Replacement theology? Yes or No.

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Are there any heirs not according to promise?

Here's a hint:

"But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed."
So tell us: how does that in any way alter the prophetic certainty of the Restoration of the Kingdom to Israel?
 
Yup. His typical gameplay:
-he shows up after being soundly refuted at an earlier point in the thread
-trots out the same worn-out panoply of insipid banal vacuous vague one-liners one after another
-is soundly refuted one after another
-trots out insipid banal vacuous one-liner denials
-is called out as a fraud having denied everything and proven nothing
-takes a vacation for a while
-wash rinse and repeat

FYI, as you well know, the early Church was plagued by those who were trotting out vague and woefully erroneous notions of the Person and nature of Christ salvation and eschatology.

And then they demanded that their vague and woefully erroneous notions should be considered on par with the sound doctrine established by the legitimate scholars and wise men and scribes.

And then they became heretics and started their own "religion" to suit their error.

Some of these people don't even care that they are making fools of themselves. It just goes to show what a sad state some Christians are truly in.

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@cv5, have fun! (cough, cough)

My husband is out of town for the next day or so and I'm going to go shopping and pamper myself for awhile.

Keeping you in my prayers while I'm gone! 😂
 
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What is the relationship between Romans 9 and Romans 11?​

The two chapters should be read together.

Romans 9 explains that God's promises have not failed, even though not every physical descendant of Abraham belongs to the particular line of promise or responds to God in faith.

Romans 10 addresses Israel's unbelief and emphasizes the need for faith and salvation through the Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 11 then addresses the question of whether God has rejected Israel and answers emphatically that He has not.

Paul's argument develops as follows:
  1. Romans 9:6: God's word has not failed.
  2. Romans 9:7–13: God's covenant purposes have always involved His sovereign choice, illustrated through Isaac and Jacob.
  3. Romans 10:1–4: Paul expresses his desire for Israel's salvation and explains the relationship between Israel, righteousness, and Christ.
  4. Romans 11:1: God has not cast away His people.
  5. Romans 11:11: Israel's trespass is not presented as an irrevocable end to God's dealings with them.
  6. Romans 11:25–29: Paul describes Israel's partial hardening, the salvation of all Israel, and God's irrevocable gifts and calling.
This progression matters. If we interpret Romans 9 in a way that contradicts Paul's explicit statement in Romans 11:1, we should reconsider our interpretation.

The bottom line

Romans 9:6–8 is about the faithfulness of God's word and His sovereign fulfillment of His promises. It is not, by itself, a declaration that national Israel has been replaced by the Church.


The immediate example is Isaac, who was chosen to carry the covenant promise despite Abraham having other physical descendants. Paul then develops his argument across Romans 9–11, ultimately declaring that God has not cast away His people and that His gifts and calling are irrevocable.

The most important interpretive principle is this: Do not use Romans 9 to cancel what Paul explicitly teaches in Romans 11. Read both chapters together, preserve the distinctions Paul makes, and let Scripture interpret Scripture.

We must interpret Romans 9 alongside Romans 11, where Paul explicitly asks, "Hath God cast away his people?" and answers, "God forbid" (Romans 11:1). He then explains that Israel has experienced a partial hardening and declares that God's gifts and calling are irrevocable (Romans 11:25–29). Therefore, Romans 9 teaches us that God fulfills His promises according to His sovereign purpose; it does not give us grounds to conclude that God has permanently abandoned Israel or nullified His promises concerning the nation. We must allow Paul's entire argument, especially his explicit statements in Romans 11, to inform our interpretation of Romans 9.
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Thank you and well spoken.

Compare and contrast your superbly comprehensive, reasoned, fully featured EXEGETICAL TREATMENT that is commendably grounded upon the whole counsel of God with the surfacic, trivial, tawdry, insipid, banal, vacuous and vague one-liners proffered by those whose pretensions to exegetical erudition are exceeded only by the breathtaking poverty of their actual contributions

Worse still, their exegetical impoverishment is matched only by their incorrigible arrogance: they disdain correction, repudiate sound instruction, and heap contempt upon those whose understanding exposes the bankruptcy of their own pretensions.
 
Circumcision was THE SIGN of the covenant provided in Genesis 15.

And you thought that it was a "work"?
Pity......🥲

Indeed, it is highly probable that your failure to rightly comprehend this principle stems from your repudiation of all things Jewish.

Fortunately, I do not suffer from the same crippling prejudice.

If you are trying to persuade me of the unconditionality of God's promises to Abraham it might not be too late to correct me.

God sealed all these promises Himself when Abraham was asleep, and in light of this when God says "Every man child among you shall be circumcised" we could justifiably understand this also to be one of those promises.
The fact that Abraham was required to obey does not conflict with the unconditionality of God's prediction, because through God given faith, Abraham DID obey.

The conditional national covenant of Moses is an entirely different covenant to that one however, and is not a continuation of it.
It is the foundation of national Israel, and it has been violated.

The covenant of Abraham does not offer any safety net for the temporal nation to fall on, but those who inherit the faith of Abraham and are obedient to the "condition" of the new covenant (of believing in Jesus) it offers citizenship in the everlasting spiritual nation.
This faith is likewise a gift of God to all who are children of the promise.
 
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If you are trying to persuade me of the unconditionality of God's promises to Abraham it might not be too late to correct me.

God sealed all these promises Himself when Abraham was asleep, and in light of this when God says "Every man child among you shall be circumcised" we could justifiably understand this also to be one of those promises.
The fact that Abraham was required to obey does not conflict with the unconditionality of God's prediction, because through God given faith, Abraham DID obey.

The conditional national covenant of Moses is an entirely different covenant to that one however, and is not a continuation of it.
It is the foundation of national Israel, and it has been violated.

The covenant of Abraham does not offer any safety net for the temporal nation to fall on, but those who inherit the faith of Abraham and are obedient to the "condition" of the new covenant (of believing in Jesus) it offers citizenship in the everlasting spiritual nation.
This faith is likewise a gift of God to all who are children of the promise.
"This faith is likewise a gift of God to all who are children of the promise." Amen, including u, me, ethnic jews, Arabs,...... we are all brothers sisters in Jesus Christ .
We serve an awesome God ! That is true love!!! And only true love we pursue.