SECOND Assassination Attempt on Trump!

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HealthAndHappiness

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Too many conspiracies have come true recently for me to reject anything. My bigger concern is no jail time for a gun crime. Leftists continue to demand more gun laws, but unless and until existing laws are enforced and perpetrators punished, it won't matter at all.
The NRA told me that all of my life.
They think that gun laws on the books trump the constitution. They teach that tougher sentencing is the answer to crime. I disagreed once I thought it through from a Biblical and also from a constitutional pov.

How do existing guns laws ENFORCED stop crime?
 

Nehemiah6

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I figure if someone could even get within 100 yards of trump with a rifle, secret service is doing a pretty crappy job
They are NOT doing any job. They are there to facilitate would-be assassins. Any sane president in office right now would have fired the whole bunch for dereliction of duty. But insane Joe Biden said in response to the second attempt "They need more help"!
 

NightTwister

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The NRA told me that all of my life.
They think that gun laws on the books trump the constitution. They teach that tougher sentencing is the answer to crime. I disagreed once I thought it through from a Biblical and also from a constitutional pov.

How do existing guns laws ENFORCED stop crime?
Punishment (jail time) is a deterrent. There should be mandatory jail time for gun crimes. It won't eliminate the crimes (nothing will), but it will reduce them. What won't reduce them is more laws that aren't prosecuted or given serious consequences (again, jail time).
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Punishment (jail time) is a deterrent. There should be mandatory jail time for gun crimes. It won't eliminate the crimes (nothing will), but it will reduce them. What won't reduce them is more laws that aren't prosecuted or given serious consequences (again, jail time).
America has more prisoners than any other country on earth. Is there something wrong with this picture?
 

Dude653

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God showed you what He did about the natural world that you might understand something of the spiritual world. I just didn't want you to miss it.

For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, yet lose his own soul?
I'm sure you'll find Christian scientists who will attest to the Earth is not flat and that gravity is real. Like Isaac Newton
 

ResidentAlien

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There's a conspiracy going around that it was an inside job to take the heat off of Trump after his poor debate performance and the backlash from his outlandish claim about Haitians in OH. Is that one possible? If not, why not?
 

Nehemiah6

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Trump's Golf Partner Speaks Out After Second Assassination Attempt
“Here he was yesterday on a beautiful day, just trying to get some rest and relaxation like all the rest of us, and there's a man with an...assault rifle who's attempting to kill him. It was terrible. But I got to see... I got to see a man who was stoic, courageous, cared about his friends' safety first before his own life. He was an inspiration to everybody who was around him yesterday. "I wish the whole country could have witnessed what happened yesterday because they would have seen a real leader," he added.
Trump's Golf Partner Speaks Out After Second Assassination Attempt (townhall.com)

Let's hope the whole country throws its support behind Trump. Harris should not be getting a single vote.
 

Bob-Carabbio

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Punishment (jail time) is a deterrent.
If a person is mentally, and emotionally so far gone for whatever reason that they SERIOUSLY CONSIDER shooting people, and take the actions required to do just that, "Legal consequences" aren't even on the radar.

It's really a SPIRITUAL issue primarily (2 Chr 7:14). You can make laws till it comes out your ears, and it will accomplish nothing.

Eliminating guns would work (we'd have to stab people instead), but wouldn't be a practical possibility, since those who'd actually turn them in would be the ones who wouldn't use them illegally anyway..

And so the "Beat goes on".
 

Cameron143

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I'm sure you'll find Christian scientists who will attest to the Earth is not flat and that gravity is real. Like Isaac Newton
The insight wasn't given to them, but you. I hope you make the connection.
 

Cameron143

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There's a conspiracy going around that it was an inside job to take the heat off of Trump after his poor debate performance and the backlash from his outlandish claim about Haitians in OH. Is that one possible? If not, why not?
Surely liberals can come up with better conspiracy theories. I didn't even have to put on my tinfoil hat for this one.
 

Nehemiah6

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There's a conspiracy going around that it was an inside job to take the heat off of Trump...
Why do you make such silly remarks instead of simply accepting the truth? This could never have happened unless it was an inside job. But you would rather believe the lying Democrats and media.

Trump's performance was good given what happened at ABC. Harris set up everything will ABC to ensure that Trump would not receive fair treatment, and there is a whistleblower's Affidavit to confirm this. She even received the questions in advance, yet could not honestly answer the first question put to her. Ans she had a sorority sister as well as her husband's good buddy supporting her.
 

Bob-Carabbio

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There's a conspiracy going around
DUH!!!! there's ALWAYS a "conspiracy" going around. One of the WORST THINGS that we've done to ourselves in the last 20 years or so is: SOCIAL MEDIA.

Fact is that SATAN (the god of this world) is around, and simply continuing to do what he does best - inspiring people to do EVIL.
 

NightTwister

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If a person is mentally, and emotionally so far gone for whatever reason that they SERIOUSLY CONSIDER shooting people, and take the actions required to do just that, "Legal consequences" aren't even on the radar..
Some people are just evil. As Christians, we should know this better than anyone. If they're truly and dangerously mentally ill, then they need to be put in an institution away from society.
It's really a SPIRITUAL issue primarily (2 Chr 7:14). You can make laws till it comes out your ears, and it will accomplish nothing
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. Romans 13:1-5 ESV
Eliminating guns would work (we'd have to stab people instead), but wouldn't be a practical possibility, since those who'd actually turn them in would be the ones who wouldn't use them illegally anyway..
Hence the need for the state to wield the sword.
 

ResidentAlien

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DUH!!!! there's ALWAYS a "conspiracy" going around. One of the WORST THINGS that we've done to ourselves in the last 20 years or so is: SOCIAL MEDIA.

Fact is that SATAN (the god of this world) is around, and simply continuing to do what he does best - inspiring people to do EVIL.
You only quoted the first five words. By doing that you misrepresented the meaning of my post. Did you even read the rest? Do you have an answer for the actual question? Or are you just making noise?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Punishment (jail time) is a deterrent. There should be mandatory jail time for gun crimes. It won't eliminate the crimes (nothing will), but it will reduce them. What won't reduce them is more laws that aren't prosecuted or given serious consequences (again, jail time).
>THIS< is the fruit of NRAs efforts and tens of millions of dollars donated to "Enforce existing gun laws."
Is this what you want?


Why believe the NRA philosophy?
They certainly are not Constitutional.
 

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HealthAndHappiness

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Red Herring.

I never said I do. Why do you say I do?

I wouldn't know, I'm not a member of the NRA.

The NRA and crooked politicians are the political machine that invented that term. The NRA uses as a mantra.
I believe you aren't a member. Just thought I'd let you know that that's who came up with that saying. They used it to lul gun owners into complacency and into forsaking their God given rights that should be protected by the federal constitution and state constitutions.
These are the kind of people that existing gun laws effect.

 

PennEd

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Look at this demonic witch joking and cackling about killing Trump with another demonic witch.