Also the light switches. Stay in darkness instead because they are not allowed to flip the switch.
Replacement theology? Yes or No.
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Can you imagine God dictating anything so ridiculous?
As if his people have nothing better to do…
Let's start with the first.
You said ...repentance is the only way to forgiveness....tell that to the theif on the cross. The adultress, or when Jesus siad which is easier to do heal or forgive sin.
Jesus had all authority given to him from the father, it's not about what I or we did it's about what he did. The minute you put i in it you pervert the gospel. It is and always is about what he did. So you base your salvation on merit of repentance?
By grace you are saved through faith and that is not of yourselves. it's a gift of God. So no one can boast.
want to proceed?
You said ...repentance is the only way to forgiveness....tell that to the theif on the cross. The adultress, or when Jesus siad which is easier to do heal or forgive sin.
Jesus had all authority given to him from the father, it's not about what I or we did it's about what he did. The minute you put i in it you pervert the gospel. It is and always is about what he did. So you base your salvation on merit of repentance?
By grace you are saved through faith and that is not of yourselves. it's a gift of God. So no one can boast.
want to proceed?
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.
Yep! Israel is sitting on 1% of the land in the ME, surrounded by enemies on every side. You better believe God is fighting for them. Doesn't matter if you don't.
In the OT? We're not in the OT. Israel is the dry bones coming together. Don't worry about it, God knows what He's doing.
Really and how do you figure that?
Let's start with the first.
You said ...repentance is the only way to forgiveness....tell that to the theif on the cross. The adultress, or when Jesus siad which is easier to do heal or forgive sin.
Jesus had all authority given to him from the father, it's not about what I or we did it's about what he did. The minute you put i in it you pervert the gospel. It is and always is about what he did. So you base your salvation on merit of repentance?
By grace you are saved through faith and that is not of yourselves. it's a gift of God. So no one can boast.
want to proceed?
The thief, in a last minute change of heart, asked Jesus to remember him when he got into his Kingdom….
Jesus promised that he would be ‘with him in paradise’….
Most people misunderstand that encounter….the thief had a change of heart and was repentant. He even rebuked the other thief and said that they were getting what they deserved…he knew Jesus was innocent.
What did Jesus promise him? That he would be with him “in paradise”…not “heaven”.
Jews at that stage had no concept of going to heaven….the earthly paradise is the only one they knew from the garden of Eden….so, as the one who also promised the resurrection (even of the unrighteous), Jesus promised him a resurrection when the Kingdom ruled the earth. (John 5:28-29) That is when this man would see Jesus again….not “that day” but in the future….Jesus was in his tomb for three days before his own resurrection. Misplacement of the comma in that verse changes the whole meaning. Did you know that?
God-fearing said:
As regards the adulteress, I seem to recall that Jesus said “go and sin no more”…(John 8:11) Jesus could read hearts and knew that she was not wicked…..more than likely just weak.
Matt 9:2-5 is the only one I can think of that uses that expression….and wasn’t it in response to a complaint about him being able to forgive sins…?
Jesus places salvation on the merit of repentance…please read Acts ch 3 and see what Peter said regarding the man he healed, and what he said to the Jews who witnessed that miracle.
Tell me what you read.
Absolutely…as I can see that your knowledge of Scripture is quite limited, and based on theology, not the Bible….a discussion would be helpful, but I am not here to participate in useless arguments for the sake of them.
The Bible teaches one truth that has been twisted every which way by those who thought they knew better. We can express our personal view and the Scripture we believe supports it. I am not here to win, but to teach what I have learned to anyone who wishes to ask about anything biblical. (2 Tim 3:16-17)
OK…..Grace is not a license….it is a gift…undeserved. No one can earn it, but that doesn’t mean that we don’t have to qualify for it.
Life from the beginning came with terms and conditions…freedom of choice was a gift, but unlimited freedom would be a curse….that is the reason why we have laws….we have freedom within those laws but it’s not until you transgress the law that you feel the weight of it.
Over to you….
The thief and the adulteress are not good examples to establish a case for forgiveness without repentance from.
The thief believed in Jesus, therefore he repented of his unbelief.
He still died on the cross as a thief.
The adulteress was about to be punished for her sins.
Had she repented?
Jesus thought so.
"Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more." (John 8:11)
Apparently in the story she also repented for her unbelief.
God hasn’t cast away anyone who comes to him through the agency of his Son. (John 6:44; 65)
All humans with free will can choose who and what to believe….I believe the God who authored the Bible…what about you?
What did God foreknow? When he made his commitment to Abraham that his seed would produce the Messiah, he meant it, but they never made it easy, did they? When they were finally liberated from slavery in Egypt, Jacob’s descendants agreed to abide by the laws that God commanded them….they did so willingly.
The Israelites did not abide by the terms of the law covenant and broke them more than once…
Yahweh on the other hand kept his end of the commitment…..Israel produced their Messiah but then what did they do? Did God have grounds for cancelling a contract if the other party broke it? There was a proviso in that contract…a little word with a big meaning…..”IF”. Read Exodus 19:5-6.
It matters if you are backing the wrong horse in a race for life, and you lose….
The land that Israel was gifted does not come with a cozy history….Israel have always had enemies and as long as they were his covenant people, he defended them…even when their enemies completely outnumbered them. They never needed to seek help from the nations outside, as their God was the most powerful Being in existence, who wiped the floor with the false gods of those nations.
Who is backing the political nation of Israel today? Not God, who would never sanction weapons of mass destruction used on innocent women and children in a land grab. His name and reputation are not even under consideration in these conflicts. It is entirely about the land and who has a right to occupy it….
Three “Abrahamic” faiths fight over this piece of dirt….and none of them will relinquish their place there.
It is a place of division, religious hatred and bloodshed….not “holy”in any defintion of the word.
I don’t believe for a second that God is involved in any way with bloodshed of these turbulent times.
As disciples of “the Prince of Peace” and in accord with Jesus’ instructions to be “no part of the world” I am happy to allow God to sort it all out, becauseI too think that God knows what he is doing.
Since God does not change, what have the times got to do with anything?
Jesus was Jewish and he never advocated violence or bloodshed. When Jesus walked the earth, Israel had no military force as they were a subjugated people under Roman domination. So no Christian in the first century was in the military and Jesus’ disciples were not armed either, otherwise Jesus would not have told them to buy swords. And the reason why he told them to do that had nothing to do with using them. Remember Peter was rebuked by Jesus for doing so.
Have you got the whole story?
Are you serious?
We have already been told a bit about what Jesus' earthly reign is expected to be like in your thousand years of "peace".
Apparently the physical temple will be rebuilt and Levitical sacrifice brought back, so I read Zech. 12,13 and 14 to find out more about this kingdom.
I understand that you teleport these chapters to this future period.
I try to adopt your strict literal approach to interpretation.
In Zech. 12 we find that the once hostile relationship between Judah and Jerusalem is unified and strengthened in a struggle against a common enemy.
That would mean that somehow these 2 tribes would come back into existence in this future time, fall out and be reunited.
In Zech 13 we would already be under the earthly reign of Jesus, but there would be a problem with false prophets in Israel, and the duty of executing them would be delegated to their mothers and fathers.
After that Jesus would allow two thirds of the Jews to be slaughtered.
In Zech. 14 after Jesus has gathered nations to destroy Jerusalem, rape women and take slaves- and destroyed those nations.
He would re institute the feast of the tabernacles and Levitical sacrifice.
The nations that do not come to the feast would be punished.
Canaanites would be re-identified, and ethnically cleansed.
Things would continue in this sort of way for 1000 years, but after that Jesus would get sick of it all and release Satan on everyone for a short time.
Now is as good a time as any to ask yourself if you have really got all of this right.
Correction: I should have said "ask JESUS if you have really got this all right,"