"replacement theology" - what is it?
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Do you understand the difference between words linked with causing murder and those just of
expressing an opinion on a subject. It is as if speaking them does not make you guilty of the
murders spoken by many through history as they butchered another
innocent.
The words themselves once accepted are the same as the actions they lead to.
If you say a person is evil because of the race or family they are born into, and you commit to
murder them, these words become the same as the murder that follows.
This is what the Nazi's did. They said the jews were not human, rats to be eliminated. People
thought it is just exagerated language, for impact, they would never actually do it. But they did
do it, because nobody in a true sense stood up to the words, and demolished them as the evil that
would lead to the actions that came after.
And emotionally this scape goating is part of being psychotic. It makes the individual feel happy
about themselves while wishing terrible things on others, which they justify by making in their
mind the targets of this hatred terribly evil.
I had to stop talking to someone I knew when I understood who they supported. It was so wrong
there was no point even spending time with them because they had left normal social understanding.
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1 Chronicles 5
The sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel. (He was the firstborn, but because he defiled his father’s bed his birthright was given to the sons of Joseph son of Israel, so that he is not enrolled in the genealogy according to the birthright; 2 though Judah became prominent among his brothers and a ruler came from him, yet the birthright belonged to Joseph.)
The sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel. (He was the firstborn, but because he defiled his father’s bed his birthright was given to the sons of Joseph son of Israel, so that he is not enrolled in the genealogy according to the birthright; 2 though Judah became prominent among his brothers and a ruler came from him, yet the birthright belonged to Joseph.)
Because of your stand here, I know you are my enemy. And I also know whatever I say will
mean nothing to you, so saying I have zero credibility with you, was where I knew you already
were. The thing about this poison, is it is like being in a burning building, and knowing someone
is lost though they can speak. If you get too close you too will be washed away.
But I need to warn others of were the road of death leads, and once trapped here there is no
way out.
I take it as a literal prophecy. The Northern kingdom was chewed up and spat out by God. Assyrians invaded 721BC or thereabouts....
After that Judah took the name of Israel, as Israel under Ephraim had been literally divorced by God.
The Assyrians attacked Jerusalem circa....680BC(?) and then the Babylonian Empire took them captive 605BC.....so the young lion had grown up by then...to continue the analogy
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Spurge if you keep reading on into Hosea 6, it's a continuation of Hosea 5. If this happened in 721 BC how does "After two days he will revive us and in the third day he will raise us up and we shall live in his sight" fit into 721 BC?
Hosea 6:1-2 KJV
Come, and let us return unto the Lord : for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. [2] After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
Scratches head....at a guess.
Hosea 5 describes the work of two lions, ripping and tearing.
So all the tearing finished AD73 with the end of Judah.
It started 721BC, but the work of both lions finished AD73..
Come, let us return to the Lord;
for it is he who has torn, and he will heal us;
he has struck down, and he will bind us up.
But I honestly don't know. It could mean that 2000 years after AD73 something happens. 2000 prophetic years is 1971 solar years
= 2044
But honestly, no idea KJV
Hosea 5 describes the work of two lions, ripping and tearing.
So all the tearing finished AD73 with the end of Judah.
It started 721BC, but the work of both lions finished AD73..
Come, let us return to the Lord;
for it is he who has torn, and he will heal us;
he has struck down, and he will bind us up.
But I honestly don't know. It could mean that 2000 years after AD73 something happens. 2000 prophetic years is 1971 solar years
= 2044
But honestly, no idea KJV
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The Chinese weren't any one people group. People would've migrated to China not long after the dispersion at the city and the tower of Babel (at the most, maybe a couple of centuries after). Shem, Ham and Japheth's children probably didn't marry their own brothers and sisters, but married their cousins. Therefore, most of those present at Babel (all of humanity) would have the blood of all three brothers: Shem, Ham and Japheth coursing through their veins. As for what happened after the scattering of the nations, we know Shem's descendants largely stayed in Mesopotamia, while Ham's descendants largely headed west into Egypt and the rest of Africa. Japheth's descendants travelled into Europe and east into Asia and beyond. But some of Shem's descendants also went east into Asia. So it's quite likely that the Chinese are a post-Babel mix of Shem and Japheth.
Hosea 5:14-15 KJV
For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him.
[15] I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.
Part of it is 70 AD and part of it is 2000 years later because the verse says he will tear them and then go back to the place he came from.... the right hand of the Father. So the "tearing" took place first, then Christ returns to the Father and during that 2000 year period Ephraim and Judah will acknowledge their offence and seek God's face.
Hosea 6:1-2 KJV
Come, and let us return unto the Lord : for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
[2] After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
After 2 days (2000 years) have passed and Christ has returned, at some time during the third day which would be the milennium, God will resurrect their dead bodies, the ones that acknowledge their offence, and they will live in his sight.
OR
After 2000 years have passed and Christ has returned, at some time during the milennium, Israel will be restored to a right relationship with God and they will live in his sight. In other words the times of the Gentiles is over.
I think the later is right.
There has been a lot of Israel bashing on this thread..
I think this will put the fact to rest that Israel is God's people and will always be.
Ezekiel 36: 16-21 (KJV)
"16 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
17 Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
18 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:
19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the Lord, and are gone forth out of his land.
21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went."
Yet in 1948 he brought them back to their land and in 1967 he gave them back their holy city, Jerusalem. Now all is left to do is give them back the Holy Mount and let them build a Temple and Holy of Holies to their God. It is coming and was foretold in Daniel 9:27
I think this will put the fact to rest that Israel is God's people and will always be.
Ezekiel 36: 16-21 (KJV)
"16 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
17 Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
18 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:
19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the Lord, and are gone forth out of his land.
21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went."
Yet in 1948 he brought them back to their land and in 1967 he gave them back their holy city, Jerusalem. Now all is left to do is give them back the Holy Mount and let them build a Temple and Holy of Holies to their God. It is coming and was foretold in Daniel 9:27
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Blade I hope you realize that in verse 20 God said THEY PROFANED HIS HOLY NAME when they told the heathen "THESE ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE LORD".
In simple English.... Israel told the heathen "We are the people of the Lord". God said that by CLAIMING to be his people, they PROFANED God's holy name.
Ezekiel 36:20 KJV
And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the Lord , and are gone forth out of his land.
I've read that the new temple will be built beside the dome of the rock, and that there will be a Christian building too.. trouble is I can't remember where or who I've read this. I read a lot.
Ezekiel: a profane building right up against the temple
“And the house of Israel will not again defile My holy name…by setting their threshold by My threshold and their door post against My doorpost, with only the wall between Me and them.” Ezekiel 42:7,8.
In Ezekiel, God condemns the fact that only a wall will separate the holy temple from other profane religious structures. Evidently this is a prophecy about the Dome of the Rock that will sit right next to the Jewish temple building. I don’t think this has been true of the temple area before, that pagan structures shared the mount with a Jewish temple, so it must be a prophecy about the Tribulation period. The temple that the Lord Jesus will build when He returns will correct this abomination.
Ezekiel: “foreigners” in charge of the sanctuary
When the temple is rebuilt, Gentiles will still be in charge of the Temple Mount area: “But you have set foreigners to keep charge of my sanctuary.” Ezekiel 44:8. This has never been the case during the history of Israel, that non Jews were given charge of the temple area and even the temple itself, so this has to be a reference to the Tribulation temple. Jordan’s Waqf, the Muslim authority who are in charge of the Temple Mount today, may be the “foreigners” Ezekiel was talking about. They may hold sovereign control even over the Jewish temple.
A temple for the antichrist and abomination of desolation
The antichrist will sit on the Temple Mount as god in the name of Satan.
But you said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, and I will sit on the mount of assembly...” Isaiah 14:13.
Israel will enter into a seven year covenant with the beast to reinstate worship in the temple.
“And he (the beast) will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week, he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.” Daniel 9:27.
Temple covenant brokered by the antichrist
A compromise between the Muslims and the Jews may be brokered by the antichrist who will make a covenant with the Jews to allow them to reinstate worship and sacrifices in their own temple for seven years. This may be as much of a lease agreement as a peace treaty. The false prophet, a ally of the antichrist, will be widely believed to be Elijah, which will give him the authority, according to some Jewish scholars, to authorize the building of the third temple. Muslims may also accept the antichrist as the Mahdi (a Muslim messiah) and so he could persuade them to let a temple be built on the Temple Mount. Of course the antichrist will break the covenant after 3 ½ years and take over Israel, seating himself in the temple as god and setting up an image there to be worshipped by all the world, the infamous abomination of desolation.
Found this with a google search though not the article I read.
“And the house of Israel will not again defile My holy name…by setting their threshold by My threshold and their door post against My doorpost, with only the wall between Me and them.” Ezekiel 42:7,8.
In Ezekiel, God condemns the fact that only a wall will separate the holy temple from other profane religious structures. Evidently this is a prophecy about the Dome of the Rock that will sit right next to the Jewish temple building. I don’t think this has been true of the temple area before, that pagan structures shared the mount with a Jewish temple, so it must be a prophecy about the Tribulation period. The temple that the Lord Jesus will build when He returns will correct this abomination.
Ezekiel: “foreigners” in charge of the sanctuary
When the temple is rebuilt, Gentiles will still be in charge of the Temple Mount area: “But you have set foreigners to keep charge of my sanctuary.” Ezekiel 44:8. This has never been the case during the history of Israel, that non Jews were given charge of the temple area and even the temple itself, so this has to be a reference to the Tribulation temple. Jordan’s Waqf, the Muslim authority who are in charge of the Temple Mount today, may be the “foreigners” Ezekiel was talking about. They may hold sovereign control even over the Jewish temple.
A temple for the antichrist and abomination of desolation
The antichrist will sit on the Temple Mount as god in the name of Satan.
But you said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, and I will sit on the mount of assembly...” Isaiah 14:13.
Israel will enter into a seven year covenant with the beast to reinstate worship in the temple.
“And he (the beast) will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week, he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.” Daniel 9:27.
Temple covenant brokered by the antichrist
A compromise between the Muslims and the Jews may be brokered by the antichrist who will make a covenant with the Jews to allow them to reinstate worship and sacrifices in their own temple for seven years. This may be as much of a lease agreement as a peace treaty. The false prophet, a ally of the antichrist, will be widely believed to be Elijah, which will give him the authority, according to some Jewish scholars, to authorize the building of the third temple. Muslims may also accept the antichrist as the Mahdi (a Muslim messiah) and so he could persuade them to let a temple be built on the Temple Mount. Of course the antichrist will break the covenant after 3 ½ years and take over Israel, seating himself in the temple as god and setting up an image there to be worshipped by all the world, the infamous abomination of desolation.
Found this with a google search though not the article I read.
Ezekiel's temple is under construction right now. It has nothing to do with the dome of the rock or Jerusalem period. Ezekiel's temple is the true temple of God, it's not a shadow. Ezekiel's temple is the body of Christ.
You're under the assumption that the Revelation 11 temple is Ezkiel's temple, but it's not and this is easily proven. The temple in Revelation was the temple during the time of Christ.
That temple has long been destroyed and Jerusalem was given over to the gentiles to be trodden under their feet. Yes Jerusalem has been trodden under the feet of the Gentiles for the last 2000 years. Rev temple is in the past... it's gone.
That temple was a shadow of the true temple, which is Ezekiel's temple, which is the body of Christ. Which is where we are the PILLARS and LIVELY STONES offering up SPIRITUAL SACRIFICES to the Lord.
OK,,,,what are you trying to tell me..... it simply tells you the history between God and HIS people. Yet the Bible tells us he will bring them Home to him or at least some of them.
Make no mistake these are God's people and you would be better off to leave them alone.
Genesis 12:1-3..."God had told Abram, Leave your own country behind you, and your own people, and go to the land I will guide you to. 2 If you do, I will cause you to become the father of a great nation; I will bless you and make your name famous, and you will be a blessing to many others. 3 I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you; and the entire world will be blessed because of you.”
Put this verse into your own words.
Ezekiel 36:20 KJV
And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the Lord , and are gone forth out of his land.
Kjv611.... Here again, is God's people.
Deuteronomy 7:6-8 (KJV)
6 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
7 The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
8 But because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the Lord brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
And then God tells them that they never be Gentiles eve if they live with the gentiles throughout the world.\
Ezekiel 20:32 (KJV)
32 And that which cometh into your mind shall not be at all, that ye say, We will be as the heathen, as the families of the countries, to serve wood and stone.
Deuteronomy 7:6-8 (KJV)
6 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
7 The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
8 But because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the Lord brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
And then God tells them that they never be Gentiles eve if they live with the gentiles throughout the world.\
Ezekiel 20:32 (KJV)
32 And that which cometh into your mind shall not be at all, that ye say, We will be as the heathen, as the families of the countries, to serve wood and stone.
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