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Blain

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While I agree some of the discussions are fruitless, most I find helpful as it makes me think deeper about why I believe what I believe.
That is the correct way to do it. It isn't that debates are always fruitless but if nothing is gained or learned from them then it is just fruitless arguing good job buddy keep it up
 
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I didn't sleep well so I am not quite there roday what do mean about bridges?
The bridges buddy.

Where can I start.

The lord gives bridges to all people buddy,

Ye know the footsteps in the sand,

Everyone deserves a chance brother 😊

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Blain

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The bridges buddy.

Where can I start.

The lord gives bridges to all people buddy,

Ye know the footsteps in the sand,

Everyone deserves a chance brother 😊

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Yes everyone deserves a chsnce that is true I always loved the footprints in fact I thought of that when I knew I was about to go through long horrible storm I went through as you know how bad it was and knowing it was going to be the worst I have ever been in I said to Jesus I am going to need you to carry me
 
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Yes everyone deserves a chsnce that is true I always loved the footprints in fact I thought of that when I knew I was about to go through long horrible storm I went through as you know how bad it was and knowing it was going to be the worst I have ever been in I said to Jesus I am going to need you to carry me
I know the lord has carried you 😊

But what I'm saying is did the lord carry Adam and eve 😊

He said if ye we eat from the tree ye will surely die


He never said if ye eat from the tree ye will deserve to die.
 

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It isn't that debates are always fruitless
Precious friend, is this not God's 3-Step Plan to prevent the "endless / fruitless
debates / arguments"?:

1) "...plant a seed..."

2) "...water the seed..."

3) "...God Gives the increase!" (1 Corinthians 3:6 AV)

If God Gives "no increase", then obey Him, as per Romans 16:17 AV:

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause​
divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which​
ye have learned; and avoid them."​
The End of ALL "endless / fruitless" debates and arguments, eh?

Amen.
 
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Precious friend, is this not God's 3-Step Plan to prevent the "endless / fruitless
debates / arguments?:

1) "...plant a seed..."

2) "...water the seed..."

3) "...God Gives the increase!" (1 Corinthians 3:6 AV)

If God Gives "no increase", then obey Him, as per Romans 16:17 AV:

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause​
divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which​
ye have learned; and avoid them."​
The End of ALL "endless / fruitless" debates and arguments, eh?

Amen.
you don't need to tell blain how to plant a seed 😊

That's something he's very good at through the lord guiding him
 
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Precious friend, is this not God's 3-Step Plan to prevent the "endless / fruitless
debates / arguments"?:

1) "...plant a seed..."

2) "...water the seed..."

3) "...God Gives the increase!" (1 Corinthians 3:6 AV)

If God Gives "no increase", then obey Him, as per Romans 16:17 AV:

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause​
divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which​
ye have learned; and avoid them."​
The End of ALL "endless / fruitless" debates and arguments, eh?

Amen.
Don't listen to him @Blain


Listen to your heart and keep planting the seed.

The lord marks people not us

Our Job is to guide

He obviously has his own grace which is not yours buddy 😊
 
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Precious friend, is this not God's 3-Step Plan to prevent the "endless / fruitless
debates / arguments"?:

1) "...plant a seed..."

2) "...water the seed..."

3) "...God Gives the increase!" (1 Corinthians 3:6 AV)

If God Gives "no increase", then obey Him, as per Romans 16:17 AV:

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause​
divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which​
ye have learned; and avoid them."​
The End of ALL "endless / fruitless" debates and arguments, eh?

Amen.
God told us in the garden of eden nobody can live without him.

Everyone deserves a chance
😊😊😊😊😊😊☕☕☕☕☕☕☕
 

sawdust

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The amount of none willing to answer around here is outstanding.

How on earth can we have a discussion if a person can not even answer a simple well mannered well gestured question, that even my child can answer with a warm glow on her cheeks.

They did answer, you marked it incorrect. The reason we can't have a discussion is because you have spent the last 4 pages playing childish guessing games and wasting everyone's time.

If you have truth to share, spit it out.
 
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They did answer, you marked it incorrect. The reason we can't have a discussion is because you have spent the last 4 pages playing childish guessing games and wasting everyone's time.

If you have truth to share, spit it out.
I don't spit truth out. But thanks for your repulsive offer
 

Blain

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Precious friend, is this not God's 3-Step Plan to prevent the "endless / fruitless
debates / arguments"?:

1) "...plant a seed..."

2) "...water the seed..."

3) "...God Gives the increase!" (1 Corinthians 3:6 AV)

If God Gives "no increase", then obey Him, as per Romans 16:17 AV:

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause​
divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which​
ye have learned; and avoid them."​
The End of ALL "endless / fruitless" debates and arguments, eh?

Amen.
Yes we are to plant the seeds but it is how you do it that makes the difference. I am not against debates but there is a difference between a Godly debate and an arguing for the sake of arguing not all do this but many do and only do so to prove who is right not to learn and grow not to plant the seeds but to prove who is right and it never is settled most of the time

The name calling the mocking the abuse of using his sacred word out of context or cherry picking even usisng it against each other like a weapon

This is why my heart aches and the thing is many do not even realize what they are doing or it affects all who read every word spoken this site is divided not united we were called to make deciples we were told in his word plain as how to treat one another if we really take his word as holy as sacred we would remember how Jesus said how we call him Lord Lord and said how if we call him Lord why do we not do what he says
 

Blain

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I don't spit truth out. But thanks for your repulsive offer
My friend we will never bring each other together as one body if we respond like this we cannot make snarky remarks I myself have seen my words in that regard and understood I had to learn peace respond in love and pateince if we talk the talk we need to walk the walk.
 
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My friend we will never bring each other together as one body if we respond like this we cannot make snarky remarks I myself have seen my words in that regard and understood I had to learn peace respond in love and pateince if we talk the talk we need to walk the walk.
My friend he has rejected every truth i have showed him, and I was telling him I don't spit truth out.

He asked me to spit truth out.

Friend I have shared the truth and asked people to a bit of soul searching for 4 pages, and none are willing.

I did the same thing to all of them before this and it took a stranger to tell them what was clearly written.


20
pages ago.


Ive even pointed them all to the exact chapter and none are willing to say what is clearly written or even make a suggestion.

Friend in over hundreds of times I've told them what I know, and they've chucked it back at me.

Now I'm asking them to search what I know with hundreds of gestures in patience and kindness and tolerance and there still chucking it back at me.

Let me ask you a question buddy, do you ask people to spit the truth out.
 
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Another post that offers nothing. Try listening to your friend @Blain
I dont need you to tell me how to be friends with blain, our friendship is perfectly fine thanks.

Did you think before you said spit the truth.

Who made you the judge of me.

I've pointed you to exact verse I haven't hidden anything.

I'm waiting for one of you to give the suggestion for yourself before you reject it.

Now if you can be bothered to, go and read the passage and come back and say everything what Adam and eve did from eating of the tree to being punished by God.

Is it so difficult for you to say and list all the things they did in just one page of scripture.

Or do you need to get all argumentive
 

Dino246

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your suggesting that not me

I'm asking a question at this stage.

Do you wish to answer.

If so don't if so do.

What your suggesting is not the question..

So once again your seeing your own object of the verb I posted.
Meaningless blather.
 

sawdust

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I dont need you to tell me how to be friends with blain, our friendship is perfectly fine thanks.

Did you think before you said spit the truth.

Who made you the judge of me.

I've pointed you to exact verse I haven't hidden anything.

I'm waiting for one of you to give the suggestion for yourself before you reject it.

Now if you can be bothered to, go and read the passage and come back and say everything what Adam and eve did from eating of the tree to being punished by God.

Is it so difficult for you to say and list all the things they did in just one page of scripture.

Or do you need to get all argumentive
And yet another post that offers nothing but condemnation and assumptions.
 

Dino246

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there was something Adams and eve did, what is it, 🤔

Something they did that was deserving of something from God


It's there if ye seek and read and look at every thing they did after gaining knowledge of Good and evil untill the lord served his punishment to them.

What was it that they did.
I have no need to satisfy your thirst for control.
 
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And yet another post that offers nothing but condemnation and assumptions.
and yet another request rejected.


Tell me would the lord be happy with you not willing to search scripture and participate,

Can you not read one page and list what Adam and eve did.