PURGATORY DOES NOT EXIST - IT IS A FALSE TEACHING BY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH

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ThomistColin said:
How does a spirit feel torment in Hell?
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Spirit feel torment in Hell but not cleanse it sin.

Let say sin of adultery. Does this after purgatory people repent from adultery?

When people go to purgatory, I believe she or he doesn't genital organ anymore, he or she not able to commit adultery without genital organ.
 
So if Hell is the true place of eternal torment how is it that Hell is cast into the Lake of Fire? Sounds to me like Hell really isn't, the Lake of Fire is that eternal place of torment.
 
Jackson123 said:
Spirit feel torment in Hell but not cleanse it sin.

Let say sin of adultery. Does this after purgatory people repent from adultery?

When people go to purgatory, I believe she or he doesn't genital organ anymore, he or she not able to commit adultery without genital organ.
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Again, only the saved go througn purgatory.
 
ThomistColin said:
Have you ever wondered if the purging fire was Christ's love? That's what many believe purgatory is, including Tolkien and Mother Angelica.
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Brother Thomist,

I am not consider what Tolkien or Mother Angelica believe as my standard.

What Jesus teach in the bible is my standard.
 
ThomistColin said:
Have you ever wondered if the purging fire was Christ's love? That's what many believe purgatory is, including Tolkien and Mother Angelica.
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So like there's not only evidence for purgatory in Tobit and 2 Maccabees,
but also in LOTR? Then it HAS to be true! :rolleyes:


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TruthFromFrank said:
Without prejudice
Nowhere in the Bible will you find any texts regarding Purgatory. The Roman Catholic Church teaches this because they believe that the soul or spirit leaves the body when it dies and then floats around until Jesus comes again. It is all a myth and a false teaching. All those who seek the Truth, pray to God, and not the pope, and search your Bible for the answer.
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That's not what purgatory is
 
didymos said:
According to your catholic buddy it's in Tobit and 2 Maccabees, but I wouldn't know, I don't read apocrypha.
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The word itself is a derivative of purge. The concept is supported by the bible used at the time of Christ. The apocrypha is what people call the books removed from bibles during the protestant reformation for supporting purgatory.
 
nathan3 said:
Well, I believe what is written. What we can read there, that there is a gulf in heaven. On one side, are those that are with God, and the other are those that are not with God.

So there is a holding place. And it takes a study into the Bible and the Greek and Hebrew to be sure.

It should not be about this church or that church. But what is Written ... Don't allow personal opinions and people, get in the way, of what is actually written.
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actually purgatory is a twist in the king james Bible
done on purpose by king james

, King James VI and I convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as preached by the Puritans,a faction within the Church of England.


James gave the translators instructions intended to guarantee that the new version would conform to the ecclesiologyand reflect the episcopal structure of the Church of England and its belief in an ordained clergy.The translation was done by 47 scholars, all of whom were members of the Church of England


in other words he WATERED IT DOWN to reflect more thier teachings on ever burnig hell, once c=saved always savedm and predestination that the church had difficulty supporting against the puritans!

they chose many owrds to embelish greek mythology


where it says their smoke rises up FORVER AND EVER!

that is a king james add on

loking it up it means

they SMOKE until they are all burned up.

same word is used in SODOM AND GOMORRHA story, and they arent smoking today either.
 
king james is our best versionbut the word choices from greek to english are messed up sometimesjust look up the greek words and you have a perfect Word of Godthanks a lot, king jamesnow we have once saved always saved groups out there who cant study.
 
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king james is our best version

but the word choices from greek to english are messed up sometimes

just look up the greek words and you have a perfect Word of God

thanks a lot, king james
now we have once saved always saved groups out there who don't study.

king james is our best version

but the word choices from greek to english are messed up sometimes

just look up the greek words and you have a perfect Word of God

thanks a lot, king james
now we have once saved always saved groups out there who cant study.

But

the PURITANS BibleThe geneva Bible is better version before the king changed it to support false doctrines

the church of england and the puritans had a disagreement and puritans were KILLED for going against predestination and once saved always saved, and the church of england couldnt argue with them so king james told his scholars to make a Bible that supports more predestination and once saved always saved so
voila!
king james Bible

a few tweaks here and there and they now can defend it

as one can see from all the popular supporters of the false church of england doctrines.

the PURITANS were right

and they came to AMERICA to start GODS COUNTRY

and the rest is history

except
amazingly
now the majority are teaching again once saved always saved and predestination!
looks like america got corrupted, and will follow englands footseteps aand
and
and
persecute the PURITANS AGAIN IN AMERICA! for speaking out against once saved always saved!

isnt it amazing?

people like the easy way, dont they?
 
if you really really study
you will find out all the slight changes the king james scholars did ON PURPOSE to support doctrines that do not exist

you have to study deep

the key is the parables

they couldnt change the parables

lazarus was ASLEEP says Jesus
thos who say LORD LORD but dont do the law will be lost
you have to sell everything to be a disciple

and you have to KNEEL DOWN! to worship

o the church of england HATED TO KNEEL DOWN they twisted that all out of the Bible with a word that doesnt mean ANYTHING AT ALL

BLESS

to bless MEANS to kneel down

anyway

king james allows the church of elnglands doctrines to survive

but

if you use other translations such as ontemporary english and ones who really try and make the MEANINGS CLEAR you will find and expose the few verses


so

king james is great bible

but on these topics

1. ever burning hell
2. imortality of the soul (false)
3, once saved always save
4. predestination to heaven
5. WORSHIPPING GOD on dunday (they removed dozens of SABBATH verses and made them blase.

they basically shored up their religion and admitted it

king james say
now we have a bible that supports our beliefs!

wow

watch it

loo them up in concordance and you wont be tricked.

the puritans knew that.
 
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