sigh
Roger and I are old sparring buddies on this subject so we pretty much don't bother, but I will speak up here
the above is your personal interpretation Roger and your note on latter rain and former rain does not make sense. you are trying to force some understanding that is not in scripture
you consistently state, Roger, that the event that occurred on the day of Pentecost...the promise of the Holy Spirit as Jesus PROPHESIED ... descending upon all gathered in the upper room as recorded in the book of Acts, is not for believers now and was not for Gentiles then
no one is misappropriating Pentecost for their appetite for the mystical
we believe in God who has never been seen, but we believe that Jesus represented Him with life on earth. Jesus said if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father.
your argument that Gentiles have no expectation to receive the Holy Spirit as per Jesus prophetic promise and John the Baptist's prophecy...saying Jesus would baptize with fire...because it happened on a Jewish Feast Day, is totally illogical and a herring of such red hue, that you have created a new color and that is quite an accomplishment since red is a primary color
so you seem to be saying, that the Holy Spirit does not cross the line between Jews and Gentiles yet reading farther in Acts we see this is absolutely not so and considering that Paul was called by Jesus to BE the apostle to the Gentiles and wrote much about the infilling of the Holy Spirit APART from salvation, TO Gentiles, we accept what Scripture states...we do not twist it, or say things it does not say in order to evidence truth of our PERSONAL CONVICTIONS
I'm going to leave it at that because I have read every post you could make regarding your PERSONAL CONVICTIONS and desire, for whatever reason, to make this a hill for everyone to die on
you are wrong; you could not be more wrong and you should stop telling OTHER BELIEVERS that you consider them delusional or worse...demonic...as you have done in times past
you have actually stated that you believe if someone is speaking in tongues, it is an evil spirit...I would suggest to you that perhaps you are motivated to DENY the Holy Spirit and scripture by such a spirit yourself
see how that goes? you have one belief...many have another
you are not wiser or better than those who believe differently even if you think so
again, I have no expectation you would say otherwise than you have but when you insult one believer you insult all of us
it's enough.