Revolution in Iran

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You mean the proof proves the massacre happened and that at least hundreds were killed

Yes a few hundred killed as shown in pictures and videos not 30k


you maybe begrudgingly are becomign smarter and useful just by pivoting in a small way to the truth

You were aware that speculation is not "truth" right?

You keep forgetting that you have failed to provide "proof" that 30k people died.

So nice attempt at gas lighting me, but you continue to fail in your efforts.
 
Lol that's the numbers admitted by the people that conducted the massacre. First they tried to lie about it wholesale, predictable, then they admitted to 3k, then they admitted to 7k, then they in fairness couldn't admit to anymore after that as then the heroes of the age began to smite them as they deserve, praise Jesus.

LoL, Still far short of proving the claimed that 30k have been killed
 
LoL, Still far short of proving the claimed that 30k have been killed
When trying to lie about it and gaslight that it didn't happen, then admitting to 3k, then admitting to 7k means that enough is confirmed beyond the shadow of the doubt of their internet blackout and propaganda machine to ensure that these wicked pagans that did this thing and thought they could gaslight even God won't be around for the hard confirmed tally of the final count, praise Jesus.
 
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internet blackout and propaganda machine

How do you know the claim that 30k have been killed was not generated by their propaganda machine to try to make their citizens so scared that they won't rise up against the regime???

Why wouldn't they put out a rumor like that to make all their citizens scared?
 
When trying to lie about it and gaslight that it didn't happen, then admitting to 3k, then admitting to 7k means that enough is confirmed beyond the shadow of the doubt of their internet blackout and propaganda machine to ensure that these wicked pagans that did this thing and thought they could gaslight even God won't be around for the hard confirmed tally of the final count, praise Jesus.
Ignore feature is a big help to clear out the clutter on this thread....:cautious:
 
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How do you know the claim that 30k have been killed was not generated by their propaganda machine to try to make their citizens so scared that they won't rise up against the regime???

Why wouldn't they put out a rumor like that to make all their citizens scared?
That's actually a good question, but we know this is not the case because again Elon Musk's Starlink was able to pierce some of the blackout and get some of the images and videos out, which are the aforementioned and cited videos of hundreds of bodies, and other videos came to light. Then on top of this like the Millenials and Gen Z didn't forget they got massacred and began staging puppet show protests. All of these things are in this topic actually and early on too.

Ignore feature is a big help to clear out the clutter on this thread....:cautious:

I feel you on that, but he is kinda new too and is jumping in at the end, I empathize with the frustrration though as indeed yourself and me have most dilligently cover the actual news in the lead up to all this (along with ZNP and Gideon) before the stooges and anti-Israel people showed up. This one isn't too bad though, he's learning, i'll bear with him a little longer, but to just not guck up the topic I'll let off the gas a little. Let's all I guess check in on the latest news, let's get back to the present and I notice that the UAE which you've been covering well is back in the top of the mainstream news today.

 
No one book gives you the whole story. You have to understand the concept given in the Torah that if you don't repent the punishment is then seven times longer, but you get credit for time already served. If you understand that concept, then you can calculate the potential time period for the punishment of Israel and since the punishment for Judah and the ten tribes has two different starting points and they have two different lengths you can then determine the possible years in which they could return to Israel after repenting. However, the only year in which both together would return is 1948. Then Ezekiel has another prophecy that the two sticks will become one stick, meaning when they return they will all return together, hence it was pointing to 1948.

This interpretation is supported by Jeremiah saying Israel would go to Babylon for seventy years as a punishment and then Daniel reading this and realizing the year they would be allowed to return. That proves beyond any doubt that God operates in this way.

Not only so but the Lord saying "no one knows the day or the year" is a very strong indication that we could know the year.

Finally, what is the effect or impact of a teaching. Does it encourage you to dig into the word and watch for the Lord's coming, or does it tell you "don't worry about this, go back to sleep"? The flesh and the Spirit war against each other. The flesh wants you to sleep, the Holy Spirit wants you to "awake sleeper, and redeem the time because the days are evil". Every time Jesus said we did not know the day or hour He concluded with "watch, therefore". However, in Christianity when they teach "no one knows the day and hour" the conclusion is "therefore don't talk about this". Two different spirits.
There are many different interpretations of the prophetic timeline for Israel's return to the promised land and the second coming of Christ. Bible Scholars and Theologians are not in agreement with each other on the time of either event.

As I mentioned earlier, my Church doesn't believe that the prophecies which foretold Israel's return are speaking about Israel or the Hebrew Nation or the Jews. We believe they are describing the Church (which included all believers, Jews and Gentiles alike. We don't consider them as separate entities.

We also don't attempt to figure out when the Lord Jesus will return, because He said that nobody knows, but the Father. So why would anyone attempt to find out what Christ said, was hidden and nobody but the Father knows. The Lord Jesus could return today or in 1000 years, there is no way of predicting His return.

Our Minister teaches us to be ready for the return of Christ, at all times. That way we don't need to be concerned about when He might come.
 
Is your faith resting on what your pastor says or is it resting on a revelation of Jesus Christ in the word of God?

Galatians 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, 16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: 17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

Paul had already been burned by trusting in the religious leaders to teach him right, which is why he had persecuted the church. He wasn't going to make that mistake twice.
Exactly, Paul was indoctrinated by those teaching "false religion". So, when his eyes were opened, he realised it and then started teaching true religion himself.

We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water. My Minister is preaching Gods Word to us, we haven't found him teaching anything unbiblical or any false doctrines.

God has appointed Shepherds to lead us Sheep, God has given them the gift of discernment for teaching and preaching His Word to His people. Every one of us has an open bible during the sermon, so each of us can see if these things are so.

A faithful Minister must be appointed by God and the Church, watchout for those self appointed know it all, wise guys.
 
There are many different interpretations of the prophetic timeline for Israel's return to the promised land and the second coming of Christ. Bible Scholars and Theologians are not in agreement with each other on the time of either event.

As I mentioned earlier, my Church doesn't believe that the prophecies which foretold Israel's return are speaking about Israel or the Hebrew Nation or the Jews. We believe they are describing the Church (which included all believers, Jews and Gentiles alike. We don't consider them as separate entities.

We also don't attempt to figure out when the Lord Jesus will return, because He said that nobody knows, but the Father. So why would anyone attempt to find out what Christ said, was hidden and nobody but the Father knows. The Lord Jesus could return today or in 1000 years, there is no way of predicting His return.

Our Minister teaches us to be ready for the return of Christ, at all times. That way we don't need to be concerned about when He might come.
So let me see if I understand what you are saying.

1. Since Bible scholars and theologians are not in agreement might as well forget about it?

That sure makes it easy for Satan, disguise yourself as an angel of light, disagree and therefore no one knows.

2. Jesus said no body knows the year. Really? What verse is that. You see that is changing the word of God. Jesus never said that.

3. Your minister teaches you that you don't need to be concerned about when Jesus might come. OK, Jesus taught that we should watch. He taught that repeatedly. So your minister is teaching contrary to Jesus Christ.
 
Exactly, Paul was indoctrinated by those teaching "false religion". So, when his eyes were opened, he realised it and then started teaching true religion himself.

We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water. My Minister is preaching Gods Word to us, we haven't found him teaching anything unbiblical or any false doctrines.

God has appointed Shepherds to lead us Sheep, God has given them the gift of discernment for teaching and preaching His Word to His people. Every one of us has an open bible during the sermon, so each of us can see if these things are so.

A faithful Minister must be appointed by God and the Church, watchout for those self appointed know it all, wise guys.
You never found your minister teaching anything unbiblical? He taught you that you don't need to be concerned with when Jesus might return, and Jesus taught us that we must watch for His return. That teaching from your Minister is unbiblical. A counterfeit bill is not 100% wrong, it only needs to be 1% wrong to be counterfeit.
 
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Funny stuff. Back up singers Hegseth, Rubio and Vance who's eyeing Erika Kirk. I think the other 2 women are Melania and Trump's press secretary. Charlie Kirk and George Floyd (I can't breathe) in the audience. Epstein and Natanyahoo backstage

 
He taught you that you don't need to be concerned with when Jesus might return, and Jesus taught us that we must watch for His return.

Jesus made it easy to know without having to wade through complex charts and wall-of-text AI explanations that make peoples' eyes cross. When the trumpets begin to sound (Revelation 8:7) we will know that his return is not far away. Just as 7 trumpets preceded the ark of the covenant around Jericho, so too the 7 trumpets of God decribed in Revelation will precede the unveiling and coming of the true ark of God
 
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There are many different interpretations of the prophetic timeline for Israel's return to the promised land and the second coming of Christ. Bible Scholars and Theologians are not in agreement with each other on the time of either event.

As I mentioned earlier, my Church doesn't believe that the prophecies which foretold Israel's return are speaking about Israel or the Hebrew Nation or the Jews. We believe they are describing the Church (which included all believers, Jews and Gentiles alike. We don't consider them as separate entities.

We also don't attempt to figure out when the Lord Jesus will return, because He said that nobody knows, but the Father. So why would anyone attempt to find out what Christ said, was hidden and nobody but the Father knows. The Lord Jesus could return today or in 1000 years, there is no way of predicting His return.

Our Minister teaches us to be ready for the return of Christ, at all times. That way we don't need to be concerned about when He might come.
First you say that there are many interpretations of the massive trove of irrefutable non-arbitrary prophecies related to Israel the nation who you say WILL return to the promised land.

And then you say that you and your Church do not believe these prophecies, but rather deny and ignore them.

Who in their right mind would want to put up with that kind of schizoid nonsense in a Church or anywhere else?
 
Jesus made it easy to know without having to wade through complex charts and wall-of-text AI explanations that make peoples' eyes cross. When the trumpets begin to sound (Revelation 8:7) we will know that his return is not far away. Just as 7 trumpets preceded the ark of the covenant around Jericho, so too the 7 trumpets of God decribed in Revelation will precede the unveiling and coming of the true ark of God
100% wrong, 100% of the time. Your calling card.
 
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Trump addresses the nation about the status of Iran and what the decision shall come next, praise Jesus.
 
Jesus made it easy to know without having to wade through complex charts and wall-of-text AI explanations that make peoples' eyes cross. When the trumpets begin to sound (Revelation 8:7) we will know that his return is not far away. Just as 7 trumpets preceded the ark of the covenant around Jericho, so too the 7 trumpets of God decribed in Revelation will precede the unveiling and coming of the true ark of God
To be clear, we the Bride do NOT experience the time and place of wrath.
We are certainly raptured beforehand.

Furthermore, the 7 trumpets of Revelation are trumpets of JUDGEMENT and WARNING for those dwelling upon the earth.
And YES, some will in fact heed these warnings, repent and believe.

But I do agree that the Jericho trumpets ritual are an intentional microcosm and foreshadowing of those of Revelation 8, and do herald the Second Coming FOR ISRAEL.

However, as usual, you fail to rightly comprehend to whom these trumpet judgements are meant to afflict and affect. And why.
And as usual, you fail to understand that the PRIMARY purpose of the time of Jacobs trouble and Second Coming is the certain and sure REDEMPTION of the Nation Israel.

All other effects are secondary. Such as the salvation of the tribulation saint gentiles, condemnation of the beast and false prophet to the lake of fire ALIVE (after resurrecting them!), imprisoning of Satan, and the reconstitution and renewal of the planet earth.
 
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