Rapture= false teaching

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the tribulation isn't God's wrath.
we're not appointed to wrath. but we will have tribulation.
 
Red33 said:
...and the disposition that you have exhibited from your heart in this post toward me is...?

...you may consider your post one of exhortation that comes from a mature believer, while you have judged what I have said as being immature and critical of my brother. I have that right don't I?

Who will be our judge in this matter? It would be better that you be honest and admit that you have disdain for me because of how I communicate and address matters of doctrine and certain individuals. Make sure that you inform others that you feel that I have committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit of which is unforgivable. Why you still correspond to any of my posts or have anything to do with me is not being true to your convictions. Either be true to your convictions of truth or tell me that you have repented of your false accusations of blasphemy against me. That way there may be a possibility for true fellowship that is based on the blood of Christ and not some insecure sentimental relationship with others through personality rapport.
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Once we take out the empty words it is true that you seek to find fault with the posts of certain individuals who do not see things the same way you do.

So what are your true convictions based on? Love for others? Or a determination to be seen as being right? If it is the latter you are on dangerous ground
 
Red33 said:
If it is not fair to assume what I mentioned in the first paragraph, then tell us plainly what convictions you do have from the scriptures or revelations from the Spirit concerning the catching away of the church. If a remember correctly, I believe, in another post, that you mentioned you were leaning toward a mid-trib rapture. With the gift you profess to have, I would think that the Spirit would tell you right out what the truth is concerning this matter involving the rapture of the church. The Spirit has revealed to you the judgment that is coming upon the church, so not to tell you concerning His plan to rapture it would seem to be incomplete. One to shame and discipline the church and the other would be to give it faith and hope. Perhaps you don't feel comfortable telling us because you feel that we might not understand your position on this that you have received from the Spirit.
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See, assumptions again. I said that I was leaning in a certain direction, not that the Spirit has said to me one way or another! I don't presume to tell the Spirit what I need to hear from Him, I listen with open heart and open ears, to whatever He has to say to me.

Judgment on the church is actually according to scripture, seeing as judgment begins with the house of God. If we are mature in Christ, we not only accept judgment, we seek it, because in judgment is the truth of what we have that needs crucified in Him, (unless you are perfect already, then you need no judgment.)

Your scriptural based faith is still misleading you.
 
VW said:
You were answering my post, correct?

What were you saying?

What was your intent with the verse from Col?
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hi VW.
to proclaim that Jesus gave me life, in abundance when he raised me from the dead.
i used the verse exactly as it was written: liberty in Him, not needing to submit to busybodies with their regulations.
 
livingbygrace said:
Once we take out the empty words it is true that you seek to find fault with the posts of certain individuals who do not see things the same way you do.

So what are your true convictions based on? Love for others? Or a determination to be seen as being right? If it is the latter you are on dangerous ground
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LBG,

You are on your own and I hope the best for you.
 
VW said:
See, assumptions again. I said that I was leaning in a certain direction, not that the Spirit has said to me one way or another! I don't presume to tell the Spirit what I need to hear from Him, I listen with open heart and open ears, to whatever He has to say to me.

Judgment on the church is actually according to scripture, seeing as judgment begins with the house of God. If we are mature in Christ, we not only accept judgment, we seek it, because in judgment is the truth of what we have that needs crucified in Him, (unless you are perfect already, then you need no judgment.)

Your scriptural based faith is still misleading you.
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VW,

You are also on your own and I wish the best for you.
 
walt2000 said:
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Look at the 6 horizontal line , man ,and then look at the 6 vertical line, man Thunder ,and draw a line diagonally from one White Horse to the other White Horse .Where all Three intersect, Rev.14/2 In tn
In the The Great Thunder The Eighth Thunder
You will get Rev.16/12.Three evil spirits ,like frogs
The Great River 6= Dragon.1 frog devil
6= beast out of Sea,------2 frog beast out of Sea ,,people.
6= False prophet.---------3 frog false prophet ,the vomit that the dragon vomited ,at the child ,and woman. False Word.
666 The Beast

Rev. 13/18 This calls for wisdom.If anyone has insight , let him calculate the number of the beast .for it is man's number .His number is 666
walt2000
 
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Look at Seal no. five Read it horizontally .Souls are given White Robes and are told to come out my people ,come up my people (RAPTURE )? walt2000
 
Protected By A RAPTURE .Or JUST protected JUST BEFORE THE EARTH QUAKE .(WAR) .walt2000
 
walt2000 said:
Look at the 6 horizontal line , man ,and then look at the 6 vertical line, man Thunder ,and draw a line diagonally from one White Horse to the other White Horse .Where all Three intersect, Rev.14/2 In tn
In the The Great Thunder The Eighth Thunder
You will get Rev.16/12.Three evil spirits ,like frogs
The Great River 6= Dragon.1 frog devil
6= beast out of Sea,------2 frog beast out of Sea ,,people.
6= False prophet.---------3 frog false prophet ,the vomit that the dragon vomited ,at the child ,and woman. False Word.
666 The Beast

Rev. 13/18 This calls for wisdom.If anyone has insight , let him calculate the number of the beast .for it is man's number .His number is 666
walt2000
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Such disrespect for the holy word of God! No good!

 
Disrespect , Or we don't Agree with your version of things in Revelation??? walt2000
 
The time that you answered ,And the time I posted didn't give you even a chance to read my post ,let alone give a real Earnest answer .walt2000
 
zone said:
hi VW.
to proclaim that Jesus gave me life, in abundance when he raised me from the dead.
i used the verse exactly as it was written: liberty in Him, not needing to submit to busybodies with their regulations.
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Oh, Okay, amen!!!
 
walt2000 said:
Disrespect , Or we don't Agree with your version of things in Revelation??? walt2000
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I have no strong opinion on what Revelation means. It is a book that can't be understood fully until events in the world fulfill it. It's just a question whether it's already fulfilled, or yet to be fulfilled. Surely Revelation 21 and 22, the new heavens and the new earth, the New Jerusalem, are still in the future. For Christians. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington Where in Revelation does it command us to make charts based on Revelation?

 
Disrespect , Or we don't Agree with your version of things in Revelation???
ONE DAY Revelation will be broke opened. I believe the Lord has the Key 's .One Day it will be opened . Maybe we gave the Key back ? Or we already turned him away .walt2000
 
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