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Don't take this wrong, but the questions you are asking are not good questions. Especially in reading the prophets, it is vital that the Spirit lead, guide, teach, show what is being said. The message in the prophets is often hidden, because the enemy would act different if he knew what was truly said. Paul wrote that if the powers knew what would happen from Jesus being crucified, they would never have done it, because it meant their defeat.
What I am saying is that ways of reading or interpreting the bible are ways of missing what God is saying to you. When you read the scriptures, just let the Spirit lead you from your heart, you will know that it is Him. If you don't want to do that, that is okay too. It is how I read the bible, and how I have read the bible for over 15 years now. I read without trying to understand something out of it, but rather to let God speak to me from His word.
You choose.
What I am saying is that ways of reading or interpreting the bible are ways of missing what God is saying to you. When you read the scriptures, just let the Spirit lead you from your heart, you will know that it is Him. If you don't want to do that, that is okay too. It is how I read the bible, and how I have read the bible for over 15 years now. I read without trying to understand something out of it, but rather to let God speak to me from His word.
You choose.
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Not good questions? Huh? Please elaborate on that one, because questions are neither good nor bad, unless the question itself contains a fallacy, which I'm pretty sure mine don't...
And about the listening from your heart thing... First, isn't the heart deceitful? Like I said, my voice or God's voice? Also, when prophets speak, they do speak a little cryptically, but who's to say that they have double or triple meanings that continue applying to everyone? For example, some prophecies that applied to David or something may also have applied to Jesus. Who's to say that it isn't gonna refer to someone else, too? I say you read it clear and don't try to force a bunch of stuff into it, and in listening with you're heart, that's the kind of thing you tend to do, even if you don't mean to ~_o
And about the listening from your heart thing... First, isn't the heart deceitful? Like I said, my voice or God's voice? Also, when prophets speak, they do speak a little cryptically, but who's to say that they have double or triple meanings that continue applying to everyone? For example, some prophecies that applied to David or something may also have applied to Jesus. Who's to say that it isn't gonna refer to someone else, too? I say you read it clear and don't try to force a bunch of stuff into it, and in listening with you're heart, that's the kind of thing you tend to do, even if you don't mean to ~_o
God's plan for you is exactly what and where you are. If it wasn't then God may as well toss his plans out the window because they ain't worth nothing.*
*I'm not a Calvinist.
If your heart is soft and you have responded to God, He will take you where you need to go. If your heart is hard and has rejected God, He will take you where you need to go.
Quest
*I'm not a Calvinist.
If your heart is soft and you have responded to God, He will take you where you need to go. If your heart is hard and has rejected God, He will take you where you need to go.
Quest
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Actually, if you study prophecy, then Jeremiah 29:10-23 is a prophecy in itself for all generations - not just Israel. I know very little of end-times prophecy or how they are able to establish it (I think it has to do with interpreting numbers in the original languages) but those who study it are able to link this passage with other passages in the Bible with (so they claim) correct consistency. If what they've done is right, then viewed this way, Jeremiah 29:11 applies to everyone including Israel and at the same time, maintains consistency without contradicting the rest of the Bible.
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