Revolution in Iran

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Obviously you do not derive your theology from the New Testament
This typological identity is absolutely confirmed by every legit Bible scholar and student. Yet you deny this identity? Who do you say this is?

Rev 12:1 - And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Rev 12:6 - And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Rev 12:13 - And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Rev 12:14 - And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
 
That's heavenly Jerusalem/Zion
You say that somehow the Lord Jesus lost His sword or went AWOL, consequentially the Saints in heaven are fleeing from Satan and his host to some heavenly "wilderness" ROFL?

Rev 12:4 - And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Rev 12:5 - And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught UP unto God, and to his throne.

Oh and BTW, the war in HEAVEN only begins later in verse 7...!

Rev 12:7 - And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
 
You say that somehow the Lord Jesus lost His sword or went AWOL, consequentially the Saints in heaven are fleeing from Satan and his host to some heavenly "wilderness" ROFL?

Rev 12:4 - And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Rev 12:5 - And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught UP unto God, and to his throne.

Oh and BTW, the war in HEAVEN only begins later in verse 7...!

Rev 12:7 - And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

The persecuted Christians are the woman's children. Christians only have one mother

But the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. Galatians 4:26
 
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The persecuted Christians are the woman's children. Christians only have one mother

But the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. Galatians 4:26
Oh you lost track of the convo accidently on purpose? Well, this would be typical for you.

And BTW, the text is crystal clear:
It is the WOMAN who is being persecuted by the dragon. On the EARTH not in heaven.

Rev 12:13 - And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
 
Oh you lost track of the convo accidently on purpose? Well, this would be typical for you.

And BTW, the text is crystal clear:
It is the WOMAN who is being persecuted by the dragon. On the EARTH not in heaven.

Rev 12:13 - And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

The woman is figurative language for the body of Christ, the assembly of God, the pillar and ground of the truth on earth.

But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the assembly of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15
 
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Does a religion need to have a state?
Iran?
I am inclined to think that people can practice their religion anywhere, but then again Zionism is not my religion.
Beekeeper simping for the Jihadis in Iran?
I do not believe in theocracy, so you might say I ought to show more tolerance.
I would say I do not care.
That would be fine if it was not for the fact that in the name of Zionism people are constantly being slaughtered in large numbers and the name of Jesus slandered.
So yes, I have something more than opinion.
No you have opinion and selective outrage. Which is inconsistent and suspicious. You are nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Jihadis who would behead you if they could or make you a slave if you proved useful.
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The Grand Mufti: The most prominent Muslim figure to ally with the Third Reich was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem. In 1941, he met with Adolf Hitler in Berlin. He viewed the Nazis as natural partners against Zionism and British colonialism. Al-Husseini shared Hitler's virulent hatred of Jews and actively broadcast anti-Jewish and pro-Axis propaganda into the Middle East.

Military Recruitment: The Waffen-SS and Wehrmacht recruited thousands of Muslim volunteers, particularly from the Balkans and the Soviet Union, forming divisions such as the 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar.
 
Exactly. Whatever happened to separation of church and state for these hypocrites?
If Israel is to be a "Jewish" state, where are all the Christian states?

Is Iran a Muslim theocracy?
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Yes, Iran is an Islamic theocracy. It operates as an Islamic Republic in which the ultimate political and legal authority rests with a Supreme Leader, a high-ranking cleric, and religious law (Sharia) forms the foundation of the state's judicial and governance structures.The government blends divine legitimacy with republican elements through its unique structure:The Supreme Leader: The highest-ranking political and religious authority, currently Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. He oversees the military, judiciary, and foreign policy, and has the power to approve or disqualify candidates for elected office.Guardian Council: A clerical body that ensures all laws passed by the legislature and candidates running for office conform to Islamic principles.Elected Institutions: Iran has a popularly elected president, parliament (Majlis), and local councils, but all elected officials operate under the supervision of the Supreme Leader and the unelected clerical bodies




It's fantasy to believe a religion, particularly an evil and Satan-sponsored religion such as Pharisaical Zionism (which is separate to Judaism, although it tries to hide behind it so it can claim anti-Semitism) should have a right to its own state.
Israel is its own state via the Brits
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Israel was created in 1948 through a combination of international diplomacy, mounting geopolitical pressure following the Holocaust, and the end of the British Mandate in Palestine. The process unfolded through the following key stages:UN Partition Plan (November 1947):

The United Nations adopted Resolution 181, which recommended dividing the British-controlled territory of Palestine into separate independent Arab and Jewish states, with Jerusalem under international administration. Jewish leaders accepted the plan; Arab leaders rejected it. Declaration of Independence (May 14, 1948):

On the day the British Mandate officially expired, Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel in Tel Aviv, providing a homeland for the Jewish people.

Immediate International Recognition: The United States was the first to recognize the new state, followed swiftly by the Soviet Union.

1948 Arab-Israeli War: The declaration triggered the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, as neighboring Arab states invaded the region. The fighting concluded in 1949 with armistice agreements that defined Israel's initial borders
 
Iran?
Beekeeper simping for the Jihadis in Iran?
I would say I do not care.

No you have opinion and selective outrage. Which is inconsistent and suspicious. You are nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Jihadis who would behead you if they could or make you a slave if you proved useful.
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The Grand Mufti: The most prominent Muslim figure to ally with the Third Reich was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem. In 1941, he met with Adolf Hitler in Berlin. He viewed the Nazis as natural partners against Zionism and British colonialism. Al-Husseini shared Hitler's virulent hatred of Jews and actively broadcast anti-Jewish and pro-Axis propaganda into the Middle East.

Military Recruitment: The Waffen-SS and Wehrmacht recruited thousands of Muslim volunteers, particularly from the Balkans and the Soviet Union, forming divisions such as the 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar.

Iran has Muslim leaders but is 2700 years old and has had leaders of many other religious beliefs too.
Not the same thing, though still to some extent a theocracy.
I would neither want to live under it or destroy it.
The people would be in a much better position to deal with their internal problems if they were not so busy fighting America.
Regarding "Israel's" victims, I see that you can distance yourself from them.
If I can not, does that make me a monster?
 
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The woman is figurative language for the body of Christ, the assembly of God, the pillar and ground of the truth on earth.

But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the assembly of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15
Mat 2:2 - saying, “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him.”

Jhn 18:33 - Then Pilate entered the Praetorium again, called Jesus, and said to Him, “Are You the King of the Jews?”

Jhn 18:37 - Pilate therefore said to Him, “Are You a king then?” Jesus answered, “You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.”

The specific title "King of the Church," "King of the Bride," or "King of the Gentiles" is never used anywhere in the biblical text.

The New Testament maintains a very specific structural mapping when describing Jesus's relationship to different groups, and it deliberately shifts its terminology when moving from Israel and the nations to the Church.

Here is how Scripture structurally categorizes these titles.

The Titles for the Church: Head and Bridegroom
When the New Testament epistles speak of the "mystery" of the Church (the ekklēsia, consisting of both Jews and Gentiles grafted into one body, as outlined in Ephesians 3), the governing metaphors are exclusively organic and relational, rather than monarchical.

1. Head of the Body
Jesus is never called the King of the Church; He is called its Head (Kephalē).
Ephesians 1:22-23: "And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church, which is his body..."
Colossians 1:18: "And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead..."

2. The Bridegroom
In relation to the Bride, Jesus is always referred to as the Bridegroom (Nymphios), or the Husband, emphasizing a covenantal union rather than sovereign rulership.
Ephesians 5:23: "For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior."
Revelation 19:7: "Let us rejoice and exult and give him the glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his Bride has made herself ready."

The "King" Titles in Scripture
The title of "King" (Basileus) in the New Testament is strictly reserved for His relationship to Israel, the nations of the earth, and the cosmos as a whole.

King of the Jews / King of Israel: Used during His nativity (Matthew 2:2), His triumphal entry (John 12:13), and His crucifixion (John 19:19).
King of Kings: A cosmic, universal title denoting absolute sovereignty over all earthly rulers (Revelation 17:14; 19:16).
 
The specific title "King of the Church," "King of the Bride," or "King of the Gentiles" is never used anywhere in the biblical text.
Of course not.
The Bride is the Israel of God.
Jesus and His apostles have already taught us all these things.
Why would we need you to teach it all in your own way?
 
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Of course not.
The Bride is the Israel of God.
Jesus and His apostles have already taught us all these things.
Why would we need you to teach it all in your own way?
When the New Testament epistles speak of the "mystery" of the Church (the ekklēsia, consisting of BOTH Jews and Gentiles grafted into one body, as outlined in Ephesians 3), the governing metaphors are exclusively organic and relational, rather than monarchical.

:oops: :censored:
 
When the New Testament epistles speak of the "mystery" of the Church (the ekklēsia, consisting of BOTH Jews and Gentiles grafted into one body, as outlined in Ephesians 3), the governing metaphors are exclusively organic and relational, rather than monarchical.

:oops: :censored:

That is also the type of government that God intended for Israel before the people demanded to have a king like the other nations.
 
The woman is figurative language for the body of Christ, the assembly of God, the pillar and ground of the truth on earth.

But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the assembly of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15
"There is no darkness but ignorance, in which thou art more puzzled than the Egyptians in their fog."
— Twelfth Night (Act 4, Scene 2)

Rev 12:13 - And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

The Church did not "bring forth" the "Man Child". Mary of the royal line of David did.

Contrarily, it was Christ Himself Who "brought forth" His Bride the Church from His Own pierced side.

True to your custom, you have shut your eyes to the facts and embraced a delusion. You are not merely mistaken; you are aggressively, defiantly wrong.
 
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No you have opinion and selective outrage. Which is inconsistent and suspicious. You are nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Jihadis who would behead you if they could or make you a slave if you proved useful.

I will have to try to be more rational and balanced when it comes to the question of victimhood then.

On the Lebanon front:
Critical questions are: 1.How many IDF have been killed by Hezbollah terrorists?
2.How many Lebanese civilians have been killed by IDF terrorists?
Actually come to think of it the problem lies right there.
Civilian lives and homes are being destroyed in Southern Lebanon, and land is being taken while Hezbollah targets the IDF.
You may not like what Hezbollah is doing, but technically it is not terrorist activity.

On the Gaza front:
I will assume my own position that a Palestinian life has the same value as an Israeli life, but in fairness to the Zionists I will also assume that history began on the 7th of October 2023 (a position that I do not hold).
Well conservatively about 100 Palestinians have been killed for every one Israeli victim, making Israel by comparison 99% not the victim.
Factoring in that most of the buildings in Gaza have been flattened and land has been stolen, that 1% is already trimming down to a negligible sized number.
 
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Looks to me like you are on the same page as fashionable Mamdani who does not believe there should be a Jewish state on this planet. You do not care about abusive behavior if Oct 7, 23 is ignored. So why the pretext? Who do you think you are fooling?

In what sense id Oct. 7 being ignored?
 
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