Revolution in Iran

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Again, this is the pharisee belief. You are simply acknowledging that you follow their teachings
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i have discovered dispensationalists are really closet Calvinists, an inversion of sorts... God keeps certain people blind and condemned for millennia.

Somehow "a few" sneak in it seems, but the rest are kept blind until irresistible grace and unconditional election can occur, I guess all this to magnify god.
 
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cv5 said:
You offer no proof because there isn't any. Brandishing preposterous pejoratives doesn't count.
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Ignore them. You have shared more than enough for any honest person seeking to know the truth to then examine for themself. We have no obligation to "convince" anyone. You have correctly pointed out that they do not address the Biblical issues raised, so who cares what their opinion is. And if they want to hurl insults that is between them and the Lord.
 
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ZNP said:
Ignore them. You have shared more than enough for any honest person seeking to know the truth to then examine for themself. We have no obligation to "convince" anyone. You have correctly pointed out that they do not address the Biblical issues raised, so who cares what their opinion is. And if they want to hurl insults that is between them and the Lord.
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Can you tell us who is the "seed" in Genesis?
 
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cv5 said:
You offer no proof because there isn't any. Brandishing preposterous pejoratives doesn't count.
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It's obvious to anyone who has read the NT. The pharisees and Christ were opposites. At first the disciples expected an earthly kingdom because they believed what the pharisees believed, but after they received the holy spirit, there was no mention by any of them of that expectation or belief of that happening until the resurrection.
 
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HeIsHere said:
Can you tell us who is the "seed" in Genesis?
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Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

This is why Genesis ends with Joseph, the seed of Israel ruling and reigning over Egypt (a type of the world) with a Gentile bride (signifying the church). This is why Joseph was given the name Zaph Naph Paaneah (ZNP), which means Savior of the World. He is a type of Christ. However, the promise was spoken to Joseph in his dreams and also to Israel. Both were saved, both came out of Egypt.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
It's obvious to anyone who has read the NT. The pharisees and Christ were opposites. At first the disciples expected an earthly kingdom because they believed what the pharisees believed, but after they received the holy spirit, there was no mention by any of them of that expectation or belief of that happening until the resurrection.
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Of course there was. Please use relevant passages to support your position. Vague comments have zero value.

This passage post resurrection of course.

Act 1:6 - When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
 
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cv5 said:
Of course there was. Please use relevant passages to support your position. Vague comments have zero value.

This passage post resurrection of course.

Act 1:6 - When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
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That was before they received the holy spirit. After they received the spirit there is no mention in the NT of an earthly kingdom until after the resurrection.
 
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