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I think that that the phrase "it is finished" is too vague of a statement to draw the conclusion that it means an abolished law. I could tell u an interpretation that would fit along with my beliefs about the rest of scripture, but this scripture alone can be interpreted many ways.

Its possible that it could mean the end of a covenant, but new covenant doesn't mean new law.
WOW - did u miss breakfast or something
 
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That statement isn't in the least bit vague to me. He didn't abolish the law, he fulfilled it. I don't know why this is so difficult to grasp.

If someone just randomly said "it is finished" you would have no idea what they were talking about. It is very vague... you have your beliefs on what it means based on preexisting beliefs from other things in the the bible, church, etc.
 
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If someone just randomly said "it is finished" you would have no idea what they were talking about. It is very vague... you have your beliefs on what it means based on preexisting beliefs from other things in the the bible, church, etc.
Nobody random said this. Hence, why it isn't the least bit vague. I don't glom on to pre-existing beliefs. The bible (NT) wasn't written when He accomplished this and the church did not yet exist, etc.
 
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Post a scripture
Uh, this one comes to mind - Repent

“Land of Zebulun and land of Naphtali, the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles—
the people living in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death, a light has dawned.”
From that time on Jesus began to preach, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near.”
Matt 4 : 16-18
 
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Nobody random said this. Hence, why it isn't the least bit vague. I don't glom on to pre-existing beliefs. The bible (NT) wasn't written when He accomplished this and the church did not yet exist, etc.
If I walked past a stranger on the street and the only thing they said to me was "it is finished"... I would think they weren't all there mentally. The phrase by itself... WITH NO OTHER CONTEXT... is vague.

Your other beliefs about scripture is what makes you (and many others) think you know what he means by that phrase.
 
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Uh, this one comes to mind - Repent

“Land of Zebulun and land of Naphtali, the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles—
the people living in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death, a light has dawned.”
From that time on Jesus began to preach, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near.”
Matt 4 : 16-18
Ok cool, what do you think repent means?
 
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If I walked past a stranger on the street and the only thing they said to me was "it is finished"... I would think they weren't all there mentally. The phrase by itself... WITH NO OTHER CONTEXT... is vague.

Your other beliefs about scripture is what makes you (and many others) think you know what he means by that phrase.
What did Jesus 'finish' on the Cross - Please elaborate - scripture please - thank you
 
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What did Jesus 'finish' on the Cross - Please elaborate - scripture please - thank you

John 19:28-30

28 After this, when Jesus realized that everything was now completed, he said (in order to fulfill the Scripture), “I’m thirsty.” 29 A jar of sour wine was standing there, so they put a sponge full of the wine on a branch of hyssop and held it to his mouth. 30 After Jesus had taken the wine, he said, “It is finished.” Then he bowed his head and released his spirit.

There are too many options to what he could have been talking about. I would want to research the different possibilities more, and not make any assumtions...

"It is finished"...

1. ... could have been talking about the fulfillment of scripture he mentioned in verse 28.
2. ... could have been talking about the fulmillment of the first covenant by his body paying the for the earthly penalties associated with breaking the laws.
3. ...could have been referring to the fulfillment of passover with him being the sacrificial lamb (I believe the spring feasts have been fulfilled and the autumn feasts will be fulfilled when he returns).
4. ...could have simply been referring to his role here in the flesh on earth.

Those are some options that come to mind. I only highlighted the word "completed" in verse 28, because it is the same greek word used for "finished" in verse 30.
 
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From what you are attempting to do - rejecting the fulfillment of the Law and the Will of God.
Just asked a simple question about the scripture you posted. I think a lot of misinterpretations happen in scripture because we don't define these words that seem to only be used in the church.
 
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That statement isn't in the least bit vague to me. He didn't abolish the law, he fulfilled it. I don't know why this is so difficult to grasp.
sometime people r saying the same thing and still fight..Sometime 2 know takes away our ability to listsen
 
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Just asked a simple question about the scripture you posted. I think a lot of misinterpretations happen in scripture because we don't define these words that seem to only be used in the church.
1.) You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
John 5:39

2.) Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come— In the volume of the book it is written of Me— To do Your will, O God.’ ”
Hebrews 10:7

3.) Because they were ignorant of God’s righteousness and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness
Romans 10:4

4.) For Christ is the end of the law, to bring righteousness to everyone who believes.
Romans 10:5


These four Commands of God are for you to follow IF you want to inherit Eternal Life.

And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? Luke 18:18

Don't be like this Ruler who under estimated who he was speaking to and went away very sad.
 
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1.) You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
John 5:39

2.) Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come— In the volume of the book it is written of Me— To do Your will, O God.’ ”
Hebrews 10:7

3.) Because they were ignorant of God’s righteousness and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness
Romans 10:4

4.) For Christ is the end of the law, to bring righteousness to everyone who believes.
Romans 10:5


These four Commands of God are for you to follow IF you want to inherit Eternal Life.

And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? Luke 18:18

Don't be like this Ruler who under estimated who he was speaking to and went away very sad.
You could have just answered the question.
 
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You could have just answered the question.
No, it is important for you - the Lord has finished the work that He was sent to do.

If, we fail to Rest in Him, we refuse God's Sabbath Rest and will be cast out.

i know you don't want that - neither do i - Amen
 
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No, it is important for you - the Lord has finished the work that He was sent to do.

If, we fail to Rest in Him, we refuse God's Sabbath Rest and will be cast out.

i know you don't want that - neither do i - Amen
Umm ok
 

Duckybill

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did i not say you lost something along the way
I quoted you. Are you retracting your comment?

"anyone that refuses or works on His Sabbath shall never see LIFE"

No Jesus is not the Sabbath. lol
 

Duckybill

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wear songlasses - it helps u 2 c

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,
You work on the Sabbath and then say:

"anyone that refuses or works on His Sabbath shall never see LIFE"

You need help!
 

Duckybill

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All of mankind has only Two Choices - To believe God or deny Him.

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. John 3:18

Do you remember when Jesus said to the Devil and also to the Religious Leaders this - "It is written"
Again, you change the subject. You preach Sabbath and work on Sabbath. How is that not utter hypocrisy?