Replacement theology? Yes or No.

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The world has never seen a world wide mark and Commerce dependent on that mark.
The world has never seen a worldwide. Requirement of a tattoo on the forehead or the hand.
No record of flying scorpions with human heads either.

preterist is one of the worst distortions ever invented by "clever" man.

Ahen...."tribulation such as the world has never seen or ever will see"

( several doors leading us out of pretrrism and into bible sanity)
You, like many here, limit your understanding to what you can see. For instance, what is worse than God severing a covenant with a particular people? What is worse than being separated from God? Anything? No. Wouldn't that alone be the worst tribulation ever? Not to mention the physical tribulation that occurred for those in Jerusalem during the 1st century. Check out what the conditions actually were.

Further, like many here, you spend all your time looking at individual trees and never see the forest. I've demonstrated the purpose of both the books of Deuteronomy and Revelation. They are bookend books. One introduces a nation into covenant with God and the other brings it to a close. If you start here, you will get eschatology correct.

I don't know every single actor or event that occurred. I've never met anyone who does. But I do understand why books are written, who they are written to, and where they fit in the purposes and plans of God.
 
False. Already dealt with and debunked conclusively. Try and keep up will you?

The legal paradox surrounding Gomer (Israel), the Law of Moses, and her ultimate redemption centers on Romans 7:1–6, combined with Old Testament prophecy from Hosea and Deuteronomy.

This principle shows how God uses the death of the husband in the New Testament to solve an otherwise legally impossible situation created under the Mosaic Covenant.

1. The Divine Problem: Israel, God, and the Law of Divorce

To understand Paul's argument in Romans 7, you first have to look at the Old Testament marital crisis:

* Israel as the Wife of Jehovah: In Old Testament typology (specifically Hosea 1–3 and Jeremiah 3), Israel is depicted as the wife of Yahweh.
* The Spiritual Adultery (Gomer): Gomer’s unfaithfulness to Hosea mirrors Israel’s idolatry and spiritual adultery against God.
* The Bill of Divorce: Because of her persistent adulteries, God issued Israel a "certificate of divorce" (Jeremiah 3:8, Hosea 2:2).
* The Legal Dilemma (Deuteronomy 24:1–4): Under the Law of Moses, if a man divorces his wife and she goes and belongs to another man, her first husband cannot legally take her back as his wife again after she has been defiled. Doing so was an abomination under the Law.

The Paradox: God promised in the prophets that He would one day remarry Israel in a New Covenant (Hosea 2:19–20, Jeremiah 31:31–34). However, God’s own Law in Deuteronomy 24 forbade Him from taking back His divorced, defiled wife. How could God remain perfectly righteous under His own Law while fulfilling His promise to fully redeem and remarry Israel?

2. Paul’s Legal Solution: The Law of the Husband (Romans 7:1–6)
Paul addresses this exact legal mechanic in Romans 7:1–4:
> "For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband... Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead..."
>
According to Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum’s commentary on Romans 7 (The Believer and the Law of the Husband):
* Death Breaks the Contract: Marriage contracts under Mosaic Law are binding only until death. The death of either spouse legally dissolves the marital covenant and nullifies the prohibitions attached to it.
* The Husband Dies in Christ: Jesus Christ is Jehovah incarnate. By dying on the cross, the "Husband" of the original covenant legally died.
* The Wife Dies in Christ: Furthermore, Israel (and believers collectively) died positional deaths in Christ.
* Legal Release: Because death occurred, the Mosaic Law’s prohibition in Deuteronomy 24 no longer applies. The old marriage covenant was officially rendered null and void by death.

3. The Full and Final Redemption

Because the former legal relationship was terminated by death, God is no longer violating Deuteronomy 24 when He restores Israel:
* Resurrection Means a New Husband: When Christ rose from the dead, He did so in resurrection life as a "New Husband" (or the resurrected Messiah).
* A New Marriage / New Covenant: Israel—reborn through faith in her resurrected Messiah—is now legally free to enter into a New Covenant marriage with Him without violating the Mosaic Law.
In Hosea 3, Hosea buys Gomer back from the slave block—a picture of price paid for redemption. In Paul's NT doctrine, that redemption is legally codified: Christ didn't just pay a ransom price; He fulfilled and terminated the strict legal constraints of the Law of Moses that kept the divorced wife bound.
Please note, in Gomer case, Hosea didn't formally divorced her. Basically given her another chance.
This is the reason in real life, if spouse temporarily sinned, the innocent one should give sinned one chance to repent .
But once divorced, another story.
Det. 24
Luke 16.
Read carefully.
 
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You too buddy.

It is not about denomination. It is about the truth. And the truth will set you free.

On another note, adulteror can not remarry after divorce. Go look it up.

But a born again new person is free to marry. Wonder why? What? How?
What denomination did you say applies to you?
Presbyterian? Reformed?
 
No time like the present friend.
I just posted a devastating rebuttal to your awful Deuteronomy = Revelation thesis.
I suggest that you take some time to synthesize it and make the necessary adjustments, which in your case means scrapping everything and starting over.
You should take your own advice.

Grace and peace.
 
False. Already dealt with and debunked conclusively. Try and keep up will you?

The legal paradox surrounding Gomer (Israel), the Law of Moses, and her ultimate redemption centers on Romans 7:1–6, combined with Old Testament prophecy from Hosea and Deuteronomy.

This principle shows how God uses the death of the husband in the New Testament to solve an otherwise legally impossible situation created under the Mosaic Covenant.

1. The Divine Problem: Israel, God, and the Law of Divorce

To understand Paul's argument in Romans 7, you first have to look at the Old Testament marital crisis:

* Israel as the Wife of Jehovah: In Old Testament typology (specifically Hosea 1–3 and Jeremiah 3), Israel is depicted as the wife of Yahweh.
* The Spiritual Adultery (Gomer): Gomer’s unfaithfulness to Hosea mirrors Israel’s idolatry and spiritual adultery against God.
* The Bill of Divorce: Because of her persistent adulteries, God issued Israel a "certificate of divorce" (Jeremiah 3:8, Hosea 2:2).
* The Legal Dilemma (Deuteronomy 24:1–4): Under the Law of Moses, if a man divorces his wife and she goes and belongs to another man, her first husband cannot legally take her back as his wife again after she has been defiled. Doing so was an abomination under the Law.

The Paradox: God promised in the prophets that He would one day remarry Israel in a New Covenant (Hosea 2:19–20, Jeremiah 31:31–34). However, God’s own Law in Deuteronomy 24 forbade Him from taking back His divorced, defiled wife. How could God remain perfectly righteous under His own Law while fulfilling His promise to fully redeem and remarry Israel?

2. Paul’s Legal Solution: The Law of the Husband (Romans 7:1–6)
Paul addresses this exact legal mechanic in Romans 7:1–4:
> "For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband... Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead..."
>
According to Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum’s commentary on Romans 7 (The Believer and the Law of the Husband):
* Death Breaks the Contract: Marriage contracts under Mosaic Law are binding only until death. The death of either spouse legally dissolves the marital covenant and nullifies the prohibitions attached to it.
* The Husband Dies in Christ: Jesus Christ is Jehovah incarnate. By dying on the cross, the "Husband" of the original covenant legally died.
* The Wife Dies in Christ: Furthermore, Israel (and believers collectively) died positional deaths in Christ.
* Legal Release: Because death occurred, the Mosaic Law’s prohibition in Deuteronomy 24 no longer applies. The old marriage covenant was officially rendered null and void by death.

3. The Full and Final Redemption

Because the former legal relationship was terminated by death, God is no longer violating Deuteronomy 24 when He restores Israel:
* Resurrection Means a New Husband: When Christ rose from the dead, He did so in resurrection life as a "New Husband" (or the resurrected Messiah).
* A New Marriage / New Covenant: Israel—reborn through faith in her resurrected Messiah—is now legally free to enter into a New Covenant marriage with Him without violating the Mosaic Law.
In Hosea 3, Hosea buys Gomer back from the slave block—a picture of price paid for redemption. In Paul's NT doctrine, that redemption is legally codified: Christ didn't just pay a ransom price; He fulfilled and terminated the strict legal constraints of the Law of Moses that kept the divorced wife bound.

I think there might be one missing:

A woman who has been cheated on (the innocent spouse) to can remarry. This permission is primarily based on Jesus’ teaching in Matthew 19:9 and Matthew 5:32, which state that divorcing a spouse for sexual immorality (adultery) is permissible, and that marrying someone who has been divorced for this reason is not considered adultery.
 
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False. Already dealt with and debunked conclusively. Try and keep up will you?

The legal paradox surrounding Gomer (Israel), the Law of Moses, and her ultimate redemption centers on Romans 7:1–6, combined with Old Testament prophecy from Hosea and Deuteronomy.

This principle shows how God uses the death of the husband in the New Testament to solve an otherwise legally impossible situation created under the Mosaic Covenant.

1. The Divine Problem: Israel, God, and the Law of Divorce

To understand Paul's argument in Romans 7, you first have to look at the Old Testament marital crisis:

* Israel as the Wife of Jehovah: In Old Testament typology (specifically Hosea 1–3 and Jeremiah 3), Israel is depicted as the wife of Yahweh.
* The Spiritual Adultery (Gomer): Gomer’s unfaithfulness to Hosea mirrors Israel’s idolatry and spiritual adultery against God.
* The Bill of Divorce: Because of her persistent adulteries, God issued Israel a "certificate of divorce" (Jeremiah 3:8, Hosea 2:2).
* The Legal Dilemma (Deuteronomy 24:1–4): Under the Law of Moses, if a man divorces his wife and she goes and belongs to another man, her first husband cannot legally take her back as his wife again after she has been defiled. Doing so was an abomination under the Law.

The Paradox: God promised in the prophets that He would one day remarry Israel in a New Covenant (Hosea 2:19–20, Jeremiah 31:31–34). However, God’s own Law in Deuteronomy 24 forbade Him from taking back His divorced, defiled wife. How could God remain perfectly righteous under His own Law while fulfilling His promise to fully redeem and remarry Israel?

2. Paul’s Legal Solution: The Law of the Husband (Romans 7:1–6)
Paul addresses this exact legal mechanic in Romans 7:1–4:
> "For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband... Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead..."
>
According to Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum’s commentary on Romans 7 (The Believer and the Law of the Husband):
* Death Breaks the Contract: Marriage contracts under Mosaic Law are binding only until death. The death of either spouse legally dissolves the marital covenant and nullifies the prohibitions attached to it.
* The Husband Dies in Christ: Jesus Christ is Jehovah incarnate. By dying on the cross, the "Husband" of the original covenant legally died.
* The Wife Dies in Christ: Furthermore, Israel (and believers collectively) died positional deaths in Christ.
* Legal Release: Because death occurred, the Mosaic Law’s prohibition in Deuteronomy 24 no longer applies. The old marriage covenant was officially rendered null and void by death.

3. The Full and Final Redemption

Because the former legal relationship was terminated by death, God is no longer violating Deuteronomy 24 when He restores Israel:
Death of the adulterous will work.
Not the death of innocent party.
Read the Bible word by word, don't make up words.
* Resurrection Means a New Husband: When Christ rose from the dead, He did so in resurrection life as a "New Husband" (or the resurrected Messiah).
A new husband still need to marry an innocent wife. Not a divorcee. Look it up.
* A New Marriage / New Covenant: Israel—reborn through faith in her resurrected Messiah—is now legally free to enter into a New Covenant marriage with Him without violating the Mosaic Law.
She need to be born again. Only new person can marry.
Adulteror can't marry anyone, she will drag anyone in to adultery. Look it up.
In Hosea 3, Hosea buys Gomer back from the slave block—a picture of price paid for redemption.
Hosea didn't formerly divorce gomer. Look it up.
In Paul's NT doctrine, that redemption is legally codified: Christ didn't just pay a ransom price; He fulfilled and terminated the strict legal constraints of the Law of Moses that kept the divorced wife bound.
Jesus want us to be born again. Unless one is born again, one can not marry Jesus.
Look it up.!!!!!
 
I think there might be one missing:

A woman who has been cheated on (the innocent spouse) to can remarry. This permission is primarily based on Jesus’ teaching in Matthew 19:9 and Matthew 5:32, which state that divorcing a spouse for sexual immorality (adultery) is permissible, and that marrying someone who has been divorced for this reason is not considered adultery.
Great point.
Innocent party is allowed to re marry.
 
Squatter for 2000 years?
Squatters right? 😄 🤣 😂

If that were true, then they should have waited for God to give it back to them, via the arrival of their Messiah, which is the historic doctrine of the Jews.

But they did not!!
And so called Christians think it is biblical when even the historic position of the Jews was otherwise.
Seriously how gullible can people be... but we know God is not mocked.
 
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There was an argument about Jesus re marry Israel.Because Jesus died, so Jesus can re marry adulteror.

Not true, Jesus as the innocent spouse, he can remarry after official biblical divorce.

However, the adulteror being divorced, can't remarry.

Luke 16
Deuteronomy 24

If a person is born again by holy spirit, a new person is free to marry. Hallelujah!!!
Death of the adulterous will work.
Not the death of innocent party.
Read the Bible word by word, don't make up words.

A new husband still need to marry an innocent wife. Not a divorcee. Look it up.

She need to be born again. Only new person can marry.
Adulteror can't marry anyone, she will drag anyone in to adultery. Look it up.

Hosea didn't formerly divorce gomer. Look it up.

Jesus want us to be born again. Unless one is born again, one can not marry Jesus.
Look it up.!!!!!



1 Corinthians 7:11

But and if she (wife) depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
 
If that were true, then they should have waited for God to give it back to them, via the arrival of their Messiah, which is the historic doctrine of the Jews.

But they did not!!
And co called Christians think it is biblical when even the historic position of the Jews was other wise.
Seriously how gullible can people be... but we know God is not mocked.
Not to mention they are not born again Christians.
A divorced adulterous ex wife is not entitled to former husband s property after 2000 years.

Talking about stealing, robbing.....
 
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That verse works for innocent ex wife.
Luke 16
Deut 24.

Maybe I should have posted two verses together:

1 Corinthians 7:10-11

10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:

11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
 
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There was an argument about Jesus re marry Israel.Because Jesus died, so Jesus can re marry adulteror.

Not true, Jesus as the innocent spouse, he can remarry after official biblical divorce.

However, the adulteror being divorced, can't remarry.
Jesus IS in fact remarrying the formerly divorced Israel. Like it or not. Your denying it will never prevent this from happening.
And the legal mechanism so stated by Paul is fully applicable in the case of Israel.

1. Israel entered a marriage covenant with Jehovah at Sinai.

Jeremiah 31:32 explicitly describes the Mosaic covenant in marital language: Israel broke God's covenant although He was a husband to her.

2. Israel committed spiritual adultery.

Hosea, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Isaiah consistently employ this imagery.

3. God issued Israel a certificate of divorce.

Fruchtenbaum specifically identifies Jeremiah 3:6–10 as this stage.

4. Deuteronomy 24 created an apparent legal obstacle to simply restoring the previous marital arrangement.

This becomes especially significant because Jeremiah 3:1 itself appeals directly to precisely that law. Israel had gone after other “lovers,” yet God nevertheless promises eventual restoration.

5. The solution is not simply the resumption of the old Mosaic marriage.

God does not merely rewind history and put Israel back under Sinai.

Instead:

the Mosaic covenant terminates, Messiah dies, the Law ceases to govern as the covenantal administration, and God establishes a New Covenant.

That is exactly why Jeremiah 31 does not say:

“I will restore the covenant I made at Sinai.”
It says:

“I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah... not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers...”
That is tremendously important.

Fruchtenbaum himself describes Jeremiah 31:31–34 as the new marriage contract necessary for Israel's future remarriage precisely because the first marriage covenant was broken.

Thus the prophetic sequence becomes:

Sinai marriage
→ Israel's adultery
→ separation
→ divorce
→ judgment
→ death of Messiah / termination of Mosaic jurisdiction
→ national repentance
→ New Covenant
→ restored Wife of Jehovah.


And Hosea 2:19–20 fits beautifully:

“I will betroth thee unto me for ever...”
Notice even the language is not merely “I will take back the old marriage exactly as it stood.”

It is “I will betroth you.”

Fruchtenbaum explicitly points to this as the future restoration of Israel as Jehovah's wife.
 
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Well that makes about three of us on here that are well informed.
Praise God for you!!
And what was the Oxford movement all about ? And what works did Darby and Scofield build upon ? Why doesn't everyone trace all this back to its roots ? Is it because both sides of the argument will have egg on their faces? Or is it because both sides will have to outright deny their own history ?

Partially informed to serve an agenda is not well informed. Take it right back to its roots :)