Got people over in this thread saying christians can be gay and still be saved. It's nuts!
https://christianchat.com/threads/future-sins.225166
https://christianchat.com/threads/future-sins.225166
Shall we sin that grace may abound?
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As it is written..."What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" (Rom 6:1-2)
It seems many are unaware of how to be dead to sin.
Have you asked that those who are Christians can be gay believe that those who are actually having sexual relationship?
I know Christian believers who say they are gay( attraction to same sex) but do not have a sexual relationship.
Maybe clarify Christians can be gay meaning for you
All the more reason to point people to God's Word. His Word should be the deciding factor.
Nobody said you are required to follow any man as though they are your Lord and Savior regardless of whether they are on the internet or the pastor of your local church.
No argument on that at all seeing the new testament does not instruct Christians to observe Saturday sabbath and it does not say not doing so is a sin and those not doing so will go to hell.
All that's left on that topic is to warn others to stay clear of the sabbatraians who are trying to get Christians to be under portions of the law of Moses which is they do then they would fall from grace like the Galatians did as we see in the Book of Galatians
As noted in the scripture reference you have provided - we are going to have to judge doctrine to make sure no man is putting a tumbling block in front of other Christians as the fake grace people are doing.
1 Corinthians 5:11-13
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Jesus tells us to judge righteously
John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
The only way to judge righteously is to compare what people do and say to what God's Word teaches.
He also warns that we will be judged with the judgement that we judge with (reap what we sow - Gal 6:7,8)
Matthew 7:2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
So, if someone is believing or doing something that is obviously in opposition to what God's Word teaches... it's not "judging" them to point out what they believe or do is in opposition to what God's Word teaches
By the same token, we should apply God's Word to ourselves and we should actually judge ourselves
1 Corinthians 11:31
For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
The purpose of this is to submit ourselves to the Lord so that He does not have to judge us as spoken of in 1 Corinthians 11:32.... the Lord would much rather have us come to Him in submission and ask / believe for His leading / teaching so we can keep ourselves on the path that leads to life and not get off on the path that leads to death (separation from God)
Jesus and the Apostles all has cone contentious discussions so it's not out of the ordinary for this to happen when people don't agree with one another.
Jesus said that if a man looks at a woman to lust after her, he has already committed adultery with her in his heart (Matthew 5:28). This lets us know that lustful thoughts are considered sinful, not just the physical act of adultery.
So for someone to still have sexual lust for anybody, it is a sin unless it's a marriage between one man and one woman as the Lord teaches is right in His eyes in His Word.
So the so called gay christians still lusting sexually won't be allowed to enter in to God's Kingdom just like the old pervert men who sit around watching and lusting after women watching porn. It's still grievous sin before the Lord.