. It drove me away from God. I felt guilty because I had not been healed (and these people prayed for me, laying on of hands etc!) like I had failed God. So I was physically sick, and I became spiritually sick. What a dreadful theology, that condemns and kicks people when they are already down. And so little evidence to back it up, let alone a proper exegesis of the texts!

So I spent two years with my face turned to the wall, like Hezekiah! I stopped reading my bible for the first time since I was saved 25 years earlier. I stopped going to church, I felt like an outcast. But God never left me. He encouraged me to read the Psalms. I finally picked up my Bible and read 5 Psalms a day, and God ministered to me in an incredible way. He showed me that in this world, after the Fall, we live in a broken and hurting world. He called me to a ministry to the broken and hurting. He gave me a ministry reconciling people who others have judged and condemned, because of a heinous and warped theology, which blames the victim for sickness, rather than the state of the world, until Jesus returns.

I went to seminary and became a chaplain in long term care, which I loved. But God pulled me back again from that ministry, and he is leading me into other areas of ministry, including rebuking the lies of the Word Faith movement.

As for the two friends who judged and condemned me for not being healed. One got ordained as a minister with Kenneth Copeland. She started a Word Faith Church, brought many people to the Lord. Then she got breast cancer, and decided to forgo chemo, because she claimed God had healed her. Her whole Word Faith church claimed she was healed, as she got sicker and sicker. She died about 10 months later, when the cancer metastized to her brain, and drove her insane. THAT is the result of the Word Faith heresy! Her church, of course, fell apart! If the preacher could not be healed, was there any validity in the claims of the Word Faith movement? No!

The other friend, an elderly man, had a friend who was not Word Faith drive him to the doctor, when he almost died from an enlarged prostate. They operated, and he is alive and serving God at age 86 today. His attitude changed quite a bit, too!

So please drop this garbage on this terrible heresy. This is my thread! People have graciously offered to pray for me, and those prayers are being answered in God's way, not in some narrow heretical doctrinal way.

Thanks so much for all who prayed, I am feeling so much better today. Continue to pray that the right shoulder will pop back in before I have to go see a physiotherapist. And that the meds will get back to working well, like they were!

Praise God no matter what happens, for he is good!
 
Did you read where Paul said later that the Lord had delivered him out of ALL his afflictions?

2 Timothy 3:10-12
Now you followed my teaching, conduct, purpose, faith, patience, love, perseverance, persecutions, and sufferings, such as happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium and at Lystra; what persecutions I endured, and out of them all the Lord rescued me! Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.

The afflictions Paul spoke of were the persecutions he endured in Antioch, Iconic and Lystra. God delivered him from those who persecuted him.

It's always good to look at context so we know what God is saying instead of just pulling a verse out to make it say what we want or what we think it means.

 
I agree Angela!

I was treated very similarly with the WOF heresy. I was hassled for not speaking in tongues. My fault. I was hassled for not being healed. My fault again. I was prayed over anointed with oil many times. My fault every time I wasn't healed.

If healing is part of the atonement, none of us would be sick; every believer would be healed right away.

I was even given a list of reasons why I wasn't healed. I went through them all to make sure I wasn't guilty of any of those things that keeps one from being healed. Still no healing. God's grace sees me through. Abundantly!

For those who are condemning Angela for not being healed, you may as well stab her in the back while you're at it.
 
remember when Prayer Requests wasn't the BDF? :rolleyes:

praying for you, my sister. ♥
 
remember when Prayer Requests wasn't the BDF? :rolleyes:

praying for you, my sister. ♥


My thoughts exactly! And many thanks for the prayers!

It irks me to know end that these Word Faith devotees skulk around the Prayer Forum, heaping condemnation on people with their heretic beliefs! I've tried to ignore them in the past, but the pain was a bit too high to take it lying down this time!

LOL

And I am feeling so much better today. Just the left shoulder needs to go back into place and stay there. And the right knee, too! Although I can mostly force that to happen, just haven't figured out how to do it with the shoulder, yet! Flares are pretty much gone, too! Praise the Lord!