Question about The Masks

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ZNP

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They scan my badge before i get into the building. Everyone knows who i am. lol.

All right good, i'm glad we got past this part.

Now getting back to what you said later in the page regarding sneezing.
Besides the mask being a terrific fashion statement which i really like, it also happens to block any saliva when someone sneezes or talks in front of me.
Now i realize that the mask doesn't prevent any microscopic molecules, but it does prevent someone spitting on your nose while they're talking or if they happen to sneeze next to me.
So this fashionable mask also gives me some practical function.

As two other members mentioned early, this mask has been a thing in Asia for decades so maybe there might be an adjustment period here in the West too before it becomes a thing like wearing a tie.

Now getting back to my other question. What would you do about this mask situation if you ran the world for a day?
I would decline the offer
 

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All right let's recap.
We have a situation where the government can make people disappear and dictate based on how they feel with no mandates or checks.
We also have a second amendment which says that we need to invoke it when the government does such things.

Sooooo .... can you tell me why don't we use the second amendment?
Do we just like to complain? Or just say stuff or are we for real?
no, we don't.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

that's all the 2A says. oh, sure, it's infringed all the time. but there's nothing there saying, hey, let's overthrow the government! :cautious:

my parents never owned a gun. my husband and i have never owned one. until a month ago, i had never seen one in person. i am fully aware that people from other nations think the 2A wrong. i don't know if it's possible for outsiders to appreciate our appreciation of The Bill of Rights.
 

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Haven't read the whole thread, but something that is not talked much about with masks is the fact that you are continuously breathing your body's waste.

It's akin to ingesting OTHER waste your body is designed to expel because IT'S WASTE!! I have seen studies that prove it is unhealthy to do for any length of time.

Also, as possibly previously stated, your immune system NEEDS to encounter bacteria, germs, and virus' specifically because it will know how to deal with similar germs, that may be more dangerous to make you sick.


DO NOT COMPLY!
 

ZNP

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We have seen how much compassion and concern Joe Biden has for our health and well being in East Palestine, in Maui, and when soldiers came back from Afghanistan in coffins.

Since you have clearly seen this know that this same concern and compassion for you is expressed when he puts on that mask for the cameras.
 

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no, we don't.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

that's all the 2A says. oh, sure, it's infringed all the time. but there's nothing there saying, hey, let's overthrow the government! :cautious:

my parents never owned a gun. my husband and i have never owned one. until a month ago, i had never seen one in person. i am fully aware that people from other nations think the 2A wrong. i don't know if it's possible for outsiders to appreciate our appreciation of The Bill of Rights.
Thank you for your answer here but can you help me understand why the second amendment is there then?
Is it to look good or ... something else? Because as you say, it is infringed all the time but it doesn't say to overthrow.
But this is what people claim of other countries, they don't have guns so they're doomed ... about anything.
So help me understand this conundrum.

As far as guns go, i am just like you, i don't own them, i don't need them, i never needed them and i'm pretty sure i will never need them either.
I also realize that many others have like 10 ARs for whatever reason.

Could it be perhaps that the second amendment has nothing to with anything except with the desire to own weapons? You know, we all like something.
For example, i LOVE masks. Some people LOVE guns.
I don't care if you have 10 guns for example. Enjoy them.
I will also sleep with my mask happily.
 

ZNP

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Thank you for your answer here but can you help me understand why the second amendment is there then?
Is it to look good or ... something else? Because as you say, it is infringed all the time but it doesn't say to overthrow.
But this is what people claim of other countries, they don't have guns so they're doomed ... about anything.
So help me understand this conundrum.

As far as guns go, i am just like you, i don't own them, i don't need them, i never needed them and i'm pretty sure i will never need them either.
I also realize that many others have like 10 ARs for whatever reason.

Could it be perhaps that the second amendment has nothing to with anything except with the desire to own weapons? You know, we all like something.
For example, i LOVE masks. Some people LOVE guns.
I don't care if you have 10 guns for example. Enjoy them.
I will also sleep with my mask happily.
The basic concept on the US constitution is "a balance of power" with "checks and balances". The states were supposed to have equal power as a state that was a balance to the power of the Federal government. The word "militia" indicates a state run militia, not a Federal army. The constitution was making it clear that the Federal government could not take away the right of each state to have their own militia. But it was vague enough so that you could see a militia as being based in each town, city, or county.
 

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The basic concept on the US constitution is "a balance of power" with "checks and balances". The states were supposed to have equal power as a state that was a balance to the power of the Federal government. The word "militia" indicates a state run militia, not a Federal army. The constitution was making it clear that the Federal government could not take away the right of each state to have their own militia. But it was vague enough so that you could see a militia as being based in each town, city, or county.
This is great. So we need to do some vocabulary adjustments then again on how we call things that are non-American right?
Because other countries like Switzerland have guns or other countries have mandatory service in the army like Israel, but they don't have anything written in the constitution about a group of people gathering with guns.
Many people gather around with guns in different parts of the world but they don't have anything written in their constituitions about guns either.

So the adjustment and the understanding that we need to make here is that "USA is different because it has it written whereas other countries don't".
This has nothing to do with actions, consequences or complaints then.
We complain here about Biden and they complain in Italy about Berlusconi (now deceased) but we all have guns pretty much.
It's just that some countries have it written, and others don't.
 

ZNP

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This is great. So we need to do some vocabulary adjustments then again on how we call things that are non-American right?
Because other countries like Switzerland have guns or other countries have mandatory service in the army like Israel, but they don't have anything written in the constitution about a group of people gathering with guns.
Many people gather around with guns in different parts of the world but they don't have anything written in their constituitions about guns either.

So the adjustment and the understanding that we need to make here is that "USA is different because it has it written whereas other countries don't".
This has nothing to do with actions, consequences or complaints then.
We complain here about Biden and they complain in Italy about Berlusconi (now deceased) but we all have guns pretty much.
It's just that some countries have it written, and others don't.
Why is the rest of the world concerned about this? I don't care what Switzerland's laws are about guns, why do they care about the US laws?
 

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Why is the rest of the world concerned about this? I don't care what Switzerland's laws are about guns, why do they care about the US laws?
The rest of the world is not concerned about USA guns laws.
It's just that some people here in this forum or members of the conservative team, make these irresponsible statements about how other countries are doomed without a second amendment.
 

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ZNP

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I do not for one second trust any of these vaccines.
It is a sure thing. Tax payers pay to develop it, government mandates it to everyone and you have to sign away any right to sue them. No upfront costs, and no liability, it is just like having a printing press printing money. Brought to you by the same administration that made human trafficking profitable again.
 

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I do not for one second trust any of these vaccines.
I have mixed views about this.
First of all me personally haven't gotten any boosters or anything like that. I just like my cool masks lol.
Now on principle, the medical profession is geared to help people but practically and this depends where you are, it turns into a business model. For example the medicine in United States is geared towards keeping people medicated, whereas in other countries the medicine is geared to help people live healthier and more focused on cures as opposed to treatments.
The medical decisions here are purely insurance-driven and the doctor has to follow an insurance program not a medical program.
For example if you go to the doctor for a problem, he has to give you what insurance says to give first, not what medicine as a profession would say to give you first.
And a lot of the medical sentiment in the States is not geared towards prevention but around management of symptoms.
So i act accordingly depending on which zip code i am or what country i am.
 

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I have mixed views about this.
First of all me personally haven't gotten any boosters or anything like that. I just like my cool masks lol.
Now on principle, the medical profession is geared to help people but practically and this depends where you are, it turns into a business model. For example the medicine in United States is geared towards keeping people medicated, whereas in other countries the medicine is geared to help people live healthier and more focused on cures as opposed to treatments.
The medical decisions here are purely insurance-driven and the doctor has to follow an insurance program not a medical program.
For example if you go to the doctor for a problem, he has to give you what insurance says to give first, not what medicine as a profession would say to give you first.
And a lot of the medical sentiment in the States is not geared towards prevention but around management of symptoms.
So i act accordingly depending on which zip code i am or what country i am.
Look at the history of the CDC and its experimentation on Americans. There's not reason to trust a single thing they say or do. Private insurance companies are not the problem, it's the government that won't stay out of healthcare.