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re: aborigal, native american and blacks
rev 5:9
mathew 13
the gospel goes forth in love and truth spead to every tribe and nation. the enemy of God comes right on it's tail. without dicernment to know the difference one can't distingush the wheat (planted first)and the enemy in hot persuit. If I can boldly ask you a question? the sword you hold in your hand, is it truth?
rev 5:9
mathew 13
the gospel goes forth in love and truth spead to every tribe and nation. the enemy of God comes right on it's tail. without dicernment to know the difference one can't distingush the wheat (planted first)and the enemy in hot persuit. If I can boldly ask you a question? the sword you hold in your hand, is it truth?
The thing is America can think they are divinely inspired but they are not following the Bible but wanting the appearance of the New Age Christ,and trying to incorporate paganism and the occult in to the minds of the youth so they will accept the New Age Christ in the future,which the Bible says he will not acknowledge a god above him,but recognize the god of forces,and will cause craft,the occult,to prosper in his hands.
America's agenda is to establish a world based on the occult,witchcraft,and to eventually cause the falling of all governments and religions,to have a world where man is god himself with no religious or governmental authority above them.
This is their manifest destiny and has nothing to do with the God of the Bible.Claiming to be a Christian nation takes the focus off what is really going on as they slowly implement their plan,a slow conditioning of the people and slow movement of this plan.
If America is a Christian nation they sure do a crappy job of expressing that Christian lifestyle,I mean a real crappy job of expressing that Christian lifestyle.America has so much filth in it,it is crazy.Pornography,greediness,arrogance,high divorce rates,fornication,adultery,beastiality,cussing and swearing,drugs,alcohol,cigarettes,stealing,the most people in prison,general hate,and fleshy pleasures,belittling people,cutting people down,gossiping,heaping money to themselves in a ludicrous fashion,love of entertainment,and general worldliness that God is against.
America a Christian nation,that is funny,because it seems like they are the most fleshy pleasure loving,self centered,and worldly people on the planet,but like I said the Christian nation is only to take the focus off what really is happening,and the filth and perversion they allow in America is to cause them to have the mindset necessary to accept the coming system they are trying to implement.
So while they claim they are a Christian nation,they must allow a non Christian atmosphere to implement their system causing a contradiction of what they claim,but it must be so,and to also make Christianity look bad because of the way people act in their country,which produces hypocrites in Christianity in the future because they are caught up in the flesh,and do not accept the Bible that demands holiness.
So the purpose of claiming America is a Christian nation is to make it look bad when they allow filth and perversion in America knowing in the future it will make Christianity look bad,and take people away from Christianity,for people will observe the perversion of America and the hypocrites who claim Christ,and say I do not want Christianity.
America is an occult nation that allows all religions to be practiced there,even Satanism,and they say they are a Christian nation.
Like I said if America is a Christian nation they are doing a real crappy job of showing it in Christian lifestyle.There are Christians in America but it is not a truly Christian nation,for America has lust of the eyes,lust of the flesh,and the pride of life than any other country.
America has 5 percent of the world's population,but almost a quarter of prisoners of all the prisoners in the world.
America's agenda is to establish a world based on the occult,witchcraft,and to eventually cause the falling of all governments and religions,to have a world where man is god himself with no religious or governmental authority above them.
This is their manifest destiny and has nothing to do with the God of the Bible.Claiming to be a Christian nation takes the focus off what is really going on as they slowly implement their plan,a slow conditioning of the people and slow movement of this plan.
If America is a Christian nation they sure do a crappy job of expressing that Christian lifestyle,I mean a real crappy job of expressing that Christian lifestyle.America has so much filth in it,it is crazy.Pornography,greediness,arrogance,high divorce rates,fornication,adultery,beastiality,cussing and swearing,drugs,alcohol,cigarettes,stealing,the most people in prison,general hate,and fleshy pleasures,belittling people,cutting people down,gossiping,heaping money to themselves in a ludicrous fashion,love of entertainment,and general worldliness that God is against.
America a Christian nation,that is funny,because it seems like they are the most fleshy pleasure loving,self centered,and worldly people on the planet,but like I said the Christian nation is only to take the focus off what really is happening,and the filth and perversion they allow in America is to cause them to have the mindset necessary to accept the coming system they are trying to implement.
So while they claim they are a Christian nation,they must allow a non Christian atmosphere to implement their system causing a contradiction of what they claim,but it must be so,and to also make Christianity look bad because of the way people act in their country,which produces hypocrites in Christianity in the future because they are caught up in the flesh,and do not accept the Bible that demands holiness.
So the purpose of claiming America is a Christian nation is to make it look bad when they allow filth and perversion in America knowing in the future it will make Christianity look bad,and take people away from Christianity,for people will observe the perversion of America and the hypocrites who claim Christ,and say I do not want Christianity.
America is an occult nation that allows all religions to be practiced there,even Satanism,and they say they are a Christian nation.
Like I said if America is a Christian nation they are doing a real crappy job of showing it in Christian lifestyle.There are Christians in America but it is not a truly Christian nation,for America has lust of the eyes,lust of the flesh,and the pride of life than any other country.
America has 5 percent of the world's population,but almost a quarter of prisoners of all the prisoners in the world.
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The issue at hand here is not about politics per se or which country is christian or not but about how christians should relate themselves to the civil magistrates or the powers that be. There are not a few conditions to be fulfilled before a christian can be subject in all matters to such an institution. But the institution by itself is not by necessity evil. The reformation condemned antinomian, lawless and anarchistic ideas who saw the state as inherently evil and called for rebel against authorities and rulers that had been authorized by God for good purposes. We may read from this confession.
Amen.
Amen.
R
There is only one that is Above All (Sovereign) The Lord God Almighty.
The Lord Jesus Christ is a foundation God has used to build his kingdom on this earth.
rev 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”
If the Kingdoms of this world are not the kingdoms of our God and of his Christ, then who's kingdoms are they Corey? Kingdoms of men? Kingdoms of Satan?
Man Governs man, ruthless men have ruthless Authority over them, spiritual and physical. I do not see why you have such and issue seeing Gods children follow his instruction, live at peace with all they can. Do good, trust in God to be Just and mercyfull towards them.
God has fortold all that is gonna happen (He knows) every Word he has spoken will come to pass. He is patient allowing all who will come to a knowledge of the truth to come. He has promised that death is not where it ends.
So we have 2 choices, We can fight against the World forces and fool ourselfs into believing we can change men and this world (all of us have inherent evil) Our we can Go to God our refuge and believe he will change us. He will make ways for us to have love, Joy, Peace, patience, kindness, goodness and self control with kaos all around us. we can believe if we trust in him, our life will play out as it should then we will face him and not be ashamed.. It all starts with us doing what is right in our homes, toward our family, toward our neighbor, even toward our enemy. enemies will stand or fall then will face God and judgment or reward for what they themselves have done. You( Men) can be at war with the world, with your family, with your neighbors, with your country, with your police, with God. Or you can be at peace. it's all gonna play out just like God said it will.
The men who slaughtered the American Indians are DEAD they face God.. The American Indians that were slaughtered are DEAD each Individual will face God.
So all we can do is live knowing we to will face God.
Man killed the Son of God in pursuing justice, believing the judgments of God gave them a right to judge Christ, believing they were good and the Son of God was evil. What does that tell you about men and about and mens judgement?
Love the Lord your God and love your neighbor because you to will die and face God, may his grace and peace be with you.
The Lord Jesus Christ is a foundation God has used to build his kingdom on this earth.
rev 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”
If the Kingdoms of this world are not the kingdoms of our God and of his Christ, then who's kingdoms are they Corey? Kingdoms of men? Kingdoms of Satan?
Man Governs man, ruthless men have ruthless Authority over them, spiritual and physical. I do not see why you have such and issue seeing Gods children follow his instruction, live at peace with all they can. Do good, trust in God to be Just and mercyfull towards them.
God has fortold all that is gonna happen (He knows) every Word he has spoken will come to pass. He is patient allowing all who will come to a knowledge of the truth to come. He has promised that death is not where it ends.
So we have 2 choices, We can fight against the World forces and fool ourselfs into believing we can change men and this world (all of us have inherent evil) Our we can Go to God our refuge and believe he will change us. He will make ways for us to have love, Joy, Peace, patience, kindness, goodness and self control with kaos all around us. we can believe if we trust in him, our life will play out as it should then we will face him and not be ashamed.. It all starts with us doing what is right in our homes, toward our family, toward our neighbor, even toward our enemy. enemies will stand or fall then will face God and judgment or reward for what they themselves have done. You( Men) can be at war with the world, with your family, with your neighbors, with your country, with your police, with God. Or you can be at peace. it's all gonna play out just like God said it will.
The men who slaughtered the American Indians are DEAD they face God.. The American Indians that were slaughtered are DEAD each Individual will face God.
So all we can do is live knowing we to will face God.
Man killed the Son of God in pursuing justice, believing the judgments of God gave them a right to judge Christ, believing they were good and the Son of God was evil. What does that tell you about men and about and mens judgement?
Love the Lord your God and love your neighbor because you to will die and face God, may his grace and peace be with you.
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Because many of us do evil, evil is done to us. Evil done to us, will never be an excuse before God for the evil we do. If we do evil in lawlessness and rebellion then the law does evil pursueing justice ,unjustly. it's all just evil.
Do good, there is no law against love.
If we suffer at the hands of evil men for doing good God is our avenger and rewarder... If we do evil God is our Judge. Death will not hide us from God.
The men that carried the gospel into Nations are not the Nations that destroyed men.
Those who hold the lights of God walk in love.
Not hard to tell the difference Corey.
Do good.
Do good, there is no law against love.
If we suffer at the hands of evil men for doing good God is our avenger and rewarder... If we do evil God is our Judge. Death will not hide us from God.
The men that carried the gospel into Nations are not the Nations that destroyed men.
Those who hold the lights of God walk in love.
Not hard to tell the difference Corey.
Do good.
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You're right CrimsonFlames,
I know my race. There're a law-making, black-balling bunch of hypocrites, looking overall. Make me sick. And it carries on. The Americans have NO right to invade other countries (they've got Bin Laden as pre-emptive defense,okay, now go home!)
It's even more annoying when imperialists use 'moral right';
and an utter abomination when they use the name of Christ.
So here's the dilemma.
How can Christians submit to authorities that are party to these things. ...to wars on foreign soil...or abortion...or other Godless activities?
That's the question of Romans 13 you're talking about aye.
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Well, for me. I don't subscribe to what they do, but I accept the laws of the land. And I do what God tells me to do.
I could make this into a long rant. Let me just say you wouldn't catch me in the armed forces.
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This is a good discussion, and there's more still I recon.
So far you've been abused and I think someone even said they'd pray for you.
Never mind.
Mauri ora.
I know my race. There're a law-making, black-balling bunch of hypocrites, looking overall. Make me sick. And it carries on. The Americans have NO right to invade other countries (they've got Bin Laden as pre-emptive defense,okay, now go home!)
It's even more annoying when imperialists use 'moral right';
and an utter abomination when they use the name of Christ.
So here's the dilemma.
How can Christians submit to authorities that are party to these things. ...to wars on foreign soil...or abortion...or other Godless activities?
That's the question of Romans 13 you're talking about aye.
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Well, for me. I don't subscribe to what they do, but I accept the laws of the land. And I do what God tells me to do.
I could make this into a long rant. Let me just say you wouldn't catch me in the armed forces.
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This is a good discussion, and there's more still I recon.
So far you've been abused and I think someone even said they'd pray for you.
Never mind.
Mauri ora.
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1 And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;
2 Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man:
3 And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary.
4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man;
5 Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.
6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with th
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Note: Do we have faith? who is are hope in? self? the government? men? demons?
9 And he spake this parable unto certain pharasy's which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Note: He saw hi self better then other men ?
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Note: he saw his own falling short.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Note: men that exalt themselves will be humbled and the humbled will be exalted.
15 And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
NOTE: do infants control their enviroment, gather men to oppress a people they see as evil? do infants over throw governments and presume them self better then others? do infants develop platforms of logic and convince men to see things as they see them and motivate men to pursue a cause?
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God
Note: His kingdom is not these kingdoms we now dwell in. who's kingdom are we dwelling in? the Lords or the worlds? if we see ourselfs better then anyone else, how are we any better then those we speak against?
Workout our own salvation with fear and trembling and the one who justifies will justify us.
2 Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man:
3 And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary.
4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man;
5 Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.
6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with th
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Note: Do we have faith? who is are hope in? self? the government? men? demons?
9 And he spake this parable unto certain pharasy's which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Note: He saw hi self better then other men ?
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Note: he saw his own falling short.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Note: men that exalt themselves will be humbled and the humbled will be exalted.
15 And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
NOTE: do infants control their enviroment, gather men to oppress a people they see as evil? do infants over throw governments and presume them self better then others? do infants develop platforms of logic and convince men to see things as they see them and motivate men to pursue a cause?
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God
Note: His kingdom is not these kingdoms we now dwell in. who's kingdom are we dwelling in? the Lords or the worlds? if we see ourselfs better then anyone else, how are we any better then those we speak against?
Workout our own salvation with fear and trembling and the one who justifies will justify us.
The federal govt. was originally designed for the individual states to be soveriegn over it. The anti-federalists were mostly correct in all their fears of a central govt. After the civil war the federal govt. became soveriegn over the states. Not by law or by vote but by violence.
Federal Reserve... The only thing federal about them is that they control the economy of the US. Other than that they are their own separate entity not under any authority of the US at all.
Romans 13 is telling me that God intended for this. If it all unravels, it is Gods plan. If it turns into socialism or a police state, then once again Gods plan. We are subject unto the higher authorities even if they break their own laws. This one has been a hard one for me for a long time... How do you pursue peace, and Love and righteousness and Joy if you are worried about politics and what will happen when selfish people vote for other selfish people to help them? I'm not worried. This is probably how its been since the beginning.
R
We can help those oppressed in this world or we can gather weapons, men, causes and become an oppresser.
We can step on people to create an illusion that we are higher then other men by pressing men down below us or we can humble ourselfs and lift men up that have been trampled.
When we climb to the top of depraved men by pressing evil men down but what have we acomplished? We are still gonna die and face God. it's all illusion, deception and distraction.
Pursue God in Spirit and you will not fulfill the desires of the flesh.
Romans 13 is an attitude of grace towards men, not a law. Law is given for wicked men to expose mens wickednessl.
Law exposes the wickedness of both those who break moral laws and those who create and enforce law.
Romans 13 1-7 comes from and is confirmed as an instruction to men from God, in Deuteronomy.
If we can see our own wickedness (self) we can turn to God who can actually remove our iniquity, heal us from our rebellious spirit and cover our sins, then we can dwell in his kingdom in peace.
God is chooseing people to live in an eternal kingdom of love, Joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness and self control. We need to be reborn if we desire to abide in Gods kingdom. It is not a kingdom of this world. Flesh will not inherit his kingdom, so flesh dwells in the kingdoms of this world and God hopes for us to see.
Thank you Corey for the opertunity to testify to the Kingdom of God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come all who are thirsty and drink freely of the eternal water of life, it is a gift.
We can step on people to create an illusion that we are higher then other men by pressing men down below us or we can humble ourselfs and lift men up that have been trampled.
When we climb to the top of depraved men by pressing evil men down but what have we acomplished? We are still gonna die and face God. it's all illusion, deception and distraction.
Pursue God in Spirit and you will not fulfill the desires of the flesh.
Romans 13 is an attitude of grace towards men, not a law. Law is given for wicked men to expose mens wickednessl.
Law exposes the wickedness of both those who break moral laws and those who create and enforce law.
Romans 13 1-7 comes from and is confirmed as an instruction to men from God, in Deuteronomy.
If we can see our own wickedness (self) we can turn to God who can actually remove our iniquity, heal us from our rebellious spirit and cover our sins, then we can dwell in his kingdom in peace.
God is chooseing people to live in an eternal kingdom of love, Joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness and self control. We need to be reborn if we desire to abide in Gods kingdom. It is not a kingdom of this world. Flesh will not inherit his kingdom, so flesh dwells in the kingdoms of this world and God hopes for us to see.
Thank you Corey for the opertunity to testify to the Kingdom of God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come all who are thirsty and drink freely of the eternal water of life, it is a gift.