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Read Romans 11.






God made an unconditional, everlasting covenant with the Jews.
I haven't heard about this "unconditional, everlasting covenant with the Jews". If that's true, then the Bible is not true. The truth is that the Church has replaced the Jews as "Gods chosen people".

Could you please let me know which scriptures support your view that "God has made an unconditional, everlasting covenant with the Jews".
 
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Wow, where are you getting these bogus "stories". There is absolutely no Biblical basis to say this.

The Biblical basis on which people have inferred a temple is that the oblations and sacrifices will be restarted. The only thing they needed to do that was a priesthood and the ashes of the red heifer. They have both now.

Also, we are told that in the middle of the tribulation Antichrist will put the abomination of desolation (this term is translated from a Hebrew phrase which could also be translated as "winged idol") into the "temple" (the word translated temple does not mean a large building but rather the "holy sanctuary" which was in both the tabernacle and temple). They have already made this idol, it is called "Savior of the World" it is 10 cubits high, the same height as the two cherubim in the Holy Sanctuary, and it has the face of King Charles.

There are many different Christian Denominations with radically different interpretations of the book of revelation.
I'm not claiming that my pastor is infallible, but he does provide scriptures to support all of his views.

It's not good enough to simply dismiss a different view to yours, by claiming that there's no biblical basis for it, without providing any scriptures to support your view.

I'm sure you're aware of countless opposing views and interpretations of the book of revelation. They all require you to accept their premiss, before you can have fellowship with them. As usual acceptance, friendship and fellowship all require you to sacrifice the truth for the sake of unity and harmony.

How does one know if someone else is proclaiming the truth or if they're spreading misinformation or disinformation or heavens forbid false doctrine. If one doesn't know the truth of the matter, then they only have their feelings and emotions to help them decide to, either accept it or reject it.

I'm not really sure what to make of your claims right now, but I will have a look into it and maybe offer my 2 cents worth at a later stage.
 
Could you please let me know which scriptures support your view that "God has made an unconditional, everlasting covenant with the Jews".

It's called the new covenant

For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them. And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed. Isaiah 61:8-9
And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me. Jeremiah 32:40
 
We believe that the Israel mentioned in the book of revelation, describes "the Israel of God" AKA the "elect of God", "the Church" or "the Bride of Christ", or simply "believers" Jew and Gentile alike.

I'm not sure what specific role you believe "national Israel" or "ethnic Jews", are supposed to play in the book of revelation. I know the Antichrist will deceive all the nations of the world, "Israel included".

We agree that rebuilding the Temple is a futile exercise, because the Lord Jesus is the new and eternal Temple. The new Temple was not made by hands, so it's a spiritual temple.
In any case the Lord is not pleased with burnt sacrifices any longer, He said they are a stench in His nostrils. So why would anyone rebuild the Temple, knowing the God doesn't accept burnt offerings anymore.

We believe the "Mark of the Beast" is also a spiritual mark, so it's not a physical mark like a tattoo or a microchip in our hand or forehead. Gods people have the "seal of God" on our forehead. Although both the mark of the beast and the seal of God are two opposite invisible estates, they are manifested in our actions. So we can distinguish Gods people from the Devils children by their actions.

The book of Revelation uses a lot of symbolic figurative language, so it could be said that the beast infiltrates the Church and proclaims Himself to be God. But He won't be able to deceive Gods people, because we are indwealt and led by the Holy Spirit, who leads us and guides into all truth.

Nobody, apart from the God the Father knows when the Lord Jesus will return. I'm not really sure what to believe about "the rapture" of the Church. I don't know if it's pre tribulation, or during the tribulation or after the tribulation. I haven't studied that subject yet, as we've mainly been studying the salvific doctrines.
Israel exists for a vital function. It is another proof of the reality of God, His ability to do as He says and the reliability of the Bible as the Word of God. The third temple will be built. Most Jews still do not accept Jesus as Messiah, although there is a revival happening in Israel right now.

God rejected Israel's sacrifices because Israel sinned and rebelled against God and went into idolatry. Some Jews are convince that God will accept sacrifices once more because they obey God's law. Christians know that this is not the case.

Some Christians spiritualise the book of Revelation, others take it literally. I think it is describing real events, some of which have been fulfilled and others that have yet to happen.

I do not believe the mark of the beast to be spiritual. The MOB is a choice that people make. It's very specific. If it was spiritual, then why say hand or forehead? That's physical.

The spirit of Antichrist has already infiltrated the church. John warns of many antichrists (1 John 2:18). There is a host of fallen angels, demons and evil spirits. They are all headed up by Satan. Likewise, the antichrist spirits (obviously of Satan as well) have a head, who is The Antichrist. The Antichrist will deceive many and make a covenant with Israel. He will enable the third temple to be built and then break the covenant he made. So there must be a physical temple. It's not the temple in Ezekiel's vision. That is of God.

Paul devoted three chapters of Romans to God's plan for Israel. That is significant in itself.
 
I haven't heard about this "unconditional, everlasting covenant with the Jews". If that's true, then the Bible is not true. The truth is that the Church has replaced the Jews as "Gods chosen people".

Please read Romans 11.

Could you please let me know which scriptures support your view that "God has made an unconditional, everlasting covenant with the Jews".

There are several Scriptures but first think of how the covenant was made. How were covenants made in the OT and how did this covenant differ? That is what made it unconditional.
 
There are many different Christian Denominations with radically different interpretations of the book of revelation.
I'm not claiming that my pastor is infallible, but he does provide scriptures to support all of his views.

It's not good enough to simply dismiss a different view to yours, by claiming that there's no biblical basis for it, without providing any scriptures to support your view.

I'm sure you're aware of countless opposing views and interpretations of the book of revelation. They all require you to accept their premiss, before you can have fellowship with them. As usual acceptance, friendship and fellowship all require you to sacrifice the truth for the sake of unity and harmony.

How does one know if someone else is proclaiming the truth or if they're spreading misinformation or disinformation or heavens forbid false doctrine. If one doesn't know the truth of the matter, then they only have their feelings and emotions to help them decide to, either accept it or reject it.

I'm not really sure what to make of your claims right now, but I will have a look into it and maybe offer my 2 cents worth at a later stage.
No, I mean where do you get this story about the tabernacle of David? There is nothing in the Bible that would suggest that. The Tabernacle was in the time of Samuel, the ark that David took up to Jerusalem was returned to Israel while Samuel was alive. It is completely absurd to think that the tabernacle was somehow destroyed during Samuel's life. David described the ark dwelling in a tent, and not a tent that he made, it would have certainly been the same tabernacle that was at the time of Samuel.
 
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Paul devoted three chapters of Romans to God's plan for Israel. That is significant in itself.

Paul spent 3 chapters, 9-11, making the case that only a remnant of natural Israel is saved.

I challenge anyone to show one verse in those 3 chapters, besides Romans 11:26, that states otherwise.

If that cannot be done then we have to assume that 11:26 also pertains to the remnant of believing Israel throughout all of history because Paul would not spend 3 chapters painstakingly making the point that only a remnant is saved, and then contradict that in one sentence. Ridiculous.

So far no one has taken the challenge. And no one can because it is impossible.
 
Wow, where are you getting these bogus "stories". There is absolutely no Biblical basis to say this.

The Biblical basis on which people have inferred a temple is that the oblations and sacrifices will be restarted. The only thing they needed to do that was a priesthood and the ashes of the red heifer. They have both now.

Also, we are told that in the middle of the tribulation Antichrist will put the abomination of desolation (this term is translated from a Hebrew phrase which could also be translated as "winged idol") into the "temple" (the word translated temple does not mean a large building but rather the "holy sanctuary" which was in both the tabernacle and temple). They have already made this idol, it is called "Savior of the World" it is 10 cubits high, the same height as the two cherubim in the Holy Sanctuary, and it has the face of King Charles.

Well, the way I see it, Antiochus IV was the type that the end time son of perdition anti-type will emulate.

Furthermore, in Matt 24, Jesus is speaking to Jews just outside the Temple precinct. There is no doubt that He is describing what they are just then looking at and commenting on!

And BOTH the Greek and Hebrew terms match perfectly. A particular building (Temple) in a particular location (Jerusalem).

This idea that the old Tabernacle of David in Hebron is correct is seriously flawed.
Tabernacle of David (Amos)
Hebrew: sukkah = temporary shelter
Connotation: dynasty / kingdom / restoration

********************************************************************

If we focus carefully on the language (Hebrew + Greek) and the specific passages, the case that the abomination of desolation occurs in a literal, physical Temple in Jerusalem rests heavily on how “holy place” is used.




1. Daniel: the original prophecy (Hebrew)​


Daniel 9:27​


“…in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate…”

  • Written in Hebrew (with some Aramaic sections nearby).
  • Key idea: sacrifices stop → requires a functioning Temple system.
  • Implication: altar + priesthood + location = Temple in Jerusalem.



Daniel 11:31​


“And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice…”

  • Hebrew phrase: “miqdash” (מִקְדָּשׁ) = sanctuary, holy place.
  • This word is consistently used for:
    • The Tabernacle (Exodus)
    • The Temple in Jerusalem

👉 Not symbolic language—this is the actual sacred complex.




Daniel 12:11​


“From the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up…”

Again:


  • Requires daily sacrifice
  • Requires designated sacred location

➡️ These Daniel passages strongly anchor the prophecy in a Temple setting.




2. Jesus interprets Daniel (Greek precision)​


Matthew 24:15​


“When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place…”

Key Greek phrase:​


  • ἁγίῳ τόπῳ (hagiō topō)
    = “holy place”

Why this matters:​


  • τόπος (topos) = a physical location
  • ἅγιος (hagios) = set apart, sacred

👉 Together: a specific, consecrated physical المكان (place)


This phrase is not used for a vague spiritual idea—it points to a recognized sacred site.




Important detail:​


Matthew (written for a Jewish audience) uses “holy place”—language that would naturally be understood as:


➡️ The Temple precinct in Jerusalem




Mark 13:14 (parallel passage)​


“…standing where it ought not…”

  • Less explicit, but assumes the reader understands the proper מקום (place).
  • Still tied to Daniel’s Temple context.



3. Luke’s clarification (geographical anchor)​


Luke 21:20​


“When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.”

Luke makes explicit:


  • The setting is Jerusalem
  • Not symbolic, but geopolitical + geographic



4. Paul: the “Temple of God”​


2 Thessalonians 2:3–4​


“…the man of sin… sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.”

Greek term:​


  • ναός (naos) = inner sanctuary (not just general temple grounds)

This is critical:


  • Naosis used for:
    • The inner Temple structure
    • The מקום of God’s presence

👉 Paul says this figure sits in it — implying:


  • A standing, functional Temple
  • A definable location people recognize



5. Synthesis: why this points to a literal Temple​


Putting it all together:


A. Requires sacrifices​


  • Daniel 9:27; 12:11
    ➡️ No sacrifices = no abomination event

B. Requires a sanctuary (Hebrew: miqdash)​


  • Always refers to a real sacred structure

C. Jesus uses “holy place” (Greek: hagios topos)​


  • A specific physical sacred site
  • Understood by Jews as the Temple

D. Paul uses naos


  • Even more specific: inner Temple



6. Linguistic conclusion (key point)​


  • Hebrew (Daniel): miqdash → physical sanctuary
  • Greek (Matthew): hagios topos → sacred location
  • Greek (Paul): naos → inner shrine

👉 All three converge on the same idea:


Not a metaphor, not a vague religious system — but a definite, physical holy site recognized as God’s sanctuary.



7. The core implication​


The passages together strongly indicate:


  • The abomination occurs in:
    • A restored or functioning Temple
    • Located in Jerusalem
  • It involves:
    • Interruption of sacrifices
    • Desecration of the sacred space
 
Paul spent 3 chapters, 9-11, making the case that only a remnant of natural Israel is saved.

I challenge anyone to show one verse in those 3 chapters, besides Romans 11:26, that states otherwise.

If that cannot be done then we have to assume that 11:26 also pertains to the remnant of believing Israel throughout all of history because Paul would not spend 3 chapters painstakingly making the point that only a remnant is saved, and then contradict that in one sentence. Ridiculous.

So far no one has taken the challenge. And no one can because it is impossible.

Yes exactly, and what was Paul meaning when he made this statement to the audience to whom it was written, the literalist approach to all scripture falls apart very quickly.
 
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If we focus carefully on the language (Hebrew + Greek) and the specific passages, the case that the abomination of desolation occurs in a literal, physical Temple in Jerusalem rests heavily on how “holy place” is used.
No temple on Earth can be "holy" ever again.
This idea is completely antithetical to scripture
 
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Oh and before I forget, the Old Covenant was about KEEPING THE LAND.....

Not getting it to begin with.
Obtaining the land grant was a SEPARATE, inviolable unconditional perpetual covenant given to Abraham.

Your posts in this matter are yet another example of tragic and unnecessary Biblical illiteracy.

I am seeing now your doctrine is at its heart a denial of the Lord and Savior. sad.

Until you change your hermeneutic you will be in error and soon history itself will prove your error.
 
Paul devoted three chapters of Romans to God's plan for Israel. That is significant in itself.

And the letter was written to people 2000+ years ago, not to you and not to this time period, to the ones who would receive the letter.
Basic, level one understanding of how to read scripture.
 
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It's called the new covenant

For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them. And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed. Isaiah 61:8-9
And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me. Jeremiah 32:40

They must remove the The Letters to the Hebrews from their Bible completely.
Your eschatology is far more consistent with scripture, more faithful to the language styles, than theirs will ever be.
 
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I haven't heard about this "unconditional, everlasting covenant with the Jews". If that's true, then the Bible is not true. The truth is that the Church has replaced the Jews as "Gods chosen people".

Could you please let me know which scriptures support your view that
"God has made an unconditional, everlasting covenant with the Jews".
Oh really LOL!
Well then you have certainly zoned in on the cause of your own Biblical illiteracy!

Yes, there are indeed perpetual everlasting covenants that God (strategically, intentionally!) made to Abraham, the perpetual everlasting land covenant of Deut 30, and perpetual everlasting dynastic covenant made to David. Then of course the perpetual everlasting New Covenant.

I say made "TO" and not "WITH" because these covenant are unilateral, with no imposition upon the beneficiaries.

The reason that these covenants are (not were!) made perpetual and unconditional is of course because God, being omniscient, knew of the many failures before they ever happened. And insured that His plan of Salvation would inevitably unfurl perfectly according to His plan irrespective of the sin and weakness of men.

Frankly, I do not expect that you will have the soundness of mind and patience to read all of this
and then launch your own personal study to master these important topics.
Because you see, willful ignorance is the only way that those pushing the replacement theology dogma persist.
OK lets add willful disobedience to the list. A very real and very pernicious fact.
 
I haven't heard about this "unconditional, everlasting covenant with the Jews". If that's true, then the Bible is not true. The truth is that the Church has replaced the Jews as "Gods chosen people".

Could you please let me know which scriptures support your view that "God has made an unconditional, everlasting covenant with the Jews".
These matters go right to the backbone of OT theology: which covenants are explicitly called everlasting and unconditional, especially those tied to land, throne, and national identity.
Below is a clear, text-based breakdown with the key Hebrew terms and passages.


1. The Abrahamic Covenant — Everlasting land + nation

Core passages

  • Genesis 12:1–3
  • Genesis 15:18–21
  • Genesis 17:7–8

Key statement

“I will establish my covenant… for an everlasting covenant… and I will give unto thee… all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession.”

Hebrew terms:

  • “berit olam” (בְּרִית עוֹלָם) = everlasting covenant
  • “achuzzat olam” (אֲחֻזַּת עוֹלָם) = everlasting possession (land)

Why it’s unconditional


  • In Genesis 15, only God (symbolized by fire) passes between the pieces.
  • Abraham does not pass through → no bilateral obligation.
👉 This is a unilateral grant covenant:
  • Land
  • Seed (nation)
  • Blessing

2. The Davidic Covenant — Everlasting throne/kingship

Core passages

  • 2 Samuel 7:12–16
  • Psalm 89:3–4, 34–37
  • Psalm 132:11–12

Key statement

“Thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever… thy throne shall be established for ever.”

Hebrew terms:

  • “ad olam” (עַד־עוֹלָם) = forever
  • “olam” repeatedly applied to throne and dynasty

Unconditional nature (with discipline clause)

  • Psalm 89 is decisive:
“My covenant will I not break… his seed also will I make to endure for ever… if his children forsake my law… I will visit… nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him.”
👉 Meaning:
  • Kings may be judged
  • Covenant itself cannot be annulled

3. The Land Covenant (Deuteronomic expansion)

Often treated as an extension of Abrahamic promises.

Key passage

  • Deuteronomy 30:1–10

Key idea

  • Even after exile:
“Then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity… and will return and gather thee…”

Nature

  • Not called explicitly “everlasting” in the same formula as Genesis 17,
  • but:
    • Guarantees final restoration to the land
    • Based on prior unconditional oath to Abraham
👉 Many see this as:
  • The operational outworking of the Abrahamic land promise

4. The New Covenant — Everlasting spiritual + national restoration

Core passages

  • Jeremiah 31:31–37
  • Ezekiel 36:24–28
  • Ezekiel 37:26–28

Key statement

“I will make an everlasting covenant with them…”

Hebrew:

  • berit olam again

Why it’s unconditional

  • God says repeatedly: “I will…”
  • Includes:
    • New heart
    • Indwelling Spirit
    • National regathering
    • Permanent relationship

Permanence clause (very strong)

Jeremiah 31:
If the sun, moon, and stars depart… then Israel will cease…
👉 Cosmic guarantee = absolute permanence

5. The Priesthood Covenant (Phinehas)

Often overlooked but explicitly everlasting.

Key passage

  • Numbers 25:10–13

Key statement

“He shall have it, and his seed after him, even the covenant of an everlasting priesthood.”

Hebrew:

  • “berit kehunnat olam” = everlasting priesthood covenant

Nature

  • Granted to Phinehas
  • Tied to:
    • Zealous act
    • Line of Aaron
👉 Another perpetual office-based covenant


6. The Noahic Covenant — Everlasting stability of the earth

Key passage

  • Genesis 9:8–17

Key statement

“I establish my covenant… for perpetual generations… an everlasting covenant…”

Scope

  • Not Israel-specific
  • Guarantees:
    • No global flood again
    • Stability of creation order
👉 Still:
  • Explicitly unconditional and everlasting

7. Summary Table

CovenantRecipientWhat is guaranteedEverlasting languageUnconditional?
AbrahamicAbraham & seedLand, nation, blessingYes (berit olam)Yes
DavidicDavidThrone/kingshipYes (ad olam)Yes
New CovenantIsrael (and wider application)Spiritual renewal + restorationYesYes
Land (Deut 30)IsraelRegathering to landImpliedYes (based on Abrahamic)
PhinehasPriestly linePriesthoodYesYes
NoahicAll humanityEarth stabilityYesYes

8. Big-picture synthesis

These covenants form a coherent framework:
  • AbrahamicWho owns the land
  • DavidicWho rules the kingdom
  • New CovenantHow the people are transformed
  • Priestly (Phinehas)Who mediates worship
  • NoahicWhy history continues at all

Final observation

The repeated use of “olam” (everlasting) across multiple independent covenants is not accidental.
👉 It creates a layered structure of irreversible divine commitments:
  • Land (geographical)
  • Throne (political)
  • People (spiritual)
  • Worship (priestly)
 
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These matters go right to the backbone of OT theology: which covenants are explicitly called everlasting and unconditional, especially those tied to land, throne, and national identity.
Below is a clear, text-based breakdown with the key Hebrew terms and passages.


1. The Abrahamic Covenant — Everlasting land + nation

Core passages

  • Genesis 12:1–3
  • Genesis 15:18–21
  • Genesis 17:7–8

Key statement


Hebrew terms:

  • “berit olam” (בְּרִית עוֹלָם) = everlasting covenant
  • “achuzzat olam” (אֲחֻזַּת עוֹלָם) = everlasting possession (land)

Why it’s unconditional


  • In Genesis 15, only God (symbolized by fire) passes between the pieces.
  • Abraham does not pass through → no bilateral obligation.
👉 This is a unilateral grant covenant:

  • Land
  • Seed (nation)
  • Blessing

2. The Davidic Covenant — Everlasting throne/kingship

Core passages

  • 2 Samuel 7:12–16
  • Psalm 89:3–4, 34–37
  • Psalm 132:11–12

Key statement


Hebrew terms:

  • “ad olam” (עַד־עוֹלָם) = forever
  • “olam” repeatedly applied to throne and dynasty

Unconditional nature (with discipline clause)

  • Psalm 89 is decisive:

👉 Meaning:
  • Kings may be judged
  • Covenant itself cannot be annulled

3. The Land Covenant (Deuteronomic expansion)

Often treated as an extension of Abrahamic promises.

Key passage

  • Deuteronomy 30:1–10

Key idea

  • Even after exile:


Nature

  • Not called explicitly “everlasting” in the same formula as Genesis 17,
    • Guarantees final restoration to the land
    • Based on prior unconditional oath to Abraham
👉 Many see this as:

  • The operational outworking of the Abrahamic land promise

4. The New Covenant — Everlasting spiritual + national restoration

Core passages

  • Jeremiah 31:31–37
  • Ezekiel 36:24–28
  • Ezekiel 37:26–28

Key statement


Hebrew:

  • berit olam again

Why it’s unconditional

  • God says repeatedly: “I will…”
    • New heart
    • Indwelling Spirit
    • National regathering
    • Permanent relationship

Permanence clause (very strong)

Jeremiah 31:

👉 Cosmic guarantee = absolute permanence


5. The Priesthood Covenant (Phinehas)

Often overlooked but explicitly everlasting.

Key passage

  • Numbers 25:10–13

Key statement


Hebrew:

  • “berit kehunnat olam” = everlasting priesthood covenant

Nature

  • Granted to Phinehas
    • Zealous act
    • Line of Aaron
👉 Another perpetual office-based covenant

6. The Noahic Covenant — Everlasting stability of the earth

Key passage


  • Genesis 9:8–17

Key statement



Scope

  • Not Israel-specific
    • No global flood again
    • Stability of creation order
👉 Still:

  • Explicitly unconditional and everlasting

7. Summary Table


CovenantRecipientWhat is guaranteedEverlasting languageUnconditional?
AbrahamicAbraham & seedLand, nation, blessingYes (berit olam)Yes
DavidicDavidThrone/kingshipYes (ad olam)Yes
New CovenantIsrael (and wider application)Spiritual renewal + restorationYesYes
Land (Deut 30)IsraelRegathering to landImpliedYes (based on Abrahamic)
PhinehasPriestly linePriesthoodYesYes
NoahicAll humanityEarth stabilityYesYes


8. Big-picture synthesis

These covenants form a coherent framework:
  • AbrahamicWho owns the land
  • DavidicWho rules the kingdom
  • New CovenantHow the people are transformed
  • Priestly (Phinehas)Who mediates worship
  • NoahicWhy history continues at all

Final observation

The repeated use of “olam” (everlasting) across multiple independent covenants is not accidental.
👉 It creates a layered structure of irreversible divine commitments:

  • Land (geographical)
  • Throne (political)
  • People (spiritual)
  • Worship (priestly)

Jesus THE Christ!

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Well, the way I see it, Antiochus IV was the type that the end time son of perdition anti-type will emulate.

Furthermore, in Matt 24, Jesus is speaking to Jews just outside the Temple precinct. There is no doubt that He is describing what they are just then looking at and commenting on!

And BOTH the Greek and Hebrew terms match perfectly. A particular building (Temple) in a particular location (Jerusalem).

This idea that the old Tabernacle of David in Hebron is correct is seriously flawed.
Tabernacle of David (Amos)
Hebrew: sukkah = temporary shelter
Connotation: dynasty / kingdom / restoration

********************************************************************

If we focus carefully on the language (Hebrew + Greek) and the specific passages, the case that the abomination of desolation occurs in a literal, physical Temple in Jerusalem rests heavily on how “holy place” is used.




1. Daniel: the original prophecy (Hebrew)​


Daniel 9:27​




  • Written in Hebrew (with some Aramaic sections nearby).
  • Key idea: sacrifices stop → requires a functioning Temple system.
  • Implication: altar + priesthood + location = Temple in Jerusalem.



Daniel 11:31​




  • Hebrew phrase: “miqdash” (מִקְדָּשׁ) = sanctuary, holy place.
  • This word is consistently used for:
    • The Tabernacle (Exodus)
    • The Temple in Jerusalem

👉 Not symbolic language—this is the actual sacred complex.




Daniel 12:11​




Again:


  • Requires daily sacrifice
  • Requires designated sacred location

➡️ These Daniel passages strongly anchor the prophecy in a Temple setting.
Yes, so a sacred temple setting where the priesthood can restart the oblations and sacrifices, all those requirements have been fulfilled. The only way they could have sacrificed a red heifer according to the Torah is if those requirements have been fulfilled.

Not only so, but in order for the Priests to do the oblations and sacrifices they need the ashes of the red heifer. That also has been fulfilled. They now have that.

As for the verses in the New Testament that are translated "Temple" there are two different words. One referred to the building on the Temple mount, and none of the verses in the NT that are used to infer the Temple must be rebuilt uses that term. The other term means "holy sanctuary" and the very same "Holy Sanctuary" was in the Tabernacle as well as the building on the Temple mount called the Temple.

The last temple took 40 years to build. If the Temple is built prior to the tribulation then that would be seen as a huge alarm to every Christian, in that case how could the start of the tribulation be a surprise? On the other hand if the Temple is built during the tribulation you are talking about perilous times, it is very likely that the start of the tribulation is this Ezekiel 38 war that appears to involve nuclear weapons. Building a temple in the immediate aftermath of a nuclear war seems rather implausible.

Now why would the Old Testament tell us that the tabernacle of David will be raised in Shiloh (which is what happened when they sacrificed the Red Heifer in Shiloh in July of 2025) and doesn't tell us that a third temple will be built? Why is it that the New Testament tells us that the church is the Temple, and that they are taken to heaven, and that in the future the Temple of God descends from heaven to Jerusalem and yet there is no mention of a different "third temple" either being built or being destroyed?

The idea that a seven year deal allows the Jews to build a temple makes no sense, why would you build a temple if you are given a seven year lease? No one would do such a thing. Also, the NT tells us the outer court is given to the Gentiles to trample in reference to the Temple mount. Why would you build a temple if you are not also given the outer court? Finally, suppose they do build the temple. They would first have the sacrifices and oblations at the tabernacle while the construction is going on. So it is a guarantee that the oblations and sacrifices will be taking place at the Tabernacle during the tribulation.