Seven Basic Bible Facts (1)!

[arthurfleminger]

Dispensationalism, God's Truth or a fraudulent way of looking at Scriptures. Here's a good writeup on Dispensationalism:

When a doctrine has been around just long enough and becomes popular, its momentum carries itself onward for many years to come. We can think of some denominational traditions that are found no where in the Bible that have simply been around so long and have become so ingrained within their followers that you simply cannot jar the people out of adherence to them. The tradition's sheer popularity alone keeps it going without any need for biblical basis in many people's minds. In my opinion, this is precisely the case with the doctrine of Dispensationalism.

Complete article: ::: SHOCKING FACTS ABOUT DISPENSATIONALISM ::: (rightlydividingtheword.com)

 

[Polar]

God gave man his pure and holy word, told man to live by his word, but did not preserve his pure and holy word?

Yes, That would include every word that proceeds out of His mouth. yes? Are you somehow convinced that any modern translation is not God's word? I would think that takes the entire thread in another direction. Another poster seems to think you are a KJV onlyist.

That is your prerogative but why has God allowed other more modern translations that actually do show that the KJ is not perfect?

 

[Polar]

Mr Brock seems to be pushing forward a 'Pauline Dispensationalism' view of the Bible, in which Jesus and the Gospels were for Jewish ears and minds only and Paul's Epistles were for the Gentiles. The Pauline Dispensationalism division leads to Christians believing they don't have to listen to the Words of Christ in the Gospels. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Some people actually do seem to believe that Jesus' words are not for them. They make no sense. Who do they believe Jesus actually is?

There are so many schisms in Christianity that you know were never encouraged by the Holy Spirit. Which, makes what is taught unbiblical in many cases.

 

[John146]

Dead wrong. The Holy Spirit would not be given to believers if the Scripture were ‘enough’.

As believers, we already have the Spirit. All we need is scripture.

 

[John146]

Yes, That would include every word that proceeds out of His mouth. yes? Are you somehow convinced that any modern translation is not God's word? I would think that takes the entire thread in another direction. Another poster seems to think you are a KJV onlyist.

That is your prerogative but why has God allowed other more modern translations that actually do show that the KJ is not perfect?

Satan is the great copycat. He has always perverted the words of God even from the beginning.

 

[Polar]

A couple of thoughts from a decent article regarding the role of the Holy Spirit in a believer's life.


The Holy Spirit Is a Source of Revelation, Wisdom, and Power
“These are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except for their own spirit within them? In the same way, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God” (1 Corinthians 2:10-11).
God gives His followers the Holy Spirit so that we may know Him better. Since the Holy Spirit is God’s Spirit, it knows the thoughts of God and reveals those thoughts to believers. The Holy Spirit opens believers’ eyes to the hope of salvation and the inheritance they have in Christ.

The Holy Spirit Gives Spiritual Gifts to Believers
Attributes of the Holy Spirit such as wisdom, knowledge, and power are manifested in the lives of believers for the good of others. More gifts are listed in 1 Corinthians 12:7-11.

 

[Polar]

Satan is the great copycat. He has always perverted the words of God even from the beginning.

You are right that the devil only copies and is not original.

But you are wrong if you believe the KJ is the only translation that God allows and everything else is demonic. Where would you learn or receive such teaching?

 

[DavidTree]

As believers, we already have the Spirit. All we need is scripture.

And the Scripture comes right back at you and says you need more........."It is written"

This is the Eternal Circle of Truth

 

[DavidTree]

Since you brought it up, the very version you are quoting from has flaws.

FYI = the HOLY SPIRIT has no flaws

Testimony time = This week wen to buy a Bible for a old catholic friend who is not yet saved but believes in God. He is currently being drawn by the Lord.
Wanted a large print NKJ for him and purchased it. Later came home to find out it was a NIV.
The Spirit spoke to me (in my spirit) and said this was fine for the person to whom it was going to.

Now you can join in with the Holy Spirit and lift up prayer for him - his name is Ronnie.

 

[John146]

And the Scripture comes right back at you and says you need more........."It is written"

This is the Eternal Circle of Truth

Believers have the Spirit and we need the word. What else do we need to live for the Lord?

 

[Dino246]

As believers, we already have the Spirit. All we need is scripture.

I see you still haven't learned the basics of logic; your post contradicts itself.

 

[Dino246]

Since you brought it up, the very version you are quoting from has flaws.

Kindly leave your KJV-onlyism out of this discussion.

 

[Polar]

FYI = the HOLY SPIRIT has no flaws

Testimony time = This week wen to buy a Bible for a old catholic friend who is not yet saved but believes in God. He is currently being drawn by the Lord.
Wanted a large print NKJ for him and purchased it. Later came home to find out it was a NIV.
The Spirit spoke to me (in my spirit) and said this was fine for the person to whom it was going to.

Now you can join in with the Holy Spirit and lift up prayer for him - his name is Ronnie.

I don't think people today are very familiar with the language of the KJ. It is archaic and hard to understand in more than one place. I use the KJ sometimes but prefer a more modern translation myself.

I pray Ronnie does accept Christ and it's interesting how you thought you had purchased a KJ but it was another translation.

 

[DavidTree]

I don't think people today are very familiar with the language of the KJ. It is archaic and hard to understand in more than one place. I use the KJ sometimes but prefer a more modern translation myself.

I pray Ronnie does accept Christ and it's interesting how you thought you had purchased a KJ but it was another translation.

I was looking for a New Kings James Version which replaces the 'thee' and 'thou' with current English.
So when I noticed it was NIV and was going to return it, i stopped and prayed and was quickly comforted by the Holy Spirit that the NIV version was best for Ronnie.

When i was first saved i only read the KJ and then a few years later went to NKJ which i currently use.

All prayers for Ronnie is joyfully welcomed and accepted - Thank You

 

[Polar]

I was looking for a New Kings James Version which replaces the 'thee' and 'thou' with current English.
So when I noticed it was NIV and was going to return it, i stopped and prayed and was quickly comforted by the Holy Spirit that the NIV version was best for Ronnie.

When i was first saved i only read the KJ and then a few years later went to NKJ which i currently use.

All prayers for Ronnie is joyfully welcomed and accepted - Thank You

Well that makes more sense. Otherwise, a person might start speaking in thys and thous

 

[Rosemaryx]

I was looking for a New Kings James Version which replaces the 'thee' and 'thou' with current English.
So when I noticed it was NIV and was going to return it, i stopped and prayed and was quickly comforted by the Holy Spirit that the NIV version was best for Ronnie.

When i was first saved i only read the KJ and then a few years later went to NKJ which i currently use.

All prayers for Ronnie is joyfully welcomed and accepted - Thank You

Prayed for your friend Ronnie...
I love to hear that the Lord is calling , and He is using you to direct the steps to help him......

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Precious friends, continued from:
Seven Basic Bible Facts (1)
Seven Basic Bible Facts (2)
Seven Basic Bible Facts (3)!:

FACT NO. 4—That the Bible definitely teaches that water baptism was and is
a part of Israel’s religion (Heb. 6:1-2; 9:10). It was for the remission of sins
and was by sprinkling (Mark 1:4; Acts 2:38; Ezek. 36:25).

In this age there is only ONE Baptism, not two:

“One Lord, one faith, ONE BAPTISM” (Eph. 4:5).​

This Baptism is the placing of the Christian into the Church, the Body of Christ,
By the Holy Spirit:

“For By One SPIRIT are we all BAPTIZED INTO ONE BODY,​

whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free;​

and have been all made to drink into One Spirit” (I Cor. 12:13).​

This Baptism takes place once for all at the time of salvation. The Apostle
Paul was not sent to baptize with water:

“For Christ sent me NOT TO BAPTIZE but to preach The Gospel...”​

(I Cor. 1:17).​

​

Only a change in God’s purpose would necessitate a statement like this.
There is no importance attached to water baptism, today. It is not a part
of Christianity and only causes confusion.

(RC Brock Seven Basic Bible Facts!)

to be continued...​

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Precious friends, continued from:
Seven Basic Bible Facts (1)
Seven Basic Bible Facts (2)
Seven Basic Bible Facts (3)
Seven Basic Bible Facts (4)!:

FACT NO. 5—That we must understand the two-fold ministry of our
Lord Jesus Christ.

During His earthly ministry He ministered exclusively to Israel:

“But He answered and said, I am not sent but unto​

the lost sheep of the HOUSE OF ISRAEL” (Matt. 15:24).​

His whole ministry to the Nation was under the Law of Moses
(Matt. 5:17; Gal. 4:4-5). Christians are not under the Law so we
are not to live according to Israel’s teachings. During His present
ministry in Heaven, He is ministering according to what He
Revealed to the Apostle Paul.

He is saving men according to His gospel of Grace. He is at The Throne
Of Grace Making Intercession for us (Rom. 8:34). We are to live in Paul’s
epistles where pure Christianity is found. This is not to say we should
neglect the rest of the Bible. It is ALL for us but not all TO us
(I Cor. 10:6, 11).

(RC Brock Seven Basic Bible Facts!)

to be continued...

 

[SomeDisciple]

FYI = the HOLY SPIRIT has no flaws

Testimony time = This week wen to buy a Bible for a old catholic friend who is not yet saved but believes in God. He is currently being drawn by the Lord.
Wanted a large print NKJ for him and purchased it. Later came home to find out it was a NIV.
The Spirit spoke to me (in my spirit) and said this was fine for the person to whom it was going to.

Now you can join in with the Holy Spirit and lift up prayer for him - his name is Ronnie.

It's remarkable what God can do, even through the haze of translation.

About 20 years ago a guy rebuked me for fornicating with a co-worker and bought me an NKJV -and said the same thing about it being "good enough" (idk what he would have preferred)- He ended up getting fired from the place we worked IIRC he said something that offended some homosexual co-workers. Getting "canceled" wasnt as common back then. I never saw him again, but I still have the bible. It's held together by duct tape now, though.

 

[DavidTree]

It's remarkable what God can do, even through the haze of translation.

About 20 years ago a guy rebuked me for fornicating with a co-worker and bought me an NKJV -and said the same thing about it being "good enough" (idk what he would have preferred)- He ended up getting fired from the place we worked IIRC he said something that offended some homosexual co-workers. Getting "canceled" wasnt as common back then. I never saw him again, but I still have the bible. It's held together by duct tape now, though.

Awesome

AGREE - God is like, light years ahead of the satans attacks on His word.

Dwell on this - Every lie that has, and will continue, from the mouth of satan has already been exposed by the LIGHT of the TRUTH in the WORD.

The Scripture is completely reliable for us who have the Holy Spirit.

Not so for religion = "You search the scriptures but they speak of ME" , says the LORD.