Reconciled to God while enemies !

[brightfame52]

Who is it that shall be saved ?

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Who is it that shall be saved ? I like that word shall in scripture, for it denotes certainty, ,it will occur ! It means something is sure to happen by the promise and word of Him that cannot lie. Now here is a for sure promise to everyone Christ died for, and by His Death Reconciled them to God, even while they were being enemies/unbelievers, they all, everyone of them, Shall be Saved ! How ? By His Life !

So who is it that shall be saved [By His Life] ? All those whom were reconciled to God by Christ's Death while they were enemies and unbelievers, that's who ! 4

 

[reneweddaybyday]

reneweddaybyday said:

manipulation to generate your predicted outcome does not result in truth. you skew the results through your biased approach ... biased input results in biased and/or inaccurate output​

brightfame52 said:

No its not manipulation, its familiar with different doctrine persuasions. When I use the machine Im seeking information to better understand my convictions, and it assists from there. You can use it to better understand your beliefs.​

reneweddaybyday said:

I'm more concerned about the truth of God's Word ... not bolstering your preconceived notion.​

Sorry but i dont see that

query: "biased input into ai"

AI (bold/red mine):​

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Biased input into AI—whether through skewed training data, flawed algorithm design, or unbalanced prompt engineering—forces the system to learn and amplify those exact prejudices. This directly distorts outputs ...​

query: "should someone rely on ai for proper interpretation of Scripture"

AI (bold/red mine):​

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No, one should not solely rely on AI for the proper interpretation of Scripture. While AI can be a useful research assistant for summarizing historical contexts, generating outlines, or doing word searches, it lacks spiritual discernment, moral agency, and the ability to understand nuanced theological truths.​

If you still "dont see that" ... maybe AI can put it in braille for you.


2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

If you are not rightly dividing the word of truth, you are not approved and you are (or should be) ashamed.


query: "can ai rightly divide the word of truth"

AI (bold/underline mine):​

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No. An artificial intelligence cannot rightly divide the word of truth (a phrase derived from 2 Timothy 2:15) because true spiritual discernment requires human faith, lived experience, and the illuminating work of the Holy Spirit. AI acts as an information processor, not a spiritual agent ...​

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[brightfame52]

Whats the difference ?


The difference between the enemies that God Loves through Christ as Per Rom 5:10 whom Christ died for, and His enemies whom He did not Love through Christ and for whom Christ did not die for is this: Now those enemies God does Love, when Christ died for them, by His Death they were reconciled to God [received into His Divine Favor] even while being enemies Rom 5:10

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled[as enemies, we shall be saved by his life.

And the promise to those reconciled enemies is that they shall be saved by His Life [future indicative]

So clearly there is Hope of Salvation promised to all reconciled enemies/unbelievers by Christ's Death alone ! Whereas those enemies that Christ did not die for while being enemies, instead of being reconciled to God, the wrath of God is abiding on them Jn 3:36

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Not only is the wrath of God abiding on them [not reconciled] they have a promise of NOT SEEING LIFE ! Future indicative, they have no promise of being saved by His Life as those enemies have in Rom 5:10, the difference being, the Death of Christ. Christ's Death guarantee's all those enemies He died for shall be saved by His Life ! 4

 

[brightfame52]

Reconciliation inwardly also !

Most of my teaching has been on the objective side of Reconciliation, that all for whom Christ died, even while they are enemies, nevertheless they have been objectively, legally reconciled to God, and that solely by His Death. Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we [Believers] were enemies/unbelievers, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now there is another truth about the Reconciliation that the Work of Christ for His People provides and effectuates, and that is a Reconciliation in His People, through Christ. Col 1:21-22

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

It cannot be denied here that Paul is acknowledgment to Christ's Death " In the body of his flesh through death" to be the cause why they were no longer " alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works", which they were by nature. If you recall in Rom 5:10 when just objectively Reconciled by Christ's Death, they were still enemies but here in this verse Paul's extends the Reconciliation by Christ's Death to save them out of that state of enmity.

This is so because the Reconciling Death is the meritorious cause or reason for them receiving New Life from the Spirit, and by this New Spiritual Life, they are Now Reconciled experientially, which is but the fulfillment of the promise in Rom 5:10 b They shall be saved by His Life ! The Saving by His Life there is experiential Reconciliation or Conversion ! In other words, those who are objectively reconciled by Christ's death while still being unconverted, the promise is that they shall be converted or saved by His Life !

For all this is in line with the Purpose of His Death, which was to bring those He died for back to God 1 Pet 3:18

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins[His Death], the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

The word bring is a strong word and it means:

to cause to come to or toward oneself; attract

Or we can say it means to reconcile us experientially to God. That was a main Purpose for Christ being put to death for those He died for, in order to convert them to God. If that does not happen for each one He died for, God's Purpose in His Death has failed ! So each Person He died for shall be Reconciled inwardly to God also !

 

[brightfame52]

Those who are reconciled to God while they are yet enemies/unbelievers, by Christ's Death, The promise to them is that they SHALL be saved his life Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

The Life here is His resurrected Life, whereas He after Resurrection, forever liveth to make Intercession for them, which results in their coming to God by Him. Heb 7:25

25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth [His Life] to make intercession for them.

So, the promise for the reconciled in Rom 5:10 is a promise of the application of salvation to the reconciled. This means that conversion is owing to the ever living intercession of Christ, the one who died for them.

The requirement for Christ interceding for any, isn't that they be believers already, but that He died and rose again in their behalf Rom 8:33-34

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

So Christ's Intercession saves those He died for in that it ensures the Spiritual application of all of His saving merits, carried out by or executed by the Holy Spirit.

As a result the Holy Spirit saves them experimentally Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

This saving here by the renewing of the Holy Ghost is ensured by the ever living intercession of Christ, to all for whom Christ died and reconciled to God, up to the end of the age, this is a guarantee as Long as Christ Liveth ! 4

 

[brightfame52]

Reconcile the reconciled !

All those whom Christ died for, by His Death alone, apart from any obedience of their own, and in fact while they were being enemies, they have been reconciled to God [received into His Favor], again solely by His Son's Death Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we[Believers] were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now these reconciled enemies, unbelievers here in Vs 10 are the same ones of that World Paul states this of in 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

But now how does this square with what is written, the imperative in Vs 20 ?

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Here is the meaning, in Rom 5:10 and 2 Cor 5:19, those whom Christ died for are Reconciled to God objectively while still in the flesh[sin nature] and very much unconverted and at enmity with God, but now when the imperative is issued, a summons to Gospel Faith and Obedience, " Be ye reconciled to God" It is when they are in their New Nature, Born of God, and now it is time for them to have a special apprehension of that Reconciliation that Christ has already accomplished or Established with God for us. Its a calling into fellowship 1 Cor 1:9

God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

Before and without a New Birth and Nature we are not fit vessels for Communion and Fellowship with God.

So that's the difference, When merely objectively reconciled, we are still in a state of nature and enmity against God, and hence the Need of New Birth Jn 3:7, then we are reconciled to God inherently.

The imperative in Vs 20 is actually a turning us to God, because though it is an imperative, its in the passive voice, meaning By the Command God is actually reconciling us to Himself, we are the subjects of God's Command, it works upon us. That's why the Gospel is called the Power of God unto salvation to everyone who is believing.

 

[GWH]

Reconcile the reconciled !

All those whom Christ died for, by His Death alone, apart from any obedience of their own, and in fact while they were being enemies, they have been reconciled to God [received into His Favor], again solely by His Son's Death Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we[Believers] were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now these reconciled enemies, unbelievers here in Vs 10 are the same ones of that World Paul states this of in 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

But now how does this square with what is written, the imperative in Vs 20 ?

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Here is the meaning, in Rom 5:10 and 2 Cor 5:19, those whom Christ died for are Reconciled to God objectively while still in the flesh[sin nature] and very much unconverted and at enmity with God, but now when the imperative is issued, a summons to Gospel Faith and Obedience, " Be ye reconciled to God" It is when they are in their New Nature, Born of God, and now it is time for them to have a special apprehension of that Reconciliation that Christ has already accomplished or Established with God for us. Its a calling into fellowship 1 Cor 1:9

God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

Before and without a New Birth and Nature we are not fit vessels for Communion and Fellowship with God.

So that's the difference, When merely objectively reconciled, we are still in a state of nature and enmity against God, and hence the Need of New Birth Jn 3:7, then we are reconciled to God inherently.

The imperative in Vs 20 is actually a turning us to God, because though it is an imperative, its in the passive voice, meaning By the Command God is actually reconciling us to Himself, we are the subjects of God's Command, it works upon us. That's why the Gospel is called the Power of God unto salvation to everyone who is believing.

I see this record is still being replayed.
If by saying "When merely objectively reconciled", you mean Christ's atonement paid the penalty for humanity's sins, okay.

And yes, unrepentant souls (Rom. 5:8-10) remain lost or "in a state of enmity against God and in need of "new birth" or being born again per John 3:7.

Souls are re-born when they re-pent (Matt. 4:17) and re-ceive the HS (Rev. 3:20, Rom. 5:5) and are therefore re-conciled to God (Rom. 8:9).

 

[brightfame52]

If by saying "When merely objectively reconciled", you mean Christ's atonement paid the penalty for humanity's sins, okay.

No only for the elect. All humanity has not been objectively reconciled, else all humanity would be saved by His Life. And universalism isnt true

 

[brightfame52]

I came across an article written back in 2017 that I believe is truth about reconciliation:

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. – Rom 5:10

The death of Jesus Christ did not merely make sinners reconcilable to God. The above text says they were actually reconciled by it. This reconciliation occurred when they were still contemplated as enemies to God, and was therefore prior to any faith, repentance or obedience on their part. It was done entirely by Christ. This same principle is communicated elsewhere in the Bible. For example:
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. – 2Cor 5:18-21

So the reconciliation of God toward His people was completed in the death of Christ and was suspended on nothing else. As Paul said elsewhere, “For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified,” (Heb 10:14). And in the same place he said, “... we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all,” (Heb 10:10). See how that it was the offering of Christ that accomplished these things. It had no basis whatsoever in any obedience of our own. Nor should it be thought that this “offering” is something that we do or have already done because Paul elsewhere said that Christ “through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God,” (Heb 9:14), and in yet another place he said, “But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God,” (10:12). So it was Christ Himself who was the offering and it was Christ Himself who made the offering.

These facts serve to explain the following important text:

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having
forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross. – Col 2:1314
So at the time we were quickened or born again, we had already been forgiven for Christ’s sake. Our sins had been nailed to the cross at the very same time that Jesus was. We were quickened by God on account of this fact, not in order to make it a fact.

In short, all legal aspects of our salvation were completed when Christ died on the cross, and the way was then opened and ensured for all else that would follow. He death bought our regeneration, justification, resurrection and glorification. This is why Paul said that God “... hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ,” (Eph 1:3). Hence, there is no such thing as any spiritual blessing outside of Christ, nor is there any such thing as a spiritual blessing that is disconnected from the cross of Christ. As Paul said elsewhere, “But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world,” (Gal 6:14).

The chapter containing our primary verse began with the crucial claim, “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,” (Rom 5:1). This important declaration should not be interpreted in disregard to the explanations that followed it. The principle of justification by faith should never be taught in denial of the facts that we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son alone, and that such was done when we were counted as enemies, not as believers. This means that our faith should not be considered as a basis, cause or means of being reconciled to God. It is rather the declaration and certification of this fact. As Paul told the Ephesians, “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,” (Eph 1:13). The word “sealed” means to be certified. This is the divine certification of a work done by Christ alone, entirely through His grace, and we should always be cautious to praise only Him for it.

9/10/17 https://www.primitivebaptistsermons.org/modern/article-details.php?id=8

 

[brightfame52]

Reconcile the reconciled ! 2

Now who does this apply to [Reconciliation of the reconciled], for it only applies to believers, for only believers were reconciled to God by Christ's Death while being unbelievers. They were reconciled to God apart from any previous conditions performed in them or by them, it being solely perform by Christ's One Act of Obedience upon the Cross [Phil 2:8], meaning His Death/ Blood. 4

 

[brightfame52]

What is the Word of Reconciliation ?

2 Cor 5:19,17

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Exactly what is this word of Reconciliation ? The Word of Reconciliation is actually found in Vs 17, All for whom Christ died are by His Death alone, legally before God's Law and Justice, a New Creature or Creation :

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Everyone Christ died for and rose from the dead in behalf of, are in Him and by that a New Creature !

This Message of Reconciliation is a fact accomplished for all whom He died, and all of them have a declared standing of having been Reconciled to God, and no sins can be imputed to/against them Vs 19

All for whom He died, their sins against God have all been purged away Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

Because of what Christ has done, all for whom He died are in a New Relationship with God .

The point is, their Faith is not what made them New Creatures, the Work of Christ did that alone, not even the Spirit did that at first; but Faith is called forth in the preaching of the Word of

Truth/Reconciliation, that those who are Spiritually alive are persuaded of that accomplished fact; So it is that we Trust Christ if we are already New Creatures.

In this we do not Trust Christ in order to be made New Creatures, but we Trust Him because we were made New Creatures. All who are made New Creatures positionally by His Death and Resurrection, are given life and Faith[By the Spirit] to become New Creatures experientially.

Paul Preaches in Reconciliation, that all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ 2 Cor 5:18

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Because of His Death alone, believers had a New Creation status of being Reconciled to God [while enemies], all that had been written against them as Per Col 2:14

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

All things pertaining to their sins and transgressions against God's Law, that made us guilty have been taken away from the record books, expunged,wiped out, so that they have been exonerated from them,so that not any of them will ever have to fear this scenario Rev 20:11-15, even though their names will concern one of those books then [The Book of Life] but for all others, the books record their evil deeds and iniquities against God's Holy Law and Gospel, and they shall be sentenced accordingly. 4

But the Message of Reconciliation is that the very sins the reprobate will be punished for, those very same type sins were never charged to those Christ died for, for in His Death, God was not charging them their Trespasses against them. This is the Word of Reconciliation.

 

[brightfame52]

All for whom Christ died have been objectively reconciled to God solely on the merits of Christ's Death. Now this means that by Christ's Death alone, those He died for are restored into a right relationship with God, even to a higher degree than they had in Adam before he sinned, even while they themselves in themselves are enemies, unbelievers, ungodly. Now how is this so ? Through the Lord Jesus Christ !!

Yes, that's the purport of Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

That word reconciled means:

to change, exchange, as coins for others of equivalent value

a) to reconcile (those who are at variance)

b) return to favour with, be reconciled to one

c) to receive one into favour

Its to be now approved of God ! Ps 5:12

For thou, Lord, wilt bless the righteous; with favour wilt thou compass him as with a shield.

Now again, those Christ died for have been given this favor with God, even while they are enemies in themselves, they are Justified Rom 5:9 !

However, this objective reconciliation which put them in the favor of God, a right relationship with Him, it precedes and effects subjective life, which is experiential Salvation by Christ's Life. One translation reads:

10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, it is much more [certain], now that we are reconciled, that we shall be saved (daily delivered from sin’s dominion) through His [resurrection] life.AMP

Now understand Paul's point here, that all whom have been objectively reconciled to God by Christ's Death [which is all for whom He died] being thusly objectively reconciled [while enemies, unbelievers] THEY SHALL BE [A Promise] SAVED/ Delivered/ Reconciled [Subjectively] by His Life !

Now understand, those whom Christ died for are not reconciled to God objectively when they believe, no, for they were reconciled objectively [put in a right relation with God, in His Favor] solely by Christ's Death and Blood, while being unbelievers and enemies.

Now not until that reconciled one is born again with Life from Christ and by the Spirit, they remain alienated from the life of God subjectively.

So in light of this, all for whom He died and reconciled to God[objectively] while being enemies,they must also be born again or made alive in accordance with their favorable relationship status they already have by Chris's Death for them.

The New Birth by the Spirit is the answer to the promise " THEY SHALL BE SAVED BY HIS LIFE" that is by His Resurrected Life which gives them New Birth.

Proof of that is seen here 1 Pet 1:3

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Notice what Peter declares the Father did through the Resurrection of Christ from the dead. He hath begotten us again. The words for begotten us again in the original are anagennaō:

to produce again, be born again, born anew

2) metaph. to have one's mind changed so that he lives a new life and one conformed to the will of God

Some translations read :

May the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ be blessed! On account of his vast mercy, he has given us new birth. You have been born anew into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.CBE

That's how those that Christ died for and reconciled to God [objectively] while they were enemies and unbelievers, this is how God makes Good the Promise, that those so reconciled while enemies, SHALL BE SAVED BY HIS LIFE, this is the fulfillment of the Promise , Their New Birth !

This New Birth is also called being saved according to His Mercy here Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Is that not the same " according to His Mercy " here in Peter 1 Pet 1:3

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Yes it is, Peter just adds abundant mercy to his statement. So New Birth to live and New Life to God is granted to all for whom Christ died and reconciled to God while they were enemies. This cannot be denied without denying the Truth of scripture. 4

 

[GWH]

I came across an article written back in 2017 that I believe is truth about reconciliation:

Well, I came across this verse written back circa 57 that indicates why some are not reconciled in accordance with God’s love per 1Tim. 2:3-4: 2Thes. 2:10.

 

[brightfame52]

Well, I came across this verse written back circa 57 that indicates why some are not reconciled in accordance with God’s love per 1Tim. 2:3-4: 2Thes. 2:10.

So did you take time to read and understand the article I posted ? You dont have to agree with it, but did you understand it ?

 

[brightfame52]

Romans 5:10 is actually a Gospel declaration of what God through Christ has done for His Elect, and what He shall yet do for them through Christ. Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

For He that spared not His Son but gave Him Up for us all [ The Elect] how shall He not along with Him bestow upon us all things, which includes giving us life by Him. Rom 8:32

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

2 Pet 1:3

According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

You see, the giving of His Gift, His Son would be incomplete if by giving Him He did not with Him bestow Eternal Life upon us or subjective Spiritual Life. That is how one is saved out of death, by God communicating to them spiritual life, and that is what Christ's death merited for all whom He died. That's why Eternal Life [subjective spiritual life] is called the Gift of God through [by means of] Jesus Christ our Lord ! 4

 

[brightfame52]

Reconciliation is Salvation !

Reconciliation is Salvation because it puts them whom Christ died for into a experimentally saved state, which was promised here Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Reconciliation puts those Christ died for into fellowship with God, and His Son the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Yes, the reconciliation that Christ has accomplished by His Death has a double effect, first, those sinners He died for, He has by His Death reconciled God to them, for God could have no fellowship with them if sin has not been removed from them by His Law and Justice. Without God having been reconciled to those Christ died for, their sin would have been their eternal ruin, their fall in adam would have been fatal and without remedy. Yes even before that death occurred in time [in adam], God was reconciled by Christ's death, for He was the Lamb slain from the foundation Rev 13:8, if this had not been true, sin in adam could not have been atoned for, mercy could not have been shown; However the wrath and enmity the elect did incur by their sin in adam, and within themselves, was charged to Christ, because He Loved them, and had become their Surety before they sinned. This is the reconciliation Paul writes of in Rom 5:10a and 2 Cor 5:19 which consisted in not having their trespasses imputed to them, and so even while they were being enemies by nature, they had already been reconciled to God by the Merits of Christ's Death, even though Christ had not yet even died in time !

Then secondly, those Christ died for, they themselves personally shall be reconciled to God subjectively, by the Work of the Holy Spirit in them by New Birth, producing the spiritual gifts of Faith and Repentance; and that's why its said of those who have been reconciled by His death they are or shall be saved[reconciled subjectively] by His Life, this doctrine proves that all for whom Christ died shall be saved.

The Reconciliation of Christ death is ineffective if it does not turn all for whom He died from their sins as Per Acts 3:26

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Thats the great blessing promised Abraham Gen 12:3

3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

The blessing is being turned away from our iniquities, That granting Faith and Repentance.

The ISV gives the proper sense to Acts 3:26

26 When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways.”

The word bless here is crucial to understand, its the word verb eulogeó and means:

(lit: I speak well of) I bless; pass: I am blessed,properly, to speak (reason) which confers benefit; hence, bless.

In other words to bless both in Gen 12:3 and Acts 3:26 means the conferring of a benefit upon ! Or to bestow it upon them !

Its speaking of the Application of the Benefits of Christ's Death; Thats what being blessed means, Christ Himself is responsible for the application of the Merits of His death to those He died for, which application turns them away from their sins, or wickedness or evil ways.

And that's part of the Blessing of the Reconciliation that Christ accomplished by His Death ! Christ in it is actually active in turning those He died for from sin. So He completely saves [reconciles] His People from their sins Matt 1:21 !

 

[brightfame52]

Shall be saved by His/ their Life !

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

When it is promised that those who were reconciled to God while they were enemies, by the Death of God's Son Christ, and being those reconciled, they shall be saved by His Life; We must understand that His Life is theirs's also, for He neither died or rose again as an private person, hence He rose from the dead as their Head and Representative, as the Head of the Church, His Body Col 1:18

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Yes, again, He rose from the dead as the Head of the Body, the Church; so that's why His Life is their life, He lives from the dead they shall live from the dead.

It's guaranteed that they shall be saved by His Life, the Life of their Head. Jesus speaking to His Church Jn 14:19

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

Jesus here is speaking to members and representatives of His body the Church, His disciples. Yes at this time when He spoke those words they did believe on Him already, but many more[of the Body] shall believe on Him through their word Jn 17:20

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

And they shall believe because He Lives as their risen Head and Saviour to give them their share of His Life for them 1 Cor 15:45

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

As with adam they received from him physical life as he was their head, so too with Christ as their Risen Head they shall receive Life from Him, so all for whom He died shall be saved by His/their Life, for Christ is their Life Col 3:4

When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

And that's why they shall be saved by His/ their Life Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 4

 

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Shall be saved by His/ their Life !cont


Shall be saved by His Life ! What exactly does this mean ? To be saved here in Rom 5:10 is conversion, its to be saved from the power of sin like here Acts 26:18

18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

So it means to be saved from the power of sin or satan, but what it does not mean is being saved from the penalty of sin, no that comes exclusively by the blood or death of Christ; Thats why it is said of them right before that promise [they shall be saved by His Life] it reads that they had been reconciled to God by His death, while they were being enemies or unconverted. Yes, one can be saved from the penalty of their sins by forgiveness through His Blood, without being saved from the power of sin yet. The saved here in Rom 5:10 is that Salvation God's Elect experience through the Sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth 2 Thess 2:13 and that of Titus 3:5; however having been saved from the penalty of sin must precede being saved from its power.

All those Christ died for are always saved from the penalty of sin and from the legal guilt of it Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

3 God’s Son has all the brightness of God’s own glory and is like him in every way. By his own mighty word, he holds the universe together.

After the Son had washed away our sins, he sat down at the right side of the glorious God in heaven.CEV

They are saved from the penalty of sin even while they themselves are dead in trespasses and sins, but however they are ensured to be delivered or saved from the power of sin by Christ's Life.

So the sequence is saved from the penalty first, then saved from the power of sin, and one day shall they be saved from the very presence of sin !4

 

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Shall be saved by His/ their Life !cont 3

They all shall live whom He died for and redeemed. Redemption is from death Hosea 13:14

I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

The devil had the power of death Heb 2:14

Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

Through Christ's Death, all for whom He died have been delivered/redeemed from death, to include Spiritual Death. If Christ's death does not deliver from spiritual death, we would ever remain spiritually dead.

You see death is the wages of sin, but by Redemption all sins have been taken and forgiven. He obtained Eternal Redemption for us, those He died for Heb 9:12

12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

The word redemption lytrōsis means:

deliverance, esp. from the penalty of sin

Again the penalty of sin is death Rom 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

By Christ's death all for whom He died have been delivered from the wages of sin, which is death, and therefore for Christ's Sake should be awarded Life, and that more abundantly.

If all for whom Christ died do not receive New Life because of being delivered from the penalty of sins by His Death, then His death was not redemptive at all. 4

 

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Reconciliation is Salvation ! 2

Many today refuse to acknowledge that the Reconciliation of the Cross of Christ of all those He died for is their Salvation. Yes Rom 5:10 actually informs us that all for whom Christ died shall be saved.

The reconciliation here informs us that those reconciled to God by Christ's death shall also be saved by being brought back into a relationship of fellowship with God. Thats what being saved entails, it means as well as other things [like saved from the penalty of sin] it means also to bring into the Fellowship with God and the Lord Jesus Christ. All those Christ died for are at first by nature alienated from the Life of God, estranged from Him, dead in trespasses and sins, and are enemies in their minds towards God by wicked works, but the Death of Christ, effects reconciliation of them to God as taught here Col 1:21-22

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Notice here Paul says that they had been reconciled from a state of being at enmity in their minds by wicked works, that they had been reconciled out of that How ? In the Body of His flesh through Death ! That is the same Death Paul mentions here Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Now I challenge anyone to prove that Christ's Death here in Rom 5:10 that Paul focuses on is not the same one in Col 1:22 that Paul focuses on.

This proves from scripture that Christ's death in and of itself saves them He died for and puts them into a right relationship and fellowship with God.

To deny this is to simply deny the Cross of Christ, which constitutes an unbeliever. A believer does not and cannot deny that the Cross of Christ saved those He died for. 5