Santa Clause
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Our older kids play the Santa Clause game because it is an American tradition and he is based off St Nick who was known for his exuberant giving to others. The younger one will figure it out soon if he hasn't already. We have never lied to them. If they ask if santa is real we ask if they think he is real. They always eventually come to the conclusion that he is not.
Absolutely not.
Yes it is. Any form of dishonesty (lying) is sin. Perverting true worship of God is sin.
So you don't tell your kids "Santa will be here" or sign their presents "from Santa" or anything of that encourages the idea Santa exists?
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My experience with that sort of thing is this. If you approach your kids with an unbending legalistic forbidden fruit sort of mindset you will only break their spirit and confuse them and they will eat just to spite you. Santa is a fun game with the little ones to enjoy with them in their sense of innocent wonderment. It is best to teach them to focus on that which is noble, pure lovely etc. and not beat them down with religiosity straight from the womb.
When my daughter was 6 years old she asked me if there was really a Santa Clause. I asked her "Do you think that there really is an Easter Bunny also?" She thought for a minute and said "No". I don't feel that this Santa thing is a sin but why do it at all. Some kids have very poor parents and they start to wonder why they didn't get any gifts as they were "good" the entire year. Stuff like this creates confusion in the minds of children. It is so much better to talk to your children and teach them biblical principles in relation to their age and how much Jesus loves them.
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I believe deceiving our children encourages them to be deceiving adults. Children tend to mimic those who they respect and carry what they find beneficial into adulthood.
Yep, that's why it's good to discuss it now when the tensions of "what will I do this Christmas without Santa" can be a beneficial question instead of a monotonous unthoughtful decision.
How is lying not a sin? If you didn't place the thought in the head of your child that Santa exists, or encourage the thought, then no you didn't lie. That is contrary to how many people celebrate Christmas though.
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Larry_Stotle
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I don't want to enter the Jehovah's Witness Protection program...
This type of discussion has become a tradition in it's own right.
This type of discussion has become a tradition in it's own right.
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I mean seriously. I don't even remember actually believing in Santa. I remember puttin cookies and milk out and thinking dad was gettin up eaten em all.
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I don't want to enter the Jehovah's Witness Protection program...
This type of discussion has become a tradition in it's own right.
I wouldn't disagree. If this were a Jewish discussion board I doubt the subject would be traditional though because they adhere to what they believe and preach during that season.
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If you wanna hang your hat on Santa clause being evil have at it..and while your at it, make sure you put them so entirely under your thumb with legalism that they are sure to try everything you told them not to as soon as they are able. We are gonna have it agree to disagree. But I will say this....I don't lie to my children.
Exactly. Santa Clause is St. Nicholas. I believe it is a beautiful Christmas tradition and I don't want to get that away from my future children. Also, we will have a Christmas tree, we will listen to Christmas carols, talk about the birth of Jesus Christ, read stories written by H. C. Andersen...and also, switch gifts
.We tell them that Santa Clause brought gifts and put them under a tree (Hmmm, Jer 10:2-5) the tell them that the Easter Bunny lays colored eggs and fills their basket with candy and wonder why they grow up to doubt God?
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The point is that you have bigger things to worry about with your kids than Santa. Where the rubber meets the road is in entering their world and letting them direct traffic from time to time. You do that and you will build trust that lasts a lifetime and they will always tell you everything.
I can agree that we disagree. I don't see how telling children or giving them an inclination that Santa or St. Nicholas exists is not a lie though.
Also, I'm truly not too worried about the legalities of lying. To me it's more of the psychological effect than the legality. We have a lot of corruption and deceit in this world and people keep blindly adding to it.