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People aren't seeking to outlaw homosexuality either. Just same sex marriage.
It's be ridiculous to try and outlaw adultery or homosexuality. Because even though they are both sins, we can't control other people's actions. We can tell them that their actions are sinful, but that's just about it. Trying to actually force them to stop what they're doing is wrong. It's not our place to force them to stop. That's God's place. But what we as Christian CAN do, is prevent stuff like same sex marriage from being allowed.
The government has basically put the decision of whether gay people should marry or not in our hands. And what decision you make on it is yours. But I know what I'm gonna do. I am gonna say no to letting it happen.
And just because homosexuality was mentioned with the laws in the OT doesn't mean anything. In the OT it says that idolatry, lying, murdering, and stealing are sins. That's the Law of Moses. What argument are we gonna come up with that? That we can lie, steal, murder, and worship anything we want? Umm. I don't think so. It also says in the New Testament that those are sins. Same with homosexuality. It is mentioned in the New Testament that homosexuality is a sin. Right in Romans 1. Romans 1 IS NOT about idolatry. Yes, it mentions idolatry in verse 25, but that's not what it's ALL about. Look at it closely.
Romans 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Though Romans 1 isn't ALL about homosexuality either. It's mainly about the immorality of man. But homosexuality is included because it is considered sin. And immoral.
It's be ridiculous to try and outlaw adultery or homosexuality. Because even though they are both sins, we can't control other people's actions. We can tell them that their actions are sinful, but that's just about it. Trying to actually force them to stop what they're doing is wrong. It's not our place to force them to stop. That's God's place. But what we as Christian CAN do, is prevent stuff like same sex marriage from being allowed.
The government has basically put the decision of whether gay people should marry or not in our hands. And what decision you make on it is yours. But I know what I'm gonna do. I am gonna say no to letting it happen.
And just because homosexuality was mentioned with the laws in the OT doesn't mean anything. In the OT it says that idolatry, lying, murdering, and stealing are sins. That's the Law of Moses. What argument are we gonna come up with that? That we can lie, steal, murder, and worship anything we want? Umm. I don't think so. It also says in the New Testament that those are sins. Same with homosexuality. It is mentioned in the New Testament that homosexuality is a sin. Right in Romans 1. Romans 1 IS NOT about idolatry. Yes, it mentions idolatry in verse 25, but that's not what it's ALL about. Look at it closely.
Romans 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Though Romans 1 isn't ALL about homosexuality either. It's mainly about the immorality of man. But homosexuality is included because it is considered sin. And immoral.
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IS HOMOSEXUALITY A SIN FOR NEW TESTAMENT BELIEVERS
Stand to Reason: Paul, Romans, & Homosexuality
also what Franklee said by the fall of rome is that hey, doesn't matter if you live in the US, God can make any nation fall down just like in the old testament, and imagine if the godlessness was increased, then what will God do then? Goes to show that you shouldn't rely on a country man, just cause its the US doesn't exempt it from judgment, we all gotta go at one point or another.
we gotta stand for WHAT IS RIGHT before Jesus not before people cause peoples traditions are not the best and God is greater than any one person here, do the right thing and follow Christ
Stand to Reason: Paul, Romans, & Homosexuality
also what Franklee said by the fall of rome is that hey, doesn't matter if you live in the US, God can make any nation fall down just like in the old testament, and imagine if the godlessness was increased, then what will God do then? Goes to show that you shouldn't rely on a country man, just cause its the US doesn't exempt it from judgment, we all gotta go at one point or another.
we gotta stand for WHAT IS RIGHT before Jesus not before people cause peoples traditions are not the best and God is greater than any one person here, do the right thing and follow Christ
This is a fallacious question because the question assumes that the man isn't doing anything wrong. Just saying.
You're right.
It's our jobs to reach out to the unsaved and unrighteous. Give them the Gospel. And then we'll go from there. If they don't know then yeah, you shouldn't judge. But if they do know then still don't do it, then there's an issue. (Not saying go out and say "You know, you're unrighteous and you're goin' to heck because of A B and C." Just simply saying evangelize. And then God will do the rest. But if we don't plan the seeds then it's on us that the unrighteous don't know to make righteous decisions.)
It's our jobs to reach out to the unsaved and unrighteous. Give them the Gospel. And then we'll go from there. If they don't know then yeah, you shouldn't judge. But if they do know then still don't do it, then there's an issue. (Not saying go out and say "You know, you're unrighteous and you're goin' to heck because of A B and C." Just simply saying evangelize. And then God will do the rest. But if we don't plan the seeds then it's on us that the unrighteous don't know to make righteous decisions.)
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when God has made a man for a women and a women for a man,why you are not understanding that if a man or women can do sex with each other.
Why he made a couple?
Homosex is big sin and God has destroyed the nation in the Bible you can read.
Two cities in the Bible,they were comitted in this sin.
Please dont find a reason to make your feelings good.Sin is a sin and dont make the Christianity fool in other eyes.
Why he made a couple?
Homosex is big sin and God has destroyed the nation in the Bible you can read.
Two cities in the Bible,they were comitted in this sin.
Please dont find a reason to make your feelings good.Sin is a sin and dont make the Christianity fool in other eyes.
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Very true. This often times hateful, and judging demeanor towards gays also only pushes them further away from the church and the possibility of coming to know the true living God. I have to laugh at the behavior of many "Christians" who visciously picket and protest against gays and/or gay weddings, etc, because to me it shows about their character that it'd be harder for said Christians to truly receive Gods grace and gift of eternal life than the gay people they are casting condemnation upon. Everyone deserves respectful treatment in the same quantity as others, and equal rights as American citizens, well realistically as human beings but our government has given us these rights under written law. Now when it comes to having openly gay, active in this lifestyle persons on the pulpit I think there is much cause for a debate/conversation as we are dealing with our brothers and sisters in Christ and are called to hold each other accountable. when it comes to those who haven't been saved we need to show them Gods love and grace and mercy, the true reason for being a child of our gloriously wonderful Abba Father, because of our love and relationship with Him, not handing out little "servings" of his judgment (which we have no authority to do, only have we to discern and are called to, as mentioned earlier, love above all).
God bless you all
God bless you all
A quick question to all, what do you think of this video?
Child Punished for "Gay Behaviour" - YouTube
Child Punished for "Gay Behaviour" - YouTube
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Got a verse? I don't know of any that allow for divorce from abuse. Unless you were to categorize that under "Abandonment", which seems to be quite a stretch biblically, although I can see how a logical argument could be made.
1) One must abandon their role as X to do Y
2) Person Does Y
3) There for person has done X to pursue Y
4) Divorce!
1) One must abandon their role as X to do Y
2) Person Does Y
3) There for person has done X to pursue Y
4) Divorce!
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I didn't say divorce, I said separation . When abuse gets physical and it's a threaten for the wife, or even the children, I don't see any reason to decide to take some distance from the danger. The husband is not stupid , that separation can even help him seek help for his behavior. Not to mention physical abuse goes against the laws (Romans 13).
. When abuse gets physical and it's a threaten for the wife, or even the children, I don't see any reason to decide to take some distance from the danger. The husband is not stupid , that separation can even help him seek help for his behavior. Not to mention physical abuse goes against the laws (Romans 13).
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A husband should love his wife like Jesus loved His bride, the Church. As Jesus died for His bride, so should a husband be willing die for his wife. A woman only has to be obedient to her husband if he is willing to die for her. So if the man is hitting and in any way shape or form hurting his wife, she is not obligated to stay with him in marriage. Yes God does hate divorce but if the wife is in danger, do you think God, who is love, would want His creation to be subjected to that unhappiness and abuse? Marriage should build up, not bring down.
"Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." Romans 1:27
It leaves no room for interpretation. But then again, if someone really wants to twist the truth, they will probably find a way.
It leaves no room for interpretation. But then again, if someone really wants to twist the truth, they will probably find a way.