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Desdichado said:
Hahahaha. I'm a huge Tolkien fan, but I do not think I would've gotten along too well with the man.
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He and Dyson did not get along at all. Funnily, Tolkien was more savvy than Lewis. Tolkien suspected that Charles Williams was not all that met the eye. Williams did not reveal to his friends his dabbling in magic. Lewis thought Williams was very pure and holy. Williams had some other shady stuff going on in his personal life. Williams is extremely fascinating.

Tolkien was a very good man, he loved his family and his Church and went to Mass every day. I hate for Tinuviel to know this, but he did not like Dorothy Sayer or Lord Peter Whimsy.
 
They were not fond of American writers in general.

When I read that, my first thought was "Okay, you screwballs are good, but neither of you penned something to the level of Moby Dick. Ha."


La_Vie_En_Rose said:
He and Dyson did not get along at all. Funnily, Tolkien was more savvy than Lewis. Tolkien suspected that Charles Williams was not all that met the eye. Williams did not reveal to his friends his dabbling in magic. Lewis thought Williams was very pure and holy. Williams had some other shady stuff going on in his personal life. Williams is extremely fascinating.

Tolkien was a very good man, he loved his family and his Church and went to Mass every day. I hate for Tinuviel to know this, but he did not like Dorothy Sayer or Lord Peter Whimsy.
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Desdichado said:
They were not fond of American writers in general.

When I read that, my first thought was "Okay, you screwballs are good, but neither of you penned something to the level of Moby Dick. Ha."
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That’s not completely true, Lewis read very widely and got the inspiration for the frame of one of his stories from an American science fiction short story.

Sayer was British.

Is Moby Dick so very great? I’ve not yet read it. I know the villain is a monstrous, white whale.
 
Go to amazon and order it this instant. :P

It's my favorite novel of all time. Bar none. Full stop.

The whale is possibly symbolic of great primordial forces. Uncontrollable nature and providence. The "villain" (if we can call him that) is Captain Ahab, who is on a single-minded quest to wreak hopeless revenge on the beast.

It's like a Cormac McCarthy epic only better-written and set in the ocean instead of the Wild West.

La_Vie_En_Rose said:
That’s not completely true, Lewis read very widely and got the inspiration for the frame of one of his stories from an American science fiction short story.

Sayer was British.

Is Moby Dick so very great? I’ve not yet read it. I know the villain is a monstrous, white whale.
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When you think of Des' favorite writers, think M&M

Milton & Melville. Arararar. Can't go wrong.
 
Desdichado said:
Go to amazon and order it this instant. :P

It's my favorite novel of all time. Bar none. Full stop.

The whale is possibly symbolic of great primordial forces. Uncontrollable nature and providence. The "villain" (if we can call him that) is Captain Ahab, who is on a single-minded quest to wreak hopeless revenge on the beast.

It's like a Cormac McCarthy epic only better-written and set in the ocean instead of the Wild West.
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Oh, I have a copy already. I’ve just never read it. I’ve not read Cormac McCarthy, either.

So Ahab is the villain since he is trying to subdue nature? Makes sense, Melville was a Romantic. I’ve read Billy Budd and Bartleby the Scrivener, so I would probably like Moby Dick. I think I can handle the technical terms.
 
Worth it. It'll change your life.

About Ahab- yes. Perhaps I'm a little too sympathetic with Ahab, but I hesitate to call him a villain. More of a deranged tragic figure.

McCarthy is good. Blood Meridian​ is my favorite.

La_Vie_En_Rose said:
Oh, I have a copy already. I’ve just never read it. I’ve not read Cormac McCarthy, either.

So Ahab is the villain since he is trying to subdue nature? Makes sense, Melville was a Romantic. I’ve read Billy Budd and Bartleby the Scrivener, so I would probably like Moby Dick. I think I can handle the technical terms.
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Desdichado said:
Worth it. It'll change your life.

About Ahab- yes. Perhaps I'm a little too sympathetic with Ahab, but I hesitate to call him a villain. More of a deranged tragic figure.

McCarthy is good. Blood Meridian​ is my favorite.
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I don’t know about it changing my life. It seems a masculine sort of book. I don’t know that women can totally sympathize with the desire to conquer the wilderness and all that.

I will have to put Blood Meridian and Moby Dick on my “to read” list along with the Christian magician, Charles Williams.
 
That's funny. My sister read it and ever since she's been into sea chanties, nautical terms, and the like.

But she had to grow up with me so she's bound to be a little off. :P

La_Vie_En_Rose said:
I don’t know about it changing my life. It seems a masculine sort of book. I don’t know that women can totally sympathize with the desire to conquer the wilderness and all that.

I will have to put Blood Meridian and Moby Dick on my “to read” list along with the Christian magician, Charles Williams.
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Desdichado said:
That's funny. My sister read it and ever since she's been into sea chanties, nautical terms, and the like.

But she had to grow up with me so she's bound to be a little off. :P
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I know nautical terms, I just don’t know that I can fully sympathize with the need to conquer. It seems foreign to me. I always feel sorry for pioneer women dragged into the wilderness by their husbands’ wanderlust. If there were no men, I doubt half the world would be explored.
 
Let's dine at Costco :rolleyes:

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