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I'm not a scientist and I am not at all anti Science generally. I do reject the concept that there can only be materialistic understanding in order for it to be considered scientific. Surely the question is not, "Is this acceptable from a scientific point of view" but rather, "Is it true?"

Much science is verifiable by experimentation. Some amazing developments have been made. For example, Professor James Tour's team has developed a method to repair severed spinal cords. He has developed a nanotech "drill" that can be used to destroy cancer cells. Jim is a believer.

This is a problem for the science community as Jim is a passionate evangelist as well as a Professor of Organic Chemistry. Since his critics cannot fault his science, they criticise him personally.

Historical science is hard. No one can observe the events that shaped the past. There is conjecture about the speed of light, for example. Has it been constant? No one can be sure. Much cosmology reads more like fantasy imagination than science.

Darwin offered a way to conduct research in historical sciences. He came up with the principle of "Inference to the best explanation." For example, if someone sees a deer painted on a cave wall, it implies that there was a painter. It is highly unlikely that a water stain would produce such a painting. If only one picture was found, there may be some doubt. If many more were found, it would be safe to assume that they were deliberately put there. And since only humans are known to be artists, then the pictures are most likely to be of human origin.

Oddly, when it comes to the theory of evolution, the "Inference to best explanation" principle is ignored. Instead, an assumption is made, that there is no God, therefore only a materialistic explanation is acceptable. And anyone who argues otherwise is dismissed as a non-scientist.

Bill Gates said, " DNA is like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created." Almost every cell in the body has DNA. It is the code of life that determines all our physical characteristics. Now if we follow the inference principle, a program implies a programmer. And if the program is vastly more advanced than anything man has written, then the mind that created the program must also be far more advanced.

Materialistic science cannot handle this obvious explanation. The intellectual gymnastics that some scientists(?) engage is would be laughable if not so pathetic.

Brethren, "The fool has said in his heart that there is no God." Don't get caught up in the false "scientism" of those who reject God as Creator. God has revealed to us how He created the universe and why. It's fine to study and so to marvel at God's creation. But to doubt God's word because deluded materialists reject it is foolish.​
 
I'm not a scientist and I am not at all anti Science generally. I do reject the concept that there can only be materialistic understanding in order for it to be considered scientific. Surely the question is not, "Is this acceptable from a scientific point of view" but rather, "Is it true?"

Much science is verifiable by experimentation. Some amazing developments have been made. For example, Professor James Tour's team has developed a method to repair severed spinal cords. He has developed a nanotech "drill" that can be used to destroy cancer cells. Jim is a believer.

This is a problem for the science community as Jim is a passionate evangelist as well as a Professor of Organic Chemistry. Since his critics cannot fault his science, they criticise him personally.

Historical science is hard. No one can observe the events that shaped the past. There is conjecture about the speed of light, for example. Has it been constant? No one can be sure. Much cosmology reads more like fantasy imagination than science.

Darwin offered a way to conduct research in historical sciences. He came up with the principle of "Inference to the best explanation." For example, if someone sees a deer painted on a cave wall, it implies that there was a painter. It is highly unlikely that a water stain would produce such a painting. If only one picture was found, there may be some doubt. If many more were found, it would be safe to assume that they were deliberately put there. And since only humans are known to be artists, then the pictures are most likely to be of human origin.

Oddly, when it comes to the theory of evolution, the "Inference to best explanation" principle is ignored. Instead, an assumption is made, that there is no God, therefore only a materialistic explanation is acceptable. And anyone who argues otherwise is dismissed as a non-scientist.

Bill Gates said, " DNA is like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created." Almost every cell in the body has DNA. It is the code of life that determines all our physical characteristics. Now if we follow the inference principle, a program implies a programmer. And if the program is vastly more advanced than anything man has written, then the mind that created the program must also be far more advanced.

Materialistic science cannot handle this obvious explanation. The intellectual gymnastics that some scientists(?) engage is would be laughable if not so pathetic.

Brethren, "The fool has said in his heart that there is no God." Don't get caught up in the false "scientism" of those who reject God as Creator. God has revealed to us how He created the universe and why. It's fine to study and so to marvel at God's creation. But to doubt God's word because deluded materialists reject it is foolish.​
The origins of life theory isn`t the only way Science undermines Elohim, think about the Tower of Babel and how they built it to escape the next flood - Elohim`s judgment.
 
I'm not a scientist and I am not at all anti Science generally. I do reject the concept that there can only be materialistic understanding in order for it to be considered scientific. Surely the question is not, "Is this acceptable from a scientific point of view" but rather, "Is it true?"

Much science is verifiable by experimentation. Some amazing developments have been made. For example, Professor James Tour's team has developed a method to repair severed spinal cords. He has developed a nanotech "drill" that can be used to destroy cancer cells. Jim is a believer.

This is a problem for the science community as Jim is a passionate evangelist as well as a Professor of Organic Chemistry. Since his critics cannot fault his science, they criticise him personally.

Historical science is hard. No one can observe the events that shaped the past. There is conjecture about the speed of light, for example. Has it been constant? No one can be sure. Much cosmology reads more like fantasy imagination than science.

Darwin offered a way to conduct research in historical sciences. He came up with the principle of "Inference to the best explanation." For example, if someone sees a deer painted on a cave wall, it implies that there was a painter. It is highly unlikely that a water stain would produce such a painting. If only one picture was found, there may be some doubt. If many more were found, it would be safe to assume that they were deliberately put there. And since only humans are known to be artists, then the pictures are most likely to be of human origin.

Oddly, when it comes to the theory of evolution, the "Inference to best explanation" principle is ignored. Instead, an assumption is made, that there is no God, therefore only a materialistic explanation is acceptable. And anyone who argues otherwise is dismissed as a non-scientist.

Bill Gates said, " DNA is like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created." Almost every cell in the body has DNA. It is the code of life that determines all our physical characteristics. Now if we follow the inference principle, a program implies a programmer. And if the program is vastly more advanced than anything man has written, then the mind that created the program must also be far more advanced.

Materialistic science cannot handle this obvious explanation. The intellectual gymnastics that some scientists(?) engage is would be laughable if not so pathetic.

Brethren, "The fool has said in his heart that there is no God." Don't get caught up in the false "scientism" of those who reject God as Creator. God has revealed to us how He created the universe and why. It's fine to study and so to marvel at God's creation. But to doubt God's word because deluded materialists reject it is foolish.​

I love God and science. Science does not disprove God. The opposite is actually true. I hate gaslighting though and so for many years I hated science and didn't know why. I was forced to watch Bill Nye (who is actually not a scientist btw) every week in public school. I was shown a picture of "the missing link" later discovered to be a hoax (human and monkey bones glued together). I didn't find that out until decades later so I believed what I was told. But everything felt off.

I read the Beak of the finch by Darwin and wrote 10 pages about it for my essay. It did not prove evolution btw, only adaptation. After I took the philosophy of evolution with a class of people who all believed in evolution I discovered there really is no proof of it. None.

Evolution reads like gaslighting bc that's all they have. You'll never find a bunch of information on it so they add it to a caption out of nowhere and typically written as an opinion. It's even hard for the science community to write about it. There's just nothing there.

But real science is awesome. I love it and my kids and even my husband ask me science questions all the time. You can learn so much by nature. Every invention comes from nature. Parables are from nature. Real medicine is from nature. The calendar and time itself is science. It's a lost art bc the school system killed it.
 
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I love God and science. Science does not disprove God. The opposite is actually true. I hate gaslighting though and so for many years I hated science and didn't know why. I was forced to watch Bill Nye (who is actually not a scientist btw) every week in public school. I was shown a picture of "the missing link" later discovered to be a hoax (human and monkey bones glued together). I didn't find that out until decades later so I believed what I was told. But everything felt off.

I read the Beak of the finch by Darwin and wrote 10 pages about it for my essay. It did not prove evolution btw, only adaptation. After I took the philosophy of evolution with a class of people who all believed in evolution I discovered there really is no proof of it. None.

Evolution reads like gaslighting bc that's all they have. You'll never find a bunch of information on it so they add it to a caption out of nowhere and typically written as an opinion. It's even hard for the science community to write about it. There's just nothing there.

But real science is awesome. I love it and my kids and even my husband ask me science questions all the time. You can learn so much by nature. Every invention comes from nature. Parables are from nature. Real medicine is from nature. The calendar and time itself is science. It's a lost art bc the school system killed it.
I agree. I follow Professor Tour and Stephen Meyer. Even evolutionist can't explain how it happens. They are utterly dishonest. They changed "adaptation" to "micro-evolution". Then they falsely claim that micro evolution is the same as macro evolution. Their reasoning is pretty much that there is no God, there is a material world that got here somehow so evolution is the only plausible explanation. And they conclude this using a brain that is supposedly the result of random, undirected pitiless processes that no one understands. Truly the fool has said in his heart, "There is no God".
 
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Hmm...

My name is Isaac, so I have paid attention to Isaac Newton. (Just call me Figgy for short.) :cool: Newton was a devout believer, and also a quite perceptive scientist.

Isaac Newton saw no conflict between faith and science. Everything he discovered about the world just confirmed his belief in God.

Sherlock Holmes said "Circumstantial evidence is a very tricky thing. It may seem to point very straight to one thing, but if you shift your own point of view a little, you may find it pointing in an equally uncompromising manner to something entirely different." For some fields of study all we have is circumstantial evidence, which points to the conclusions we decide it points to.
 
My Father was a scientist who nominally believed in evolution. At one time he was asked to speak in a debate for evolution at his church. As physics and chemistry were his forte, he studied up on evolutionary biology and geology for the debate.
He told me later that he was shocked at how unscientific biologists and geologists were. He said that they came to the data with their evolutionary assumptions instead of coming to the data objectively. They did not use the scientific method in their work at all.
The short of the story is, that he became a young earth creationist and also became a Christian.
 
My Father was a scientist who nominally believed in evolution. At one time he was asked to speak in a debate for evolution at his church. As physics and chemistry were his forte, he studied up on evolutionary biology and geology for the debate.
He told me later that he was shocked at how unscientific biologists and geologists were. He said that they came to the data with their evolutionary assumptions instead of coming to the data objectively. They did not use the scientific method in their work at all.
The short of the story is, that he became a young earth creationist and also became a Christian.
Amen.
The bible is a doctrine destroyer.
At some point it will offend those that start in assumptions, and are clever enough to fool themselves and colleagues.
 
Hmm...

My name is Isaac, so I have paid attention to Isaac Newton. (Just call me Figgy for short.) :cool: Newton was a devout believer, and also a quite perceptive scientist.

Isaac Newton saw no conflict between faith and science. Everything he discovered about the world just confirmed his belief in God.

Sherlock Holmes said "Circumstantial evidence is a very tricky thing. It may seem to point very straight to one thing, but if you shift your own point of view a little, you may find it pointing in an equally uncompromising manner to something entirely different." For some fields of study all we have is circumstantial evidence, which points to the conclusions we decide it points to.
Exactly, and when you look at the fossil record. There's not a single creature in any kind of transition phase.
God inserted into creation his own authenticity.
The atheist will stand before God, claiming there was no Evidence, and God will point to his creation and say, "you're a liar."
 
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Some people like to make hypothesis, and then find things to confirm their hypothesis, even if they resort to make things up or falsifying the evidence, and call it science.

Evolution is just a theory, or an interpretation thats embraced by many in the scientific community. But it's repeated so often that people think it must be true, despite lack of concrete evidence, or observation.

Its not that people evolved from apes to humans. That don't make sense! It's just humans became more popular than apes because we multiplied and were able to migrate to different areas all over the world, while chimpanzee just lived in the jungle. This common ancestor idea is hypothetical.

Regarding the ages of 'hominids' theres a lot of variations amongst humans, theres no reason to assume that fossilised ones that look different to a lot of humans today are not humans with different features, just like dog skeletons will vary in size and shape and skull size.

If anything what we have in common with chimpanzees is that our common 'ancestor' is our creator God who made chimps and apes just as he made humans. The thing chimps have over us its that they have fur so already have a covering while we humans are born naked and need God to clothe us.