There is a difference between God repenting for someone, and God giving repentance to someone which causes them to repent.
Reconciled to God while enemies !
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God/Christ gives repentance or conversion, that is causes it by giving a new heart, its a covenant blessing,
Ezk 36:26-27
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Ezk 36:26-27
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Were you responding to what I said? Let me put it to you this way. If Christ preaches "Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand" this is a call to action. Christ doesn't repent FOR them. They must repent themselves. Understand?
Agreed. But the text doesn't say that he caused them to repent, does it? No. As we do our Bible study, let's pay attention to the wording.
2 Cor 5:19 Preaching Reconciliation cont
I have shown from scripture that the Word of Reconciliation does include non imputation of sin 2 Cor 5:19, which means all those reconciled to God by the death of His Son are born into this world, yes as sinners by nature and depraved and enemies to God, but with no sin legally charged unto them ! They have a clean slate before God. Now for the next Gospel point of reconciliation and non imputation, it also means for those reconciled remission or forgiveness of sins, Notice Rom 4:7
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
The word forgiven here in the greek means this:
"to send away, set free;" also "to let alone," To be cancelled !
The idea is also that their sin debt to God's Law and Justice has been covered ! They are no longer in the face of God with regard to punishment due unto them !
Now Vs 8 helps clarify Vs 7, that is sins are forgiven and cancelled, and covered because they are not charged to them, because they are or have been charged to their Surety, the Lord Jesus Christ.
In light of this, the Reconciled world of 2 Cor 5:19, this Blessed World that the Lord WILL NOT IMPUTE SIN, is a forgiven World, the sins and trespasses of this World are covered !
So let it be known that the Reconciled World of 2 Cor 5:19; Rom 5:10a is a blessed, forgiven and justified World ! And for any to appeal to this verse to prove that Christ died for all without exception, they are guilty of wresting the scripture, and showing their willful ignorance of the Truth of the Gospel !
I have shown from scripture that the Word of Reconciliation does include non imputation of sin 2 Cor 5:19, which means all those reconciled to God by the death of His Son are born into this world, yes as sinners by nature and depraved and enemies to God, but with no sin legally charged unto them ! They have a clean slate before God. Now for the next Gospel point of reconciliation and non imputation, it also means for those reconciled remission or forgiveness of sins, Notice Rom 4:7
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
The word forgiven here in the greek means this:
"to send away, set free;" also "to let alone," To be cancelled !
The idea is also that their sin debt to God's Law and Justice has been covered ! They are no longer in the face of God with regard to punishment due unto them !
Now Vs 8 helps clarify Vs 7, that is sins are forgiven and cancelled, and covered because they are not charged to them, because they are or have been charged to their Surety, the Lord Jesus Christ.
In light of this, the Reconciled world of 2 Cor 5:19, this Blessed World that the Lord WILL NOT IMPUTE SIN, is a forgiven World, the sins and trespasses of this World are covered !
So let it be known that the Reconciled World of 2 Cor 5:19; Rom 5:10a is a blessed, forgiven and justified World ! And for any to appeal to this verse to prove that Christ died for all without exception, they are guilty of wresting the scripture, and showing their willful ignorance of the Truth of the Gospel !
Connect the dots means to harmonize GW, a lifelong task that is enjoyable for TSers.
For example, just this past Sunday I noticed what might be the chapter most hated by tulipists,
because it indicates God's condition for salvation ten times by saying the IF word.
You deceived my friendConnect the dots means to harmonize GW, a lifelong task that is enjoyable for TSers.
For example, just this past Sunday I noticed what might be the chapter most hated by tulipists,
because it indicates God's condition for salvation ten times by saying the IF word.
I'm having serious computer storage problems, so I'll have to make this a quick version.
First, you shouldn't take it upon yourself to discard any part of the parable. It was spoken by Jesus and all of it is important -
each and every word is there for a reason and contributes to its message, nothing in it is insignificant or to be ignored.
The debt of the servant of the parable is very important to its real world message because it demonstrates the servant was of the unsaved - had he been saved, he would not have been sent to the tormentors because through Christ, he would have had no debt whatsoever remaining and the "till" condition (below) satisfied and further nothing "due". That he was sent, tells us that the servant still had debt (sin) remaining, and so as unsaved, he could be sent as shown in the folllowing verse.
[Mat 18:34 KJV] 34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
The parable also informs of an important attribute of true believers: they forgive one another through/because of the offering/sacrifice of Christ which governs their actions but which the unsaved will not do: their motivation is of the law, not grace, with their actions guided accordingly. Jesus's concern was not the spiritual state of the slave, given that he was unsaved - He cares only about the actions of His saved/elect - He was edifying them as to how they should conduct themselves - that the unsaved will never act in the same way and will always revert back to law. Seeing that law and not mercy and grace were the basis of the servant's actions, his lord therefore judged him according to the law and sent him to the tormentors. For those who become saved, however, through Christ, their hearts become changed unto mercy and grace and which they willingly impart to their brethren, demonstrated by them as forgiveness of sin through Christ alone and not by law, and that is the point of this parable:
[Mat 18:35 KJV] 35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
When we share our interpretations here, we’re opening ourselves to the wisdom of the whole body of Christ. Fellow believers may ask questions, offer clarifications, or point out things we missed. That kind of engagement is not a threat to our dignity but a gift to our understanding. It sharpens us, protects us from blind spots, and helps us grow in humility and truth.
Because of that, let’s keep our conversations focused on **ideas** rather than on the people expressing them. Critiquing an argument is healthy; attacking a person is not. Ad hominem comments shut down learning, discourage participation, and distract from the Scriptures we’re all trying to understand together.
So let’s continue to speak with grace, listen with patience, and correct one another with gentleness. If we do that, this board becomes a place where iron truly sharpens iron and where every voice can contribute to our shared pursuit of Christ.
While what you say is true, that isn't the point of the parable. Sometimes Jesus will include the salient point in his parable, and in this case, he does.
Matthew 18:32-33
Then summoning him, his lord *said to him, ‘You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?’
Here, the Lord highlights the problem. The slave who owed much was not willing to forgive little. For that reason, his Lord sent him to the debtor's prison.
The Lord also emphatically gives the conclusion of that matter -- the moral if you will.
Matthew 18:35
"My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart.”
There is nothing in the parable to suggest the qualifications that you suggest. He doesn't limit his words to believers or nonbelievers. He doesn't limit his words to "saved" or "unsaved". The parable is intended to illustrate the Father's perspective on forgiveness, including the possibility that it can be revoked. An unwillingness to forgive others can result in punishment from God.
See post 110 qnd 151 and we can discuss, and I will take questions in regard to them
Again, your argument in 151 is illogical because you fail to recognize that it takes two parties to reconcile with each other. Just because God (the first party) was reconciling with the world through Jesus Christ doesn't mean that the world (the second party) was reconciled with God. All it means is that God provided the means to be reconciled with God but an individual must accept that provision by repenting and believing in his Son.
Your argument in 110 is faulty because it is based on an incorrect interpretation of Romans 5:10. As I argued before, your interpretation of 5:10 is incorrect because Paul is talking about those who were enemies when Christ died on the cross. That isn't referring to us because we weren't alive when Christ died on the cross.