Revolution in Iran

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I'd like to see some scripture that specifically says those that don't believe end times events correctly will burn in hell.

Obviously if someone ends up taking the mark of the beast they'll burn, but aside from that where are we told that those who do not understand end times event correctly before they happen will go to hell?

Can only speak for myself, I've never said that. I have called out people who use Antisemitic language but I have not said it sends one to hell. But the Bible says if we hate our brother it's the same as murder. It's open ended I guess. Will Marten Luther make it into heaven after what he said and preached about the Jews? What did he say when he saw the Jewish Jesus? Did he get the chance to see Him at all? Only God knows, but hate cannot enter heaven.
 
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I'd like to see some scripture that specifically says those that don't believe end times events correctly will burn in hell.

Obviously if someone ends up taking the mark of the beast they'll burn, but aside from that where are we told that those who do not understand end times event correctly before they happen will go to hell?
"I'd like to see some scripture that specifically says those that don't believe end times events correctly will burn in hell."

I never said that did I?
Brush up on your reading comprehension.

Having said that, I do have a plausible theory:
There are those who REJECT the necessity to anticipate the imminent arrival of the Bridegroom (post-tribbers).
And there are those who do NOT hearken unto the Lord's command to WATCH (disobedient prophecy deniers).
And there are those who despise and DENY the certain redemption of their elder brothers the Jews (replacement theology).

These are they who do NOT know the time and the seasons, and are caught unawares.
And are at dire risk of entering into the tribulation, rather than entering into the bridechamber at the Fathers house.

If you are "on the earth" "in that day", you WILL be going thru the tribulation.


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Rev 3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

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Luk 21:35
For as a snare shall it come on ***all them*** that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Mat 24:37
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39
And knew not until the flood came (despite the warnings made by God's prophet Noah), and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

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Luk 17:28
Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
Luk 17:29
But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
 
OT prophecy fetish is a disease of the heart and mind
On the contrary, legit OT and NT prophecy comprehension is wisdom, knowledge, confidence, comfort, consolation and rest.

2Th 2:1
Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THE CHURCH***

2Th 2:2
not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THE CHURCH***

2Th 2:3
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

2Th 2:4
who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

2Th 2:5
Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

2Th 2:6
And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE PRESENT STATE OF THE CHURCH***

2Th 2:7
For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE PRESENT STATE OF THE CHURCH***

2Th 2:8
And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE SECOND COMING***

2Th 2:9
The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

2Th 2:10
and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

2Th 2:11
And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE JUDGEMENT OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

2Th 2:12
that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE JUDGEMENT OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

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1Th 4:13
But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.

1Th 4:14
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FUTURE OF THE CHURCH***

1Th 4:15
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FUTURE OF THE CHURCH***

1Th 4:16
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FUTURE OF THE CHURCH***

1Th 4:17
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FUTURE OF THE CHURCH***

1Th 4:18
Therefore comfort one another with these words.
 
"I'd like to see some scripture that specifically says those that don't believe end times events correctly will burn in hell."

I never said that did I?
Brush up on your reading comprehension.

Having said that, I do have a plausible theory:
There are those who REJECT the necessity to anticipate the imminent arrival of the Bridegroom (post-tribbers).
And there are those who do NOT hearken unto the Lord's command to WATCH (disobedient prophecy deniers).
And there are those who despise and DENY the certain redemption of their elder brothers the Jews (replacement theology).

These are they who do NOT know the time and the seasons, and are caught unawares.
And are at dire risk of entering into the tribulation, rather than entering into the bridechamber at the Fathers house.

If you are "on the earth" "in that day", you WILL be going thru the tribulation.


**********************************************************

Rev 3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

**********************************************************

Luk 21:35
For as a snare shall it come on ***all them*** that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Mat 24:37
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39
And knew not until the flood came (despite the warnings made by God's prophet Noah), and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

*************************************************************

Luk 17:28
Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
Luk 17:29
But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

It didn't come as a snare to Noah, nor will it come as a snare to those who are keeping their garments clean. Nothing about an OT prophecy fetish here in these verses

But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 5:4-9

Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. Revelation 3:2-4
 
On the contrary, legit OT prophecy comprehension is wisdom, knowledge, confidence, comfort, consolation and rest.

2Th 2:1
Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THE CHURCH***

2Th 2:2
not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THE CHURCH***

2Th 2:3
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

2Th 2:4
who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

2Th 2:5
Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

2Th 2:6
And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE PRESENT STATE OF THE CHURCH***

2Th 2:7
For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE PRESENT STATE OF THE CHURCH***

2Th 2:8
And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE SECOND COMING***

2Th 2:9
The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

2Th 2:10
and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FURTURE OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

2Th 2:11
And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE JUDGEMENT OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

2Th 2:12
that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE JUDGEMENT OF THOSE DWELLING UPON THE EARTH***

*************************************************

1Th 4:13
But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.

1Th 4:14
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FUTURE OF THE CHURCH***

1Th 4:15
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FUTURE OF THE CHURCH***

1Th 4:16
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FUTURE OF THE CHURCH***

1Th 4:17
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

***PAUL UTTERING PROPHECY PERTAINING TO THE FUTURE OF THE CHURCH***

1Th 4:18
Therefore comfort one another with these words.

Paul was prophesying himself, not quoting OT prophecy
 
Paul was prophesying himself, not quoting OT prophecy
False. Paul in fact WAS referring to MANY OT prophecies.
And this you definitely DO NOT understand! In fact you have just admitted to this your own ignorance.

Fortunately I do understand, perfectly. Feels like I won the wisdom lottery.

Mat 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand.
 
I have called out people who use Antisemitic language but I have not said it sends one to hell.

Those that curse Israel will be cursed - Genesis 12:3


Will Marten Luther make it into heaven after what he said and preached about the Jews?

No. He not only cursed the Jews, He also taught false doctrine and FAILED to abide in the Doctrine of Christ

But then again many have been taught doctrines of devils that we can live in sin and still be saved.


hate cannot enter heaven.

Which of course is why Luther is not in Heaven.

God's Word says drunkards will not enter either and Luther was a known drunk.


Qatar not interested in war. Wars stop when countries refuse to fight

Yeah, that's because they are a bunch of sissies and because they know Israel and the US are going to win in the end.

They wear dresses so go figure :rolleyes:


I never said that did I?

You said "eschatology is certainly a SURVIVAL issue" leading the reader to believe if one does not have correct eschatology they will not survive.

Maybe you should take a course in writing and learn how to write more clearly so readers know what you are trying to say


If you are "on the earth" "in that day", you WILL be going thru the tribulation.

I won't be here. I'm going to be evacuated after the man of sin has been revealed to the world (2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, Rev 3:10)

Butt you can be if you'd like.


He loves to run his yapper

Yeah, he got that from back when he spent years as a democrat.
 
If you remember from a few days ago the AI was speculating that Behnam Rezai, their deputy of naval intelligence, was killed in the strike that took out Tangsiri. Well good news, we now have hard confirmation that indeed Behnam Rezai, their naval intelligence head, indeed did perish in the strike that punished Tangsiri.

 
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And in the more soft power and politics back here at home CPAC continues strong and the GOP proves very smart and politically capitalizes on the boon of support from the Iranian diaspora, jewish American community, and Christian Americans by pullng a huge politics power play and inviting Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi to speak at CPAC and deliver a major speech on the topic of the Iran strikes. It is better to serve those who love you rather than those that hate you. The problem with the haters is they have no leverage at all whatsoever because they have the spiritual gift of the female dog from their mother Babylon. The Iranian diaspora is actually typically more left leaning even up to really this year. Their eyes have been opened in a big way to the Queer for Balestine and leftwing's crocodile tears after seeing te lefting rooting for basically their oppressors. The GOP is smart to capitalize upon this, seal the deal so to speak, by showing solidarity with Pahlavi. Don't be discouraged by the baying of the wicked and the confused, the hypocrites and the whores, for they are greatly losing and even they sense it. In the wider view though the good guys are growing, the heroes are rising up to the occasion. Greater is he that is in us, than he that is in the world, praise Jesus.

 
IRGC thugs think that their threats and intimidation will endear them to their neighbors? Yea....that's nuts alright. As in megalomaniac sociopath with a criminal psychological profile brand of nuts.

Iran warns neighbours not to let ‘enemies run the war’ from their land

 
Houthis declare that they have entered the war. They were probably waiting for the time when Iran had depleted Israel's air defenses

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Surely the Houthis have read Joshua 9 but rejected the lessons ensconced within. And thus have refused to RECEIVE the God of Israel as their God.
Or Ruth.....the Houthis refuse to emulate her heartfelt words deeds?

Well then what more remains but the inevitable consequences?

Rth 1:16 - And Ruth said, Intreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God:

Jos 9:3 - And when the inhabitants of Gibeon heard what Joshua had done unto Jericho and to Ai,

Jos 9:6 - And they went to Joshua unto the camp at Gilgal, and said unto him, and to the men of Israel, We be come from a far country: now therefore make ye a league with us.

Jos 9:9 - And they said unto him, From a very far country thy servants are come because of the name of the LORD thy God: for we have heard the fame of him, and all that he did in Egypt,

Jos 9:10 - And all that he did to the two kings of the Amorites, that were beyond Jordan, to Sihon king of Heshbon, and to Og king of Bashan, which was at Ashtaroth.

Jos 9:15 - And Joshua made peace with them, and made a league with them, to let them live: and the princes of the congregation sware unto them

Mat 25:32 - And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: