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JohnB

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"For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places . " Ephesians 6:12

When I hear experts and pundits talk about how the courts or politicians will rule on an issue, I say it will go the way these powers want it to go. The courts and politicians are not in charge. They are the pawns of higher powers. when they talk about how the politicians or courts would not cut Social Security, Medicare or food stamps, it's not in their hands. GOD will decide that. If GOD wants to bring down a country, he can cut off their economy and there's nothing anyone can do. The courts and politicians will make stupid decisions and the higher powers will tell them to do it.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst, pray for GOD's leading.
 

Gideon300

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"For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places . " Ephesians 6:12

When I hear experts and pundits talk about how the courts or politicians will rule on an issue, I say it will go the way these powers want it to go. The courts and politicians are not in charge. They are the pawns of higher powers. when they talk about how the politicians or courts would not cut Social Security, Medicare or food stamps, it's not in their hands. GOD will decide that. If GOD wants to bring down a country, he can cut off their economy and there's nothing anyone can do. The courts and politicians will make stupid decisions and the higher powers will tell them to do it.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst, pray for GOD's leading.
God's punishment is to leave people to do as they please. Romans 1:18-30 tells us the results of this, including, (28) "Furthermore, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, He gave them up to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done."

There has been a steady decline in the Western world since at least the 1960's. Britain never really recovered from WW2. But it's far worse now than the country I left in 1964. America has steadily gone downhill since the 60's. God never honours rebellion. The church could, and should have stopped the rot (since we are "salt", a preservative), but we have failed. Australia is no better, but has not as far to fall because it was not spiritually at the same level. Even so, we also have gone downhill since the 1970's.

Yes, God has the final say. We who are born again can intercede for our nations. We need to get our own house in order before God will respond. (2 Chronicles 7:14) There are signs in America of revival. That is wonderful, but will anything substantially change?

Job 12:22-24

"…He reveals the deep things of darkness and brings deep shadows into light. He makes nations great and destroys them; He enlarges nations, then disperses them. He deprives the earth’s leaders of reason and makes them wander in a trackless wasteland.…"
 

JohnB

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God's punishment is to leave people to do as they please. Romans 1:18-30 tells us the results of this, including, (28) "Furthermore, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, He gave them up to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done."

There has been a steady decline in the Western world since at least the 1960's. Britain never really recovered from WW2. But it's far worse now than the country I left in 1964. America has steadily gone downhill since the 60's. God never honours rebellion. The church could, and should have stopped the rot (since we are "salt", a preservative), but we have failed. Australia is no better, but has not as far to fall because it was not spiritually at the same level. Even so, we also have gone downhill since the 1970's.

Yes, God has the final say. We who are born again can intercede for our nations. We need to get our own house in order before God will respond. (2 Chronicles 7:14) There are signs in America of revival. That is wonderful, but will anything substantially change?

Job 12:22-24

"…He reveals the deep things of darkness and brings deep shadows into light. He makes nations great and destroys them; He enlarges nations, then disperses them. He deprives the earth’s leaders of reason and makes them wander in a trackless wasteland.…"
Even if Noah, Daniel, and Job were there, their righteousness would save no one but themselves, says the Sovereign LORD. Ezekiel 14:14
 

shittim

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His plan to redeem His creation is going forward, the focus is on Israel, not the U.S.
Should He choose to restore the U.S. in spite of our wickedness and disobedience, it will be for the prayers of the remnant of true believers.:):unsure:(y)
 

mailmandan

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His plan to redeem His creation is going forward, the focus is on Israel, not the U.S.
Should He choose to restore the U.S. in spite of our wickedness and disobedience, it will be for the prayers of the remnant of true believers.:):unsure:(y)
Sometimes I wonder if the main reason America has not yet been destroyed is because we support Israel. Once America completely turns it's back on Israel then all bets are off!
 

shittim

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Indeed, that has been the only reason, He has been clear that He will bless those who bless the Jews, and He will curse those who curse the Jews.
we of the remnant must stay in prayer and live that these prayers are effectual.
:)
 

shittim

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looks from here like B.O. is running the ccp destruction of the west.
 

Mem

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We wait for a Kingdom, and this is why we wrestle, and will continue to wrestle, with 'principalities' and powers that are not of our King.
 

Gideon300

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Even if Noah, Daniel, and Job were there, their righteousness would save no one but themselves, says the Sovereign LORD. Ezekiel 14:14
Israel had fallen a long way when Ezekiel was ministering. It may be the same for the Western world now. Britain once had the greatest empire since Rome. Queen Victoria picked up a Bible and said, "It is this book that has made Britain great". Two world wars destroyed the British empire and economy. Britain is barely recognisable now. America is going downhill as is much of Europe. And yes, Australia.
 

montana123

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"For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places . " Ephesians 6:12

When I hear experts and pundits talk about how the courts or politicians will rule on an issue, I say it will go the way these powers want it to go. The courts and politicians are not in charge. They are the pawns of higher powers. when they talk about how the politicians or courts would not cut Social Security, Medicare or food stamps, it's not in their hands. GOD will decide that. If GOD wants to bring down a country, he can cut off their economy and there's nothing anyone can do. The courts and politicians will make stupid decisions and the higher powers will tell them to do it.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst, pray for GOD's leading.
The reason the higher wicked powers can manipulate people in the government is because they are evil people that will heed that wickedness.

Which the higher wicked powers like to influence the wicked people in government because it causes more people to embrace falsehood instead of the truth because the wicked people in government will push those wicked ways influencing many people.

The Democrats, liberals, are an example of that as they embrace wickedness, and lifestyles contrary to the ways of God.

The Bible says some shall depart from the faith of the Bible giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.

Again the Democrats which are the top leaders as they follow the new age movement interpretation of the Bible.

They believe in evolution, and no God, so they embrace the new age movement that interprets the Bible according to evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual, and there is no God.

That is their religion, and reality.

The Democrat top leaders are intentionally following Lucifer and not being deceived but doing it intentionally where some higher places in society are not doing it intentionally.

So the top leaders of the Democrats will really be wicked in what they do.
 

JohnB

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The reason the higher wicked powers can manipulate people in the government is because they are evil people that will heed that wickedness.

Which the higher wicked powers like to influence the wicked people in government because it causes more people to embrace falsehood instead of the truth because the wicked people in government will push those wicked ways influencing many people.

The Democrats, liberals, are an example of that as they embrace wickedness, and lifestyles contrary to the ways of God.

The Bible says some shall depart from the faith of the Bible giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.

Again the Democrats which are the top leaders as they follow the new age movement interpretation of the Bible.

They believe in evolution, and no God, so they embrace the new age movement that interprets the Bible according to evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual, and there is no God.

That is their religion, and reality.

The Democrat top leaders are intentionally following Lucifer and not being deceived but doing it intentionally where some higher places in society are not doing it intentionally.

So the top leaders of the Democrats will really be wicked in what they do.
With the war now going on in Israel, I think we have more important things to talk about.
 

ZNP

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The reason the higher wicked powers can manipulate people in the government is because they are evil people that will heed that wickedness.

Which the higher wicked powers like to influence the wicked people in government because it causes more people to embrace falsehood instead of the truth because the wicked people in government will push those wicked ways influencing many people.

The Democrats, liberals, are an example of that as they embrace wickedness, and lifestyles contrary to the ways of God.

The Bible says some shall depart from the faith of the Bible giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.

Again the Democrats which are the top leaders as they follow the new age movement interpretation of the Bible.

They believe in evolution, and no God, so they embrace the new age movement that interprets the Bible according to evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual, and there is no God.

That is their religion, and reality.

The Democrat top leaders are intentionally following Lucifer and not being deceived but doing it intentionally where some higher places in society are not doing it intentionally.

So the top leaders of the Democrats will really be wicked in what they do.
Yes, we should all realize that War has a silver lining, and by that I mean there are those who get rich and powerful over war. The whole world lies in the Evil one, he can manipulate them into a war that serves his purposes.

For example,

If the world leaders are centered in Europe they can manipulate the US, Russia and China into a war that will destroy each other, leaving Europe standing atop the heap of collapse.

When you look at the carnage, destruction, and loss of life remember that for those who are sociopaths this is simply the cost of doing business and what they see is the ability to buy up assets at a tiny fraction of the cost and to make people willing to give them absolute power in exchange for peace.

Because of the Bible telling us about what is going to happen and since there are billions of Bibles around the world you need a very dire situation to get the whole world to agree to the Mark of the Beast.