QUESTION! (about Christmas and Easter)

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Then what you are challenging is not the day in and of itself but the "practices" that compliment the day. Christmas trees, Santa, Easter bunny, etc. Correct?
Matthew 5:17, 1 John 2:3-6, Romans 7:12, Mark 7:6-9

Those verse's all have one thing in common, they all say the law is standing. Now this can become tricky, because verses like 1 Corinthians 7:18-19 where Paul almost says one commandment is not necessary but still tells us to follow it... This is cleared up with a parallel in Romans 2:29. Saying that the law is in obeyed your heart, not in your religion. Such as praying alone to God in a closet, compared to having a public showing of how holy you are by praying in a mall for public attention. This also goes hand and hand with Jesus saying if any many looks lustfully at another, then you have committed adultery in your heart. (Matthew 5:28).

This is not what my question is over, but is a pivoting point for the answer. If I am correct the answer will lie in, do you follow it in only your heart. Or is a thing like James 2:8 more of the issue here?

I know that I have skimmed over like 8 preaching lessons in less then two paragraphs, and if I am wrong please show me. But I think I have a pretty good grasp over what I have said. I just had to law a foundation to build the question upon.


Here we go gnawing towards the bone.
In Deut. 4 it says do not add or subtract even one commandment.
In Exodus 32 The people of God who had just made a blood covenant with them, grew tired of waiting on God... So they went to Aaron and asked for him to make them a calf, Aaron did and dedicated a feast to the Lord. Even though the feast was dedicated to God, He was furious! He was about to slay them right then and there. Now, I believe that God became even more furious when they worshiped Him in the way Egyptians worship their gods... Why do I think this?Duet 12:28-32. God specifically told us, that when they get spread out upon the earth. Do not worship Him in the way the pagans worship their god's for it is an abomination unto God. He even warns us that the those people who worship their gods in those ways will be burnt in the fire.



Here is my question...

If Easter and Christmas were pagan holidays, should we worship Christ on those days? (No way was Christ born on the 25th, or died Easter Sunday...

December 25th being the day they worship their sun god's. And on Easter where they would sacrifice children and die eggs in the baby's blood, because Ishtar/Easter was Nimrods wife who was the god of fertility was reincarnated and when she came back down from the moon she came in a egg, To proclaim divinity she turned a bird into a rabbit that lays eggs. So, they would impregnate virgins on the alter of Easter and slaughter the children when they were 3 months old. And dye the eggs in the baby's blood as a remembrance of the goddess of the moon.

Tammuz was Nimrod's reincarnation name, and died in a freak hunting accident from a boar. So on Easter they would not only sacrifice children and die the egg's for the moon goddess, but they would slaughter a pig and eat it for the sun god on Easter.
Furthermore they would deny themselves 40 days of pleasure each year around the time of Easter so the sun god could have pleasure in the after life. Nearly identical to lent.
Ishtar/Easter Nimrod's wife said that she saw a tree appear when her husband/son ascended into heaven. And every year he would return to give presents under it...

Chemosh/Molech god of prosperity, his people had a tradition on December 25th that they would get a statue of him with a phrygian cap, red hot with a fire, and the people would make a list of their desires and then set a child on his lap so the desire would be fulfilled.


Zeus/Jupiter on December 25th a Greek general Antiochus Epiphanies set a statue of that god on the Temple Mount and sacrificed a pig on the Alter of God and declared Jupiter god over God.

Ra and Artis, both castrated themselves so worshipers would hang gold and silver balls in honor of them from palm tree's.



Do you think it would be pleasing unto God if I were to celebrate Christmas, even if I have a good intention? I know this is a very anti dramatic question after all of that... But I don't think that the answer lies around "BUT CHRISTMAS MEANS THIS TOO ME" If this were true then Deut 12:28-32 would be false...
 
Here is my question...
If Easter and Christmas were pagan holidays, should we worship Christ on those days? (No way was Christ born on the 25th, or died Easter Sunday..

Do you think it would be pleasing unto God if I were to celebrate Christmas, even if I have a good intention? I know this is a very anti dramatic question after all of that... But I don't think that the answer lies around "BUT CHRISTMAS MEANS THIS TOO ME" If this were true then Deut 12:28-32 would be false...

What does Paul tell us on this matter. What if Christmas falls on a Sunday?
 
Okay what does it say?

It says, When Israel goes into palestine and God gives her the land, to destroy the Gods of the people and do not follow after them.

they did not and were punished for it.
 
... we get the tree and hang balls from it, from Ra, Apolos, and Nimrod(to represent thier male parts)...

Tmi! :eek:

Good thing you usually use an 'angel' as tree topper, and don't follow the dutch tradition. ;)


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Christmas is the holiday where we, the Church, CHOOSE to celebrate the birth of Jesus the Christ, our Lord and Saviour....Easter is the holiday where we, the Church, CHOOSE to celebrate His death, burial and resurrection...............

Pretty simple to understand...............everything else is just some tired old argument where one person wants to appear more "holy" than anyone else..............well, in my opinion anyhoo..........
 

It says, When Israel goes into palestine and God gives her the land, to destroy the Gods of the people and do not follow after them.

they did not and were punished for it.
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and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.”31You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.
 
Okay what does it say?


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28 Observe and hear all these words which I command thee, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee for ever, when thou doest that which is good and right in the sight of the Lord thy God.
29 When the Lord thy God shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;
30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
31 Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.


Deut 12, says that if the pagans are practicing the 40 days of nonpleasure, and you practice the Sabbath, you are not to follow their ways... DO NOT WORSHIP GOD IN THE WAY THEY DO!



IT SAYS NOT TO WORSHIP PAGAN HOLIDAYS IN THE SAME MANNER AS THE PAGANS DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In other words, which if you read my previous reply, we are not to celebrate them with rituals and sacrifices.. geeshhhh!!
 
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Originally Posted by T_Laurich

28 Observe and hear all these words which I command thee, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee for ever, when thou doest that which is good and right in the sight of the Lord thy God.
29 When the Lord thy God shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;
30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
31 Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.


Deut 12, says that if the pagans are practicing the 40 days of nonpleasure, and you practice the Sabbath, you are not to follow their ways... DO NOT WORSHIP GOD IN THE WAY THEY DO!



IT SAYS NOT TO WORSHIP PAGAN HOLIDAYS IN THE SAME MANNER AS THE PAGANS DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In other words, which if you read my previous reply, we are not to celebrate them with rituals and sacrifices.. geeshhhh!!
We are given presents the same way the Babylonians were given them, by the sun god under a tree, we decorate the tree in the same manor the followers of Apolos and Ra did, to worship to the sun...

We put a child on the lap of Molech to have the desires fulfilled...

I MEAN COME ON! EVERY TRADITION WE HAVE DERIVED FROM THE PAGANS!

WE DIE EGGS TO HAVE A RABBIT THAT LAYS EGGS SPREAD THE OUT IN THE SAME WAY THE BABYLONIANS DECLARED THE DIVINITY OF ISHTAR!
 
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and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.”31You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.

show me where we do those things?

He tells them what not to do. are we doing those things?
 
Don't worship God in the way the Pagans do.
Deut 12:28-32

"In the way" is not the same as on the same day. Your particular use of logic in this matter is forcing you into a corner. I can worship God on Sunday and dedicate that day as holy unto the Lord; even if Christmas happens to fall on that day. That does not mean I am giving credence to Christmas, Santa Clause, or any of the trappings of that particular holiday.
 
We are given presents the same way the Babylonians were given them, by the sun god under a tree, we decorate the tree in the same manor the followers of Apolos and Ra did, to worship to the sun...

We put a child on the lap of Molech to have the desires fulfilled...

I MEAN COME ON! EVERY TRADITION WE HAVE DERIVED FROM THE PAGANS!


​I WILL SAY IT AGAIN..THOSE GODS NEVER EXISTED..THEY ARE MYTHICAL LEGENDS..
 
​I WILL SAY IT AGAIN..THOSE GODS NEVER EXISTED..THEY ARE MYTHICAL LEGENDS..
Don't you think that God knew the gods of the nations were fake as well? BUT WHAT DID HE SAY!

31 You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods (little g), they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.
 
Wasting your time 'bug'..................this is a tired old argument that comes around every year.........

Some folks hate the idea of Christmas, and some condemn to hell any who celebrate Christmas, and some of us take joy in celebrating the birth of our Saviour..................haters gonna hate..........so let them
 
Wasting your time 'bug'..................this is a tired old argument that comes around every year.........

Some folks hate the idea of Christmas, and some condemn to hell any who celebrate Christmas, and some of us take joy in celebrating the birth of our Saviour..................haters gonna hate..........so let them
NEVER HAVE I MENTIONED HELL! OR CONDEMNED!!!
 
Don't you think that God knew the gods of the nations were fake as well? BUT WHAT DID HE SAY!

31 You must not worship the Lord your God in their way,
because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.

you still have not shown how we do any of those things.

You stil ignore all the good God has done.

Dude you mind is closed. move on, No one will convince you, your heart is too hard. God is not going to give you some cookees or brownie points because your doing this, All your doing is causing a division among Gods people.