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MyrtleTrees

MyrtleTrees

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Why do you think Jesus rejected the temple leaders of HIs time, then? They knew the scriptures very well, but still didn't have true salvation that leads to the eternal destiny of heaven.
John 5:37-40

37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
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And Jesus referred to them as children of the devil.
John 8:42-44

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
KJV
 
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Reformyourself

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MyrtleTrees said:
Why do you think Jesus rejected the temple leaders of HIs time, then? They knew the scriptures very well, but still didn't have true salvation that leads to the eternal destiny of heaven.
John 5:37-40

37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
KJV

And Jesus referred to them as children of the devil.
John 8:42-44

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
KJV
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He is reading the scriptures! ...For It is The power of G_d into salvation... Rom. 1:16 🙏
 
Benadam

Benadam

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The world receives Salvation through the Virgin Mary. Jesus is Bone of her bone flesh of her flesh. Her role in salvation history is singular and proclaimed by the first Gospel in history.
Sacred vessel that held the Word of God and delivered Salvation to the Saints.

In the Jewish Temple can a Sacred vessel be used for an ordinary purpose?
 
Benadam

Benadam

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Jesus's mother is most united to Jesus. She shared His suffering most, no greater faith in Jesus than that of His mother.

Her life is completely interwoven in the life her son and so God.
Like the Father, she gave up her only son .
When Jesus taught that one must be called by the father to come to Him, Jesus and His mother lived this divine dynamic.

Who could Mary tell that would believe? The fact is no one. Who could believe suc

Only heaven can reveal the incarnation.
 
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Bede

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Reformyourself said:
We cannot ask those who have ‘passed on’ to pray for us...look what happened to Saul when he disturbed the prophet samuel...
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Two big differences between the two.
1. Samuel was not in heaven at the time but in "Sheaol".
2. Saul was asking for information about the future - divination which is strictly forbidden.
All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to "unveil" the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone. (CCC 2116)

Catholics are not conjuring up spirits from the dead by asking Mary, in heaven, for her intercession.
 
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Reformyourself

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Bede said:
What's that?
Two fingers or a bifurcated thumbs up?
Do you have a problem with my reply?
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Peace sign, meaning I give up-cant believe you read The Bible and believe you can pray to Mary too. Sorry st bede 😔
 
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Reformyourself

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Reformyourself said:
I know. Numbers 6:24-26
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We used to sing the hymn ‘my G_d loves me’ in primary school. now i can’t sing it without getting a lump in my throat when I think of how much Ive let Him down since then
 
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Kemorean

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oyster67 said:
I feel that the rational thing for Christians to do would be to dispose of all things denominational and simply follow Christ and His Word. Heavenly unity should be our(Christians) goal even now.
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We can not just "not be denominational" Like it or not Jesus Christ came 2,000 years ago to found ONE Church for us..not hundreds of denominations who can not all agree on one Christian doctrine! Jesus said to Simon, "You are Peter and upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH." (Matt.16:18) The holy Word of God also says that Jesus Christ "..so loved the CHURCH that he laid down his life for her." (Eph. 5:25) And the Bible, given to the world at the Catholic Council of Corinth in 397 A.D. also says that.. "The CHURCH is the pillar and foundation of truth." (1 Tim.3:25) And History..shows that no Protestant Church would exist for another 15 centuries..until the Reformation in 1532 A.D.
 
JaumeJ

JaumeJ

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Yeshua now called Jesus by many is the Chief and the Corner Stone rejected of men and taken to Heaven.

All who believe Him actively are living stones of the Temple.

Yeshua has taught me, and most others, that there shall not be one stone left upon the other before He returns. This teaching means much to all.

That assembly on the Rock is the Assembly of the children of Abraham, that is, true praisers of Yahweh, or of God.

This is not complete, rather an outline of what all should know, study to know, pray to know, and meditate upon to know.
 
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Prycejosh1987

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Relic said:
If Jesus was here today, He would be pulling His hair out at
the stupidity.
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I think it was Paul who said the one who has faith to eat meat should not condemn the one that has faith to just eat vegetables. I believe that the writer knew people would have different opinions on the word of God. I we should come to our own faith, as long as the core values are in place then, god bless to all.
 
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