Salvation Not Possible Without Works

[SeaBass]

I find it difficult to read what you write. You have no intent to allow Gods word to illuminate your soul. You have determined what you think is the truth and no one even God is going to change your mind.

For you it's all about appearing to be correct. I fear that the Lord has perfectly described where you are in relation to the truth. 2 Tim 3:1-7 especially the last part of verse 7 "never able to come to the knowledge of the truth".

God is patient and merciful. One day when you have run yourself all the way down to where all seems without hope I pray that you will look up and ask God for mercy.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

You first say men are "dead" and can do nothing until God's spirit first "moves' upon him.

But then you say men must come to Christ. How can men come to Christ if men are spiritually dead and unable to do anything?

THis means God must FIRST "move" upon a man BEFORE he can come to Christ. So how does God decide which men He will "move" upon so they can come to Christ and which men God will NOT "move" upon leaving them unable to come to Christ?

 

[SeaBass]

The time of the cross was not random but was an appointed time for the Lamb of God to come and take away the sin of the world. It was for all men for all have sinned. The lost soul is worth more that all that is in the world but the redemption of that soul in precious in God's sight. When this gospel of Christ is presented to the soul of a man, that man is being given an opportunity and accepted time, by grace through faith, to receive the power of salvation through the agency of the Holy Spirit. This is also an appointed time that God has set aside for men to hear and believe the gospel. When the gospel is preached and it reaches the ear and heart of a man, God awaits with all of heaven in expectation for any unrighteous man to put their trust in the gospel that He might impute His righteousness through their faith in His Son. This is not random but it is an accepted time when God meets man and justifies and imputes His righteousness through the activity of faith to a sinful man who has heard and trusted in the cross of Christ. There is absolutely NO WORKS on man's part, just the work of grace operating through faith to bring salvation to an unworthy and undeserving soul.

BUt I cannot tell by reading what you post here why God would wash "eternallygratfull" yet leave other men unwashed.

You post "When this gospel of Christ is presented to the soul of a man,.."

You post "When the gospel is preached and it reaches the ear and heart of a man,.."

You post "activity of faith to a sinful man who has heard and trusted in the cross of Christ"

In the great commission Christ commanded His disciples to go and preach the gospel to every nation, every creature. This preaching of the gospel is a WORK. This "presenting" and "preaching" you post about so men can "hear" is a work. So can a man be saved WITHOUT this WORK of evangelizing/preaching the word of God? [Rom 10:13ff]

 

[newbirth]

A work is a work is a work. Anything you do to earn something is a work. In other words, You are working for a wage.

A gift can not be earned by ANY work. otherwise it is not a gift, but a wage.

There is no difference. people try to make a difference so they can justify their own works.



Yes, You will give an account of your works, we will even recieve reward (wage) for our works. But you will not be saved by your works. Otherwise salvation is not of grace, it is of works.

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My friend,

You are speaking of how a child of God who is born of his should act.

I am speaking about how one becomes a child of God.

Two different thing, please try to stick to context.

If I may put in my piece. imagine you are being pulled out from a blazing inferno, that is instant salvation but the ride out of the fire is seven miles long, the one who is pulling you out gives you instructions,put on this jacket pour water on yourself every ten minutes and don't let go of the rope, you trust this person so you do whatever he says, that is working out your salvation...trust God and work out your own salvation your actions are the evidence of your faith or lack thereof., and we are saved by grace through faith.
[h=3]Revelation 3[/h]King James Version (KJV)

3 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

[SUP]5 [/SUP]He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

[SUP]6 [/SUP]He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Quite contrary. You are still confused between what Christ did for the world and what is man's response,

Read romans 4. You are the one who is confused.

True, so why are you confused. The Gift of salvation was given to the world, every single human being. The world was saved from death and sin by Christ alone. Man did not contribute a thing to the work of Christ. But our works of faith has nothing to do with what Christ did for us. He saved us from death, so that we could do the works we were created to do.

I do not know where you get your doctrine from , But it surely is not from God. it is like your part universalist, part legalist, which are two opposite spectrums of doctrinal beliefs directly apposed to one another. This must be a newfound doctrine.

God offers the gift of salvation to the world. He paid the price for it. But he is not going to force you to take it. The gift of salvation is still a gift when you receive it, If it is not a gift. God lied.

when one is confused on the difference, I would imagine there is no difference. But scripture makes a very clear distinction.

Not when it comes to salvation it does not.

Paul did not speak of works of the law in Eph, The law was not the context. Nor did he talk about works of the law in Romans 5. Or in titus 3. And many other places. We do not just add the word law to works. We would be mistaking.

Your works are NOT validating what Christ did for us. You will not be raised in the last day because you did some works. You are being raised in the last day because Christ arose from the grave with our nature, giving it life, an eternal existence. I Cor 15:12-22, Rom 5:18. John 6;39, Rev 20:13. Our works justifies our faith. Gives validity to our faith. We are being saved as a person, an individual because of ones own faith, not something Christ did. He made our being able to be reunited with God possible. Our very existance was to work with God in this world. We can choose to do that and remaining faithful is a requirement.

lol.

One who has faith will remain faithful. Faith is no wishy washy, If it is it is not faith.

You have not even mentioned how one becomes a Child of God. You misunderstood scripture thinking that Christ saved you on the Cross to a relationship. We enter into Christ by faith, "justification by faith". We are then being saved through that faith. It is the reason why God saved you and every siingle human being, so that each could freely choose to either serve God, or serve Satan. The choice is yours, once you enter, one must remain in that relationship. If one removes himself, he also removes himself from the inheritance, of being with Christ for an eternity.

You evidently have not read anything I said if you think I have not spoke how one is saved

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Still confused. In the very same post I explained that Christ reconciled the world to God. Christ saved the world from death and sin. This work, because we could not do it, will be accounted to us when we believe. That is what justification means. It means a person, by faith, believing has been put into a correct relationship with God. But unfortunately for your understanding this does not save you. Along with repentance, baptism it places one Into Christ. Once IN Christ your personal salvation begins. Now we are being saved through our faith, not by our faith.

Your more tricky than the catholics claiming all their holy sacriments are works of faith, thus they are not working to earn salvation.

It is still works. now matter how you try to spin it.

Rom 4 says clearly. We are not justified by works, otherwise it is called a wage, Your trying to work. thus you are trying to earn a wage..

God imputes his righteouness to us, at the same time, he does not impute our own sin against ourselves.

That is how he makes us righteous and cleanses us by his blood.

Which is why I John 3;7 now comes into play. As long as we do the works of faith, it will be accounted, righteousness imparted to us. Notice the difference. Impute is external action. Impart means an internal action. See the difference?

Nope.

Impute by grave means unearned, God imputes to me something I do not earn, and takes away from me somethign I have earned.

The the good news Gospel" of Jesus.

there is no good news in your gospel.

You taking one verse out of context does not help your cause, Taking it into context destroys your cause.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. [SUP]8[/SUP]He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

 

[mpaper345]

If we do not have works then our faith is not activated in our life which means we are not saved,and these are works of the Spirit.

The Bible says that Abraham was justified by works and not by faith alone.

The Bible says that we are not saved by works but by Jesus Christ which is a gift of God.

The Bible says faith without works is dead and we are justified by our works.

This is not a contradiction.

When the Bible says we are not saved by works it means doing works to try to get to heaven apart from Jesus Christ like false religions,or doing works that are not of the Spirit to try to get to heaven such as the Old Testament physical ordinances which Jesus took out of the way.

Saved by works means doing works that are works of the Spirit and not works outside of the Spirit which false religions do.

Not saved by works means doing works of the flesh to try t get to heaven and means someone trying to get to heaven apart from Jesus Christ which God said you cannot.

Saved by works means doing works of the Spirit which is commanded of God for us to do.

Not saved by works seems to address people that are still holding unto the Old Testament physical ordinances and Paul is telling them that it is by accepting Jesus Christ and going by the Spirit which the physical ordinances are taken out of the way because they cannot provide spiritual salvation.

Saved by works is addressed to people that are with Christ that they better have works which are works of the Spirit or faith is not activated in them.

 

[notuptome]

You first say men are "dead" and can do nothing until God's spirit first "moves' upon him.

But then you say men must come to Christ. How can men come to Christ if men are spiritually dead and unable to do anything?

THis means God must FIRST "move" upon a man BEFORE he can come to Christ. So how does God decide which men He will "move" upon so they can come to Christ and which men God will NOT "move" upon leaving them unable to come to Christ?

You will not to understand.

I could suggest that you read 1 Corinthians 1 and 2 especially 2:12-16 but there is every likelihood you would just brush it off like you have all the scriptures that contradict the unsound doctrine you espouse.

Ask yourself is the blood of Christ wholly and completely sufficient to save a soul from its sin?

I believe that God is merciful and will honor His word. If any man seeks God he must believe that God is and that God is a rewarder of them that seek Him.

What we say into the scriptures means nothing it is only important what God says out of the scriptures.

John 14

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

If we do not have works then our faith is not activated in our life which means we are not saved,and these are works of the Spirit.

The Bible says that Abraham was justified by works and not by faith alone.

The Bible says that we are not saved by works but by Jesus Christ which is a gift of God.

The Bible says faith without works is dead and we are justified by our works.

This is not a contradiction.

When the Bible says we are not saved by works it means doing works to try to get to heaven apart from Jesus Christ like false religions,or doing works that are not of the Spirit to try to get to heaven such as the Old Testament physical ordinances which Jesus took out of the way.

Saved by works means doing works that are works of the Spirit and not works outside of the Spirit which false religions do.

Not saved by works means doing works of the flesh to try t get to heaven and means someone trying to get to heaven apart from Jesus Christ which God said you cannot.

Saved by works means doing works of the Spirit which is commanded of God for us to do.

Not saved by works seems to address people that are still holding unto the Old Testament physical ordinances and Paul is telling them that it is by accepting Jesus Christ and going by the Spirit which the physical ordinances are taken out of the way because they cannot provide spiritual salvation.

Saved by works is addressed to people that are with Christ that they better have works which are works of the Spirit or faith is not activated in them.

So you do not understand any more than those who say one is lost of they have no works yet fail to give a definitive list of what the minimum works to be saved entails.

There are many evidences of salvation but there are no requirements apart from believing upon Christ. God gives us the illumination we need to believe so even that is not of ourselves. Faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God. Gods Holy Spirit brings conviction of sin, righteousness and judgment through the word of God. All given freely to whosoever will.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Cassian]

Read romans 4. You are the one who is confused.

It speaks about Abraham being justified by faith. Exactly what I have stated. It speaks directly to what I stated. Being justified does not MEAN one is saved. It is just the starting point of being saved.

I do not know where you get your doctrine from , But it surely is not from God. it is like your part universalist, part legalist, which are two opposite spectrums of doctrinal beliefs directly apposed to one another. This must be a newfound doctrine.

I cannot help that you are so far from what scripture teaches. But the Incarnation of Christ and its salvific content has always been part of historic Christianity. In fact, it is one of the hallmarks of Christianity and you don't even understand it.

God offers the gift of salvation to the world. He paid the price for it. But he is not going to force you to take it. The gift of salvation is still a gift when you receive it, If it is not a gift. God lied.

It is a gift given to all men. Maybe you don't actually understand what that gift actually is. Rom 5:14 tells you it is a gift, and Rom 5:18 tells you it is LIFE. I Cor 15:12-22 also states it is life, an eternal existence. Heb 2:14-17 tells you Christ came to defeat death the power of Satan and needed to become like us in every way, meaning Incarnated. You cannot receive it, it is given to all men.
What God does require is that one believe that Christ is the Savior of the world, and by believing you are justified in that faith.

Not when it comes to salvation it does not.

Even if you don't understand it, does not change the fact that there are two distinct justifications that take place. II Cor 5:18-19, Rom 3:23-25 is God reconciling, justifying, making right the world to God.
Then for individual man, if one desires to be united with Christ, one must be reconciled to God by faith.

Paul did not speak of works of the law in Eph, The law was not the context. Nor did he talk about works of the law in Romans 5. Or in titus 3. And many other places. We do not just add the word law to works. We would be mistaking.

I don't recall ever citing that these texts were speaking about works of the law.
However, works of righteousness are such, love your neighbor, love your enemies, do His commandments and you shall live. James is a manual for Christian living. It is full of doing works of faith.

lol.

One who has faith will remain faithful. Faith is no wishy washy, If it is it is not faith.

You should tell that to Adam, to the unfaithful servant, to the five foolish Virgins, to the middle two seeds in the parable of the sower, to the prodigal son, to those many Paul refers to in both letters to Timothy. Many are stated as having lost faith. Why do you think that the NT has over 200 texts that warn against losing faith. And you think faith is static. You are more confused than I first thought.

You evidently have not read anything I said if you think I have not spoke how one is saved

All your statements assumed one was saved. But in each case because of your misunderstanding of scripture, you were not speaking about the part of our salvation dealing with our relationship with Christ. That is a mutual covenantal relationship, it is dynamic, it is ever increasing. If it becomes static or we forsake our first faith, then we are not going to be saved.

 

[Cassian]

Your more tricky than the catholics claiming all their holy sacriments are works of faith, thus they are not working to earn salvation.

It is still works. now matter how you try to spin it.

Never claimed it was not works. All I am saying is that we are not speaking about works of the law. The topic is faith and the works that accompany faith, give validity to ones faith. These are the works of Eph 2:10 that were created for us to do with God.

Rom 4 says clearly. We are not justified by works, otherwise it is called a wage, Your trying to work. thus you are trying to earn a wage..

Never claimed we are justified by works. In fact I made it quite clear that we are justified by faith.

God imputes his righteouness to us, at the same time, he does not impute our own sin against ourselves.

He imputes His righteousness to all men to the world. That is what II Cor 5:18-19, Rom 3:23-25 is saying. But giving life to the world, Christ reconciles the world back to God. All men get this gift of life, Rom 5:18, I Cor 15:22. He did this without imputing sin which is what II Cor 5:18 states. But thus has nothing to do with you as an individual.

That is how he makes us righteous and cleanses us by his blood.

All things were cleansed by His Blood. Col 1:20. He makes you as an individual righteous by faith. That is an external action on the part of God to you when you believe. However, that does not constitute salvation. That simply permits you to enter into Christ by repentance and baptism. Both require the forgiveness of sin. Christ can now forgive your sin because He is our Mediator and High Priest. Sins are not requited unless confessed.

Nope.

Impute by grave means unearned, God imputes to me something I do not earn, and takes away from me somethign I have earned.

which is justification by faith. An external action of God upon you when you believe. Part of that is repentance, and baptism to enter into Christ. Having entered you begin your personal salvation. It is all about the living in faith, following, being obedient, being a servant, being conformed to His Likeness. All of that takes work. NONE of it is done without your participation.

The the good news Gospel" of Jesus.

there is no good news in your gospel.

You taking one verse out of context does not help your cause, Taking it into context destroys your cause.

You have yet to show any evidence that I am incorrect. You have a problem in understanding the Incanation, what Christ did for us, in relation to what man's response is to what Christ did, and then our personal salvation living IN Christ. Seems hardly to be any Gospel, let alone the one of scripture.

[SUP]

4 [/SUP]Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. [SUP]8[/SUP]He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

Are you claiming that you don't sin?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Never claimed it was not works. All I am saying is that we are not speaking about works of the law. The topic is faith and the works that accompany faith, give validity to ones faith. These are the works of Eph 2:10 that were created for us to do with God.

The works done in eph 2: 10 are done AFTER we are saved, and given eternal life.

God does not need me to validate my faith. He knows my heart

The church does not need to validate my faith, they have no ability to do any such thing.

The only person who needs to validate their faith is myself.

If I claim to have faith. But I see no works. then I should question if my faith was real or not. (which was the context behind the Book of James)

 

[billznig]

I think the work we are to do that would adequately qualify anyone for even a second in heaven was entirely fulfilled by Christ alone at the cross! Hebrews 10 says no more sacrifice is necessary! Even to ask what one must do to gain anything at all from God is an affront to the work of the cross and is a refusal to accept what is! there is no method for getting grace, it's a gift from God.

 

[SeaBass]

I think the work we are to do that would adequately qualify anyone for even a second in heaven was entirely fulfilled by Christ alone at the cross! Hebrews 10 says no more sacrifice is necessary! Even to ask what one must do to gain anything at all from God is an affront to the work of the cross and is a refusal to accept what is! there is no method for getting grace, it's a gift from God.

Are you saying when Peter's listeners in Acts 2 and the jailer in Acts 16 asked what they must do, that was an "affront to the work of the cross"?

 

[Cassian]

The works done in eph 2: 10 are done AFTER we are saved, and given eternal life.

There is NO past tense finitely. You possess it, but you do not have a title to it. It is being held for you at the end and you will inherit it IF you are faithful. There is NEVER a past tense in a believers life regarding his faith or salvation.

God does not need me to validate my faith. He knows my heart

But it is the heart that will do the works. No works, means no faith. It is a very simple equation.

The church does not need to validate my faith, they have no ability to do any such thing.

who said anything about a Church? You are correct though, they cannot validate your faith either. ONLY you can validate your faith.

The only person who needs to validate their faith is myself.

Correct.

If I claim to have faith. But I see no works. then I should question if my faith was real or not.

(which was the context behind the Book of James)

that is true, but doctrine or scripture is NOT based on your experience. It was established a very long time ago, 2000 years ago. That Gospel says that if we do not remain faithful, we cannot be saved, we will not inherit the promise at the end. That is precisely why scripture says to test yourself, make sure you are remaining faithful.

 

[Elin]

There is NO past tense finitely.
You possess it, but you do not have a title to it.
It is being held for you at the end and you will inherit it IF you are faithful.

Hogwash!

Our inheritance is guaranteed (Eph 1:14).

Those who are born again do persevere in faith,

because it is God who works in them to will and to do according to his good purpose (Php 2:13),

it is God who carries on to completion the good work he began in them (Php 1:6).

Those who do not persevere in faith were never born again in the first place.

There is NEVER a past tense in a believers life regarding his faith or salvation.

Hogwash!

That is found nowhere in the Bible.

What is found in the Bible is that we have been saved (past tense) by grace through faith (Eph 2:8).

What is found in the Bible is that we have been marked (past tense) in Christ with a seal, the Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance (Eph 1:14).

What is found in the Bible is that we have been given (past tense) to Jesus by the Father, from whose hand and Jesus' hand we cannot be snatched (Jn 10:28-29).

You likewise do not know or understand the Scriptures well enough to represent them correctly.

 

[Cassian]

Hogwash!

Our inheritance is guaranteed (Eph 1:14).

NO, the inheritance is guaranteed. To you specifically depends entirely on you IF you will inherit. I Pet 1:3-5.

Those who are born again do persevere in faith,

Scripture speaks directly against such an idea. Several paarbles point to the contrary- the sower, the foolish Virgins, the unfaithful servant, the talents, then all the exhortations to endure, to make sure one remains faithful. It would be quite a waste of time to exhort believers to remain faithful if it was NOT possible for them to lose faith.

because it is God who works in them to will and to do according to his good purpose (Php 2:13),

but God does not do the work, God does not make the decision. You do, just as much as you make a free choice not to do His will and obey Satan. You are going to give account on your faith, not the work of the Holy Spirit influencing you.

it is God who carries on to completion the good work he began in them (Php 1:6).

I sure hope so, because if I need to worry about His promises failing, then there really is no hope.

Those who do not persevere in faith were never born again in the first place.

which is contradiction and unscriptural.

Hogwash!

That is found nowhere in the Bible.

What is found in the Bible is that we have been saved (past tense) by grace through faith (Eph 2:8).

the context there is the Gift of salvation. Vs 5 states all men were saved. Rom 5:18 also states that all men received life, as does I Cor 15:22. It is the faith of one who believes that Christ saved the world from death and sin, thus is justified by that faith. But a believer is saved through that faith. It is NEVER past tense. We take possession of it but will not inherit the promise until the end IF we endure. In other words, it is up to us to lose it and many do.

What is found in the Bible is that we have been marked (past tense) in Christ with a seal, the Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance (Eph 1:14).

Notice this is God giving you HIS promise. Where is your gurantee, your promise that you will be faithful? You are in a covenatal relationship, not a one sided arrangement. Your eternal destiny is up to you, not God. He is not going to change His promises, but we cannot even make a promise from our side of the relationship.

What is found in the Bible is that we have been given (past tense) to Jesus by the Father, from whose hand and Jesus' hand we cannot be snatched (Jn 10:28-29).

That is very good. But unfortunately we were created free. We can change our minds, we can fall back into sinning and not repent.

You likewise do not know or understand the Scriptures well enough to represent them correctly.

You have not shown any evidence that scripture teaches that one does not need to obey, to follow, to endure, to be conformed to His Image. You are not just swinging in a hammock and God is doing all of this unilaterally.

 

[JaumeJ]

Reading Yeshua's parable of the servants given the talents of silver, we know that one made five more talents out of the five given him, another made two more out of the talents given him, and yet another was given a talent but buried it in the ground.

The servants who added to the talents were rewarded with more, while the one who buried his single talent had his taken away and given to the one who had ten.

Because the last of the servants did nothing with his talent, he was labeled a wicked and slothful servant, and was tossed bound into the outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of the teeth.

When we are given the gift of faith after repenting of our worldly ways, we will either act upon it by serving Yeshua, Jesus, with our heart, soul and mind or not. Those who do not are burying their gift of faith in the ground.

Faith without works is a self-delusion, simple and true.

 

[Elin]

You have not shown any evidence that scripture teaches that one does not need to obey, to follow, to endure, to be conformed to His Image.
You are not just swinging in a hammock and God is doing all of this unilaterally.

Red herring.

Possess = to make the owner of; to own.

The Holy Spirit is a deposit to me, guaranteeing the inheritance to me.

Your contra-NT word contortions serve only to show that you do not know

or understand the NT well enough to represent it correctly.

Your preach a false, twice-condemned gospel.

 

[ivanc0]

if you want to obey the law of Moses for any reason you need to circumcise in the flesh, this is absolutely clear in Paula writings.

You want to work around this saying that circumcision in the heart is a substitute, This was not the intention of Paul words. Is clear that circumcision of the heart means grace, and grace means live without the "law of moses".

To probe my point that the law has no effect for the gentiles, lets study the law of tithing!

Who the gentiles will pay tithing and who the Jew Christians will Pay tithing?

The gentiles will not be able to pay to the Levites!
and the Jew Christians will have to pay to the Levites.
So no one have to pay tithing to the christian church.

Are you able to show your ideas about this.

 

[Cassian]

Reading Yeshua's parable of the servants given the talents of silver, we know that one made five more talents out of the five given him, another made two more out of the talents given him, and yet another was given a talent but buried it in the ground.

The servants who added to the talents were rewarded with more, while the one who buried his single talent had his taken away and given to the one who had ten.

Because the last of the servants did nothing with his talent, he was labeled a wicked and slothful servant, and was tossed bound into the outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of the teeth.

When we are given the gift of faith after repenting of our worldly ways, we will either act upon it by serving Yeshua, Jesus, with our heart, soul and mind or not. Those who do not are burying their gift of faith in the ground.

Faith without works is a self-delusion, simple and true.

And they all said, Amen, Amen, Amen.