sabbath

[cv5]

Same debate and same verses, over and over.
You'll believe what you want in the end. But i can't believe that the Law of love and moral code written by God on stone can change or disappear. Stealing, lying, taking Gods name in vain is still wrong today but most think the sabbath is not relevant. The new testament seems to contradict itself because some verses say the law is abolished and others say we should keep them. It all makes sense if you understand which law it is talking about and the right meaning. One was added because of transgressions. And sin is the transgtession of the law.
Logic tells me they can't be the same law. Gal 3:19, 1 John 3:4.

All you need to do is write down each and every one and post them all here for us review.
Don't miss one. Don't miss any.

 

[cv5]

True there is a new covenant.
But please read all of Heb 8 and see the context. The old was the laws and ordanaces given to point the people to Jesus. The shadow laws that aren't needed now that Jesus has come.
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
No need for blood offerings because is our perfect lamb.
The Sabbath was made holy before sin, and God wants to put the law in our hearts, why do most people refuse to enjoy the blessing of the sabbath.

Christians have entered into their rest. Now. Each and every day.
Hope that helps.

 

[mailmandan]

True there is a new covenant.
But please read all of Heb 8 and see the context. The old was the laws and ordanaces given to point the people to Jesus. The shadow laws that aren't needed now that Jesus has come.
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
No need for blood offerings because is our perfect lamb.
The Sabbath was made holy before sin, and God wants to put the law in our hearts, why do most people refuse to enjoy the blessing of the sabbath.

Hebrews 4:9 - So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. (NASB)
*Notice that the Greek word "sabbatismos" is used nowhere else in the Bible.

As W. E. Vine, Greek Dictionary points out: SABBATISMOS (4520), a Sabbath-keeping, is used in Heb. 4:9, R.V., "a Sabbath rest," A.V. marg., "a keeping of a Sabbath" (akin to sabbatizoµ, to keep the Sabbath, used, e.g., in Ex. 16:30, not in the N.T.); here the Sabbath-keeping is the perpetual Sabbath rest to be enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in their fellowship with the Father and the Son, in contrast to the weekly Sabbath under the Law. Because this Sabbath rest is the rest of God Himself, its full fruition is yet future, though believers now enter into it. Why do people dwell more on the shadow than they do the reality? (Colossians 2:16-17)

Although God's rest on the seventh day (Genesis 2:3) did foreshadow a future Sabbath law, there is no Biblical record of the Sabbath before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt. *Nowhere in Scripture is there any hint that Sabbath keeping was practiced from Adam to Moses. The Word of God makes it clear that Sabbath observance was a sign between God and Israel: “The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested” (Exodus 31:16-17). After commanding Sabbath observance in Deuteronomy 15:12–14, Moses gives the reason the Sabbath was given to the nation Israel: “Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the Lord your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day” (Deuteronomy 5:15).

Are you an Israelite who was a slave in Egypt? Can you show me in the NT where the Church is commanded to keep the Sabbath day with all it's rules and regulations? Why don't you explain to me exactly how you keep the Sabbath day? Do you simply rest on Saturday and call that keeping the Sabbath day? How can someone keep a particular law when they only keep part of it? Do you disregard all the rules and regulations that went along with keeping the Sabbath day? (Exodus 16:29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19; Amos 8:5).

 

[Locoponydirtman]

I know it's human nature to want to do the thing that secures us. We want to put on the seat belt, or put the helmet on. We all want to say that we did the thing, and because we did the thing we are good. We locked the door and made sure the stove was off, and bought the insurance, but Christ has made it clear that it don't work that way. He did the thing and all the things were just reflections of him anyway, we just have to trust that he did the thing for us, and that there is no thing for us to do but relax in the knowledge that he did it already and it's good because him.

 

[JaumeJ]

True there is a new covenant.
But please read all of Heb 8 and see the context. The old was the laws and ordanaces given to point the people to Jesus. The shadow laws that aren't needed now that Jesus has come.
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
No need for blood offerings because is our perfect lamb.
The Sabbath was made holy before sin, and God wants to put the law in our hearts, why do most people refuse to enjoy the blessing of the sabbath.

Have I not posted the very same techings dozens of times over the years. ?

Many, through lip service, tell us they do not have to obey the law because they love...… The two great laws of love are comprised of all the law that remains.

Now listen once to what I have always posted. Jesus Christ did not abolish the law, He fulfilled all that needed to be by the old covenant, any law without love or mercy just does not fit as yet existing to be obeyed. He did make the laws of thepriesthood, food, temple rituals from washing the hands to sacrificing animals, and more but all that remain, not many, make up the morality that must come with actually loving others. DSome of the laws are actually prophecy also, and they are true to this day. Yes it all points, as so many say to Jesus for it is all about Him, but as He teaches, and I understand when I repeat it, anyone who gteaches against the least of the laws will be the least in the Kingdom.........Would I teach against moving my neighbor's landmark simply to make a material gain for myself, I do not beliee so. Would you teach dto do such a thing? I do not think so. This is one of the least of the laws but it builds up to loving your neighbor and in so doing loving theFather..


If you do not know what I am saying , as you have suggested to me, learn all of the Word. I have been a student of the Word since the 1960's and I do not plan to stop now, for I know very little, but I tell you what I have learned is from Jesus.

 

[TMS]

I know it's human nature to want to do the thing that secures us. We want to put on the seat belt, or put the helmet on. We all want to say that we did the thing, and because we did the thing we are good. We locked the door and made sure the stove was off, and bought the insurance, but Christ has made it clear that it don't work that way. He did the thing and all the things were just reflections of him anyway, we just have to trust that he did the thing for us, and that there is no thing for us to do but relax in the knowledge that he did it already and it's good because him.

I agree that Jesus did it all, we can't save ourselves by keeping the law.
Gal2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
People don't steal and choose to not commit adultery today because it is the right thing to do.
If you love me keep my commandments John 14:15.
I am not under the law when i am in the Spirit because while the Spirit leads i do not sin. If i do sin because i reject the Spirits leading, i am freed from the law by the blood of Jesus.

But do i make void the law and sin. ???

Do i break the sabbath that grace may abound? Do i continuously steal that grace may abound?
Sin is to break the law, or the law points out what sin is. If the law could have been removed, or changed than why did Jesus die.?

 

[TMS]

Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

The Sabbath was the largest law and God said remember it.

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

The Sabbath was made at creation for all men. No Jews or gentiles. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath.

Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
(Remember the law was not made void. Rom 3:31)
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. 12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

The law is holy, spiritual and good, it isn't against us or Gods grace. We are freed from the law by grace, but it is still our guide to right and wrong. Jesus obeyed it perfectly so we should look to copy Him.

 

[cv5]

Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

The Sabbath was the largest law and God said remember it.

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

The Sabbath was made at creation for all men. No Jews or gentiles. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath.

Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
(Remember the law was not made void. Rom 3:31)
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. 12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

The law is holy, spiritual and good, it isn't against us or Gods grace. We are freed from the law by grace, but it is still our guide to right and wrong. Jesus obeyed it perfectly so we should look to copy Him.

Nope. All Christians have the law fulfilled on their behalf. Sabbath keeping is at best optional.
Paul could not possibly be more clear. Or Peter for that matter.

 

[JamOn]

If you were living "under the law" apart from grace it would be. Stiff penalties for Sabbath breaking.

People have a tendency to see people with respect and love of the law in its fullness (with Jesus) as being legalistic or living under the law. With study I think most believers would agree that is not what is occurring, just understanding a little deeper. Something that isn't laid on everyone's heart it seems.

I'm not saying you specifically...just that people do and I believe he was just stating his position.

this has zero to do with what I asked the other poster and it wasn’t towards you.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

I agree that Jesus did it all, we can't save ourselves by keeping the law.
Gal2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
People don't steal and choose to not commit adultery today because it is the right thing to do.
If you love me keep my commandments John 14:15.
I am not under the law when i am in the Spirit because while the Spirit leads i do not sin. If i do sin because i reject the Spirits leading, i am freed from the law by the blood of Jesus.

But do i make void the law and sin. ???

Do i break the sabbath that grace may abound? Do i continuously steal that grace may abound?
Sin is to break the law, or the law points out what sin is. If the law could have been removed, or changed than why did Jesus die.?

As Paul said let each man be convinced in his own mind, the man who esteems one day above another does it unto the Lord, the man who esteems all days the same also does so unto the Lord. So it is written and so it shall be done. May you enjoy your Sabbath celebrations immensely and the Lord bless you in it fully.

 

[JamOn]

As Paul said let each man be convinced in his own mind, the man who esteems one day above another does it unto the Lord, the man who esteems all days the same also does so unto the Lord. So it is written and so it shall be done. May you enjoy your Sabbath celebrations immensely and the Lord bless you in it fully.

Good post and that’s about what I was looking for, I don’t set aside just one day, so I was asking others what and how they observe a day. should I or shouldn’t I you kind of answered that. well done.

 

[TMS]

As Paul said let each man be convinced in his own mind, the man who esteems one day above another does it unto the Lord, the man who esteems all days the same also does so unto the Lord. So it is written and so it shall be done. May you enjoy your Sabbath celebrations immensely and the Lord bless you in it fully.

Thanks
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Are the 10 commandments shadows of Jesus?
The yearly sabbaths where, and the laws given to moses that point to and reveil Jesus are shadows.
Many sabbaths were kept on certain days depending on the ceremonies and feasts they celebrated.
Jewish people were pushing these laws that were nail to the cross so paul explained that it wasn't necessary.

Jam 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. note
12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James and Paul don't contradict each other.
The law will not save us.
But for the same reason that we try to obey the other 9 we should obey the 4th commandment.

 

[TMS]

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

 

[TMS]

Nope. All Christians have the law fulfilled on their behalf. Sabbath keeping is at best optional.
Paul could not possibly be more clear. Or Peter for that matter.

True the law was fulfilled on our behalf. We can't save ourselves.
Jesus came to same us from sin, not in our sin (set us free not leave us in bondage). Paul clearly states that sin is breaking the law and just because we are forgiven by the grace of Jesus, we should not

Rom 6: 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
We are not under the laws condemnation but we are told not to make the law void.
continue in sin.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

MATT. 5:17.
Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

JOHN 5:46.
For had you believed Moses, you would have believed Me: for he wrote of Me.

ISAIAH 66:23.
And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another,
shall all flesh come to worship before Me, saith The LORD.

MATT. 19:17.
And He said unto him, Why callest thou Me good? there is none good but One, that is, God:
but if you wilt enter into life, keep the Commandments.

JOHN 14:15.
If you LOVE ME, keep My Commandments.

1JOHN 3:22.
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His Commandments,
and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

The two commandments or the ten commandments?
The reason I ask Is because GODs standard Is perfection and no man could keep the ten Commandments

 

[mailmandan]

Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

So according to your argument, Jesus did not fulfill the law and believers are still under the law and not under grace?

The Sabbath was the largest law and God said remember it.

Who was God speaking to when He said, "remember the Sabbath day in Exodus 20:8?" Was He speaking to the Church, the body of Christ in the New Testament OR Israel in the Old Testament? *Verse 2 - I am the Lord your God, who brought YOU out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Who is YOU?

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

In regards to Mark 2:27, this statement was in response to the accusation by the Pharisees that His disciples were breaking the law regarding resting on the Sabbath while going through some fields and plucking heads of grain (Matthew 12:108l Mark 2:23-28; Luke 6:1-5).

Jesus responded by giving an example from the Old Testament that David was once in need of food and was given consecrated bread that was only lawful for the priests to eat (1 Samuel 21:1-61). The bread had served a practical need for David and his followers, just as with Jesus and His disciples, the grain served a practical need. David and his men were not acting sinfully in eating the showbread, and neither were Jesus’ disciples acting sinfully in plucking heads of grain on the Sabbath. Jesus concludes, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath." (Mark 2:27-28) Jesus' response to the accusing Pharisees contains two important points.

First, the Sabbath was intended to help people, not burden them. In contrast with the grueling daily work as slaves in Egypt, the Israelites were commanded to take a day of rest each week under the Mosaic Law. The Pharisees had turned the Sabbath into a burden, adding restrictions beyond what God’s law said. The disciples had not broken God’s law; they had only violated the Pharisees’ legalistic, interpretation of the law. Jesus reminded the Pharisees of the original intent of the Sabbath rest. Jesus statement does not teach that the Sabbath was made for all mankind, as you suppose.

Jesus said, "the Sabbath was made for man," not all mankind. When Scripture is meant to be inclusive of all mankind it is clear. See (Matthew 28:19; John 3:16; Acts 2:17; I Timothy 2:4; Titus 2:11). These verses clearly indicate that when God offers something to all mankind He clearly offers it to all.

The Sabbath was made at creation for all men. No Jews or gentiles. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath.

Show me the word "Sabbath" in the book of Genesis. The word "Sabbath" first appears in Exodus 16:23 - Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.

Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
(Remember the law was not made void. Rom 3:31)
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. 12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

The law is holy, spiritual and good, it isn't against us or Gods grace. We are freed from the law by grace, but it is still our guide to right and wrong. Jesus obeyed it perfectly so we should look to copy Him.

Nobody has stated that the law is void or that it's no good. The law was our tutor to bring us to Christ so that we may be justified by faith. But after faith has come we are no longer under a tutor. We are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:24-26) Faith in Christ is the proper response to the law, for what the law could not do, Christ alone can and did do. Salvation through faith in Christ alone does not make the law void (Romans 3:31) rather, it fulfills the law because prior to Christ no one ever perfectly obeyed the law.

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Sadly, I have heard SDA's quote this verse to justify teaching salvation by "grace plus law, faith plus works."

 

[mailmandan]

I agree that Jesus did it all, we can't save ourselves by keeping the law.
Gal2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Amen!

People don't steal and choose to not commit adultery today because it is the right thing to do.
If you love me keep my commandments John 14:15.
I am not under the law when i am in the Spirit because while the Spirit leads i do not sin. If i do sin because i reject the Spirits leading, i am freed from the law by the blood of Jesus.

References for "you shall not steal" (Romans 13:9-10; Ephesians 4:28) and "you shall not commit adultery" (Romans 13:9-10; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10) are reiterated in the New Testament. What do you believe it means to "keep" my commandments? How do you define keep?

But do i make void the law and sin. ???

No.

Do i break the sabbath that grace may abound?

How does the Church/the body of Christ break the sabbath when believers are not commanded to keep the sabbath in the New Testament? The sabbath was the shadow and Christ is the reality. (Colossians 2:16-17)

Do i continuously steal that grace may abound?

No and nobody is saying to go out and steal and sin all you want.

Sin is to break the law, or the law points out what sin is. If the law could have been removed, or changed than why did Jesus die.?

If righteousness comes by the law then Christ died in vain. (Galatians 2:21) It sounds to me like you are trying to have your cake and eat it too.

 

[lightbearer]

Hebrews 4:9 - So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

*So here the Sabbath rest is the perpetual rest to be enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in their fellowship with Jesus Christ, in contrast to keeping the weekly seventh day Sabbath under the Law.

That is not what Hebrews 4:9 is speaking of. Please follow along.

So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
(Heb 4:9,10 )

When and where did God cease from His own works? Well it just so happens that the writer of Hebrews tell us.

For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
(Heb 4:4-5 KJV)

 

[Grandpa]

Genesis 2:2-3
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

So God blessed this seventh day and sanctified it because He Rested.

Hebrews 4:9-10
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.


See here the emphasis is REST. There is a REST for the People of God. Those People of God who have entered into His Rest have ceased from their own works.

Is it accomplished by working at the law, i.e. resting on saturdays? No, of course not. It is accomplished by Grace.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.


Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.


Are you blessed by your work at the law?

Or are you blessed by Grace, by the Lord Jesus Christ?

Galatians 3:9-11
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Romans 9:30-32
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

 

[Wall]

why is the sabbath not been kept by all Christians? I need guidance please

Scripture fore told us thats the way its was gonna be

ISAIAH 30 [8] Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever: [9] That this is A REBELLIOUS PEOPLE, lying children, children THAT WILL NOT HEAR THE LAW OF THE LORD: [10] WHICH SAY to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, SPEAK UNTO US SMOOTH THINGS, prophesy deceits: 11] Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us. [12] Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon: [13] Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as A BREACH READY TO FALL, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant. [14] And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit. [15] FOR THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD, THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL; IN RETURNING AND REST SHALL YE BE SAVED; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: AND YE WOULD NOT.

Just as the scriptures fore told. Returning and rest? They would not!