Sure. Granted means granted, regardless of what was granted.Words matter.
Sure. Granted means granted, regardless of what was granted.Words matter.
Philippians 1:29.
Granted there is used as a verb in the verse and means given.Granted is a conjunction that means "admitted" or "allowed".
Not meaning being made to do something.
Needs some context.
Philippians 1:27-30
Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ. Then, whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, I will know that you stand firm in the one Spirit, striving together as one for the faith of the gospel without being frightened in any way by those who oppose you. This is a sign to them that they will be destroyed, but that you will be saved—and that by God. For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him, since you are going through the same struggle you saw I had, and now hear that I still have.
Having been born being enemies of God, God must grant permission for us to be allowed to be with Him.
That permission was only made possible by the atonement of the Cross.
For the word "granted" is a conjunction that means "admitted" or "allowed".
For it has been *permitted* to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him, since you are going through the same struggle you saw I had, and now hear that I still have.For it has been *allowed* to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him, since you are going through the same struggle you saw I had, and now hear that I still have.
That permission was only made possible by the atonement of the Cross.
It does not say you have been given belief.Granted there is used as a verb in the verse and means given.
I didn't say given belief. I said granted is a verb, not a conjunction, and means given.It does not say you have been given belief.
But, given to believe. Permitted.
So Jesus made you into someone being saved?I didn't say given belief. I said granted is a verb, not a conjunction, and means given.
What's wrong with you?So Jesus made you into someone being saved?
It does not say you have been given belief.
But, given to believe.
Given what?
Make sense of it please?
What's wrong with you?
The Greek word for granted is charizomai which means to show grace, give freely, or grant as a favor. Hence, the source of to believe and to suffer comes from outside the one to whom it is granted.Nothing wrong if you can explain what Philippians 1:29 means.
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him,
but also to suffer for him...
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Isnt it a gift to be unjustly treated cause your doing the right thing in The Anionting. A a privilege to serve the Lord in His anointingPutting faith/faithing in doesn't change the result.
Sorry, why not? The Bible does, as Cameron143 said, in Philippians 1:29, where Christians are told that to them it has been granted not only to believe in Christ, but also to suffer for His sake.Grants us belief?
Ya , please don't say that again. Yikes!
According to the concordance I looked in, it certainly is a verb, not a conjunction, and it does indeed mean to grant, or to give as a favour:Granted is a conjunction that means "admitted" or "allowed".
Not meaning being made to do something.
Needs some context.
Philippians 1:27-30
Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ. Then, whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, I will know that you stand firm in the one Spirit, striving together as one for the faith of the gospel without being frightened in any way by those who oppose you. This is a sign to them that they will be destroyed, but that you will be saved—and that by God. For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him, since you are going through the same struggle you saw I had, and now hear that I still have.
Having been born being enemies of God, God must grant permission for us to be allowed to be with Him.
That permission was only made possible by the atonement of the Cross.
For the word "granted" is a conjunction that means "admitted" or "allowed".
For it has been *permitted* to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him, since you are going through the same struggle you saw I had, and now hear that I still have.For it has been *allowed* to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him, since you are going through the same struggle you saw I had, and now hear that I still have.
That permission was only made possible by the atonement of the Cross.
some people just can not get out of their way. They must think God really thinks they are special becuse of how hard they work.It doesn't change that whatever is spoken of being granted.
God does not merely give us the ability to believe, but Scripture does not teach that God simply places belief into a person while removing their responsibility to respond. Jesus teaches that God draws people to Himself, gives them the truth, and calls them to believe, but He also commands them to make a real response.Sorry, why not? The Bible does, as Cameron143 said, in Philippians 1:29, where Christians are told that to them it has been granted not only to believe in Christ, but also to suffer for His sake.
Amen!God grants repentance, I'm a witness. Anything else is a lie. I was there.
Acts 11
18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
you do not understand, that verse means that the same exact possibility / opportunity for repentance was given to both Jews and gentiles its all over the bible, however it remains a choice because GOD said so. Do not be deceived by false interpretations from many. Here is what GOD SAID HIMSELF, i add many verses below for full context, please read carefully ans attentively.God grants repentance, I'm a witness. Anything else is a lie. I was there.
Acts 11
18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
I didn't mean that God granting belief removes our responsivity to believe. But without God taking the initiative, we won't believe. Thin of Paul on the Damascus road. Until that meeting with the Saviour he was breathing threats and murder against Christ's disciples. Then God stepped in.God does not merely give us the ability to believe, but Scripture does not teach that God simply places belief into a person while removing their responsibility to respond. Jesus teaches that God draws people to Himself, gives them the truth, and calls them to believe, but He also commands them to make a real response.
Jesus said, “Repent, and believe in the gospel.” (Mark 1:15, NKJV). He did not tell people simply to wait until belief was given to them. He commanded them to believe. Jesus also said, “You are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.” (John 5:40, NKJV). This is important because Jesus identifies their unwillingness to come as the problem. They had heard Him, yet they were unwilling to come.
At the same time, Jesus clearly taught that God is active in bringing people to Him: “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” (John 12:32, NKJV). God draws people, but being drawn does not remove the need for a response.
Jesus showed this clearly in the parable of the sower. Some people hear the word, receive it with joy, and believe for a time, but later fall away: “But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, who believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away.” (Luke 8:13, NKJV). They heard, received, believed, and then failed to continue. This shows that biblical belief is connected with how a person responds to what they hear.
Jesus also said, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.” (John 8:31, NKJV), and, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.” (John 14:15, NKJV). Therefore, faith cannot be separated from receiving His words, repentance, obedience, following Him, and remaining faithful.
So the statement “God grants us belief, not just the ability” is too broad if it is meant to say that a person has no responsibility for believing. The teaching of Jesus gives us a fuller picture: God calls us, draws us, teaches us, and gives us the truth, but we must respond. We are commanded to believe, repent, follow Christ, obey His words, and endure to the end.
The biblical picture is therefore not that God believes for us, but that God calls, God draws, God teaches, and we must respond.
paul is not stupid, if he has said no he would have fallen dead where he stood. Christ came to warn him severely not to interfere with his church, the proof is he blinded paul.I didn't mean that God granting belief removes our responsivity to believe. But without God taking the initiative, we won't believe. Thin of Paul on the Damascus road. Until that meeting with the Saviour he was breathing threats and murder against Christ's disciples. Then God stepped in.