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What about the 1/2 of Jerusalem that will be ravaged during the Tribulation? Zech 14.
Behold, a day is coming for the LORD, when the spoil taken from you will be divided in your midst. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women raped. Half of the city shall go out into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations as when he fights on a day of battle.
(Zec 14:1-3)
In the whole land, declares the LORD, two thirds shall be cut off and perish, and one third shall be left alive.
(Zec 13:8)
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God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he appeals to God against Israel? "Lord, they have killed your prophets, they have demolished your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life." But what is God's reply to him? "I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal." So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace.
(Rom 11:2-5)
Behold, a day is coming for the LORD, when the spoil taken from you will be divided in your midst. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women raped. Half of the city shall go out into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations as when he fights on a day of battle.
(Zec 14:1-3)
In the whole land, declares the LORD, two thirds shall be cut off and perish, and one third shall be left alive.
(Zec 13:8)
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God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he appeals to God against Israel? "Lord, they have killed your prophets, they have demolished your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life." But what is God's reply to him? "I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal." So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace.
(Rom 11:2-5)
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In the whole land, declares the LORD, two thirds shall be cut off and perish, and one third shall be left alive.And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call upon my name, and I will answer them. I will say, 'They are my people'; and they will say, 'The LORD is my God.'"
(Zec 13:8-9)
It means God will refine His remnant. Remember not all physical Israel are Israel (those Israelites of faith are).
(Zec 13:8-9)
It means God will refine His remnant. Remember not all physical Israel are Israel (those Israelites of faith are).
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Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Spiritual Israel is the children of the promise.
Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Spiritual Israel is the children of the promise.
Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
I think we have been over this a dozen times.
First of all Gentile is not mentioned. All that Paul is saying in 9:6 is that not all the physical descendants of Abraham had the faith of Abraham. Just like not all descendants of Abraham were of Israel (e.g. Ishmael, Esau)
Gal 4:28 says we are the Children of promise for we enter into the blessings of Abraham but it never says we are Israelites.
First of all Gentile is not mentioned. All that Paul is saying in 9:6 is that not all the physical descendants of Abraham had the faith of Abraham. Just like not all descendants of Abraham were of Israel (e.g. Ishmael, Esau)
Gal 4:28 says we are the Children of promise for we enter into the blessings of Abraham but it never says we are Israelites.
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I believe the Jews are Gods chosen people. I believe Gods promises to Israel are still for today.I do not believe the church has replaced Israel. The continual discussion is because of things I am reading from other posters here that are antisemitic.One person in particular. Christians down through history have persecuted the Jews and those who believe the replacement heresy are doing satans job for him. Those who bless the Jews will be blessed... Its important in the light of current events in Israel and Russia moving into place that Christians understand the importance of Israel. As far as worship of the Jews remember that Jesus was Jewish, the Patriarchs were Jewish,the disciples were Jewish. Without the Jews we have no manger and no cross. So I dont worship Jews, but I love the Jews. Some of the posts I read here I see an animosity toward the Jews. We preach love to everyone here,people say dont judge and yet when the subject of the Jews comes up people suddenly forget that they were preaching love and tolerance on another thread. Hope you now understand where I am coming from.
Wasn't Rahab Gentile? She became an ancestor of Jesus 
My point is that is not the position of the Church which constitutes ONE NEW MAN, neither Jew nor Gentile, the wall of partition was broken.
Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called "the uncircumcision" by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands—remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near.
(Eph 2:11-17)
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So in your opinion, the criteria for being a spiritual Israelite is to have the faith of Abraham and be from the Jewish bloodline.
It's like your totally ignoring verse 7 and 8. Those two verses explain verse 6. Spiritual Israel is the children of the promise... which includes me.
Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Galatians says that I am a child of the promise... I am like Isaac.
Gal_4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
It's like your totally ignoring verse 7 and 8. Those two verses explain verse 6. Spiritual Israel is the children of the promise... which includes me.
Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Galatians says that I am a child of the promise... I am like Isaac.
Gal_4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
