Shall we sin that grace may abound?

[Freed18]

So you have not committed willful sin since you became a Christian.

That is right, and all thanks and glory be to God.

How about sins committed in ignorance?

There is no such thing in the NT.
James writes..."But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." (James 1:14-15)
The requirement of temptations, lusts, and enticements, for anything to be a sin, rule out ignorance.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

That is right, and all thanks and glory be to God.

There is no such thing in the NT.
James writes..."But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." (James 1:14-15)
The requirement of temptations, lusts, and enticements, for anything to be a sin, rule out ignorance.

1 John 2:1–2 "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and he is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world."

 

[Freed18]

1 John 2:1–2 "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and he is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world."

The "we" are those who have already used the Advocate.
"We" walk in the light, which is God, in whom is no darkness-sin.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

The "we" are those who have already used the Advocate.
"We" walk in the light, which is God, in whom is no darkness-sin.

I'm trying to understand what you mean. Jesus is our righteousness and that's what you mean that you say you have no sin anymore after becoming a Christian. Is that what you mean?

Or do you mean that you have committed no sins at all since the time you became a Christian? And obey and obeyed God 100%?

 

[Freed18]

I'm trying to understand what you mean. Jesus is our righteousness and that's what you mean that you say you have no sin anymore after becoming a Christian. Is that what you mean?

Both, actually.
Jesus is our righteousness, as there is no sin in Christ.
If we are in Him, we can't have any sin on us either.

Or do you mean that you have committed no sins at all since the time you became a Christian? And obey and obeyed God 100%?

I obey God 100% of the time, because I am in Christ.
In Him, I have His power, His mind, and His fellowship with God.
I have His protections, and His Spirit.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Both, actually.
Jesus is our righteousness, as there is no sin in Christ.
If we are in Him, we can't have any sin on us either.

I obey God 100% of the time, because I am in Christ.
In Him, I have His power, His mind, and His fellowship with God.
I have His protections, and His Spirit.

Okay. What is your stance? Are you OSAS/Calvinist or Free Will? Pre-trib or Post-trib?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

This is a little bit off topic, but thought that this short preaching clip might be appreciated by one or two.

Surviving the tribulation

 

[Freed18]

Okay. What is your stance? Are you OSAS/Calvinist or Free Will? Pre-trib or Post-trib?

Not OSAS or Calvinist.
All have free will, so I see no variations on that topic.
I believe that the tribulation times will precede the return of Jesus with His angels.

In Christ, there is no sin.
All who have truly repented of sin and been baptized into Christ, have put on Christ. (Gal 3:27)
There can be no sin in Him, ergo, those in Him are also sinless.

 

[wattie]

From R.C.Sproul

'In order for us to be persuaded that we have achieved perfection in any kind, we have to have an exaggerated view of our own performance. So, we bring God’s law down and bring our own performance up so that the two can meet. Either one of those is an extreme danger for Christian growth, and both of them together is basically fatal. So, I caution you against that. '

 

[Freed18]

From R.C.Sproul

'In order for us to be persuaded that we have achieved perfection in any kind, we have to have an exaggerated view of our own performance. So, we bring God’s law down and bring our own performance up so that the two can meet. Either one of those is an extreme danger for Christian growth, and both of them together is basically fatal. So, I caution you against that. '

I wonder why anyone would equate obedience to God with something bad.
Could it be, that they don't want to be obedient ?

 

[wattie]

I wonder why anyone would equate obedience to God with something bad.
Could it be, that they don't want to be obedient ?

You're talking about R.C.Sproul, a very famous reformed pastor who preached to a large congregation who would have been accountable to more than one person.

 

[Freed18]

You're talking about R.C.Sproul, a very famous reformed pastor who preached to a large congregation who would have been accountable to more than one person.

He will eventually only be accountable to one Person.

 

[Aussie52]

Christianity is not a 'sinning religion'! Through Christ's atonement and the presence of the Holy Spirit, there is victory over sinning. This fact is so plainly seen in the New Testament, my mind boggles that people don't see it. Do we bring the Word of God down to the level our experience or elevate our experience to the level of the Word of God?

 

[Tchawk]

Okay. What is your stance? Are you OSAS/Calvinist or Free Will? Pre-trib or Post-trib?

We have forgiveness of sins and can asks daily for forgiveness. If you ask for forgiveness daily you are Christian. We are human we sin we all sin. We are righteous because we believe. Choosing right Rom 7: ...

 

[Tchawk]

We have forgiveness of sins and can asks daily for forgiveness. If you ask for forgiveness daily you are Christian. We are human we sin we all sin. We are righteous because we believe. Choosing right Rom 7: ...

sanctification is a process. Not instant 2 cor 3:18 phil. 1:6 mark 4:24-29

 

[Tchawk]

We have forgiveness of sins and can asks daily for forgiveness. If you ask for forgiveness daily you are Christian. We are human we sin we all sin. We are righteous because we believe. Choosing right Rom 7: ...

I can answer, but what I'll say is it really doesn't matter as long as I believe Jesus died rose again and is sitting on the right hand of GOD and GOD sent his HOLY SPIRIT to live in us. When I get to heaven or heaven comes I will have eternity to ask questions.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

He isnt saying that. He is saying if we fail, Jesus's commitment to us remains. That's not someone who never follows Jesus.

He’s probably mis interpreting this verse I’d say “if we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.”
which one verse interpretations often mis the mark badly

“if we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

if we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

But really it says just before that if we deny him he will deny us . Jesus said this also.

“but he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭12:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

so I’m not sure this verse should be proof of osas at all.

If we want to know they explain it in places like this but not in just a verse we should always read chapters and pages

“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭10:26-27

again this isnt saying “your saved no matter what “ it’s seems more like a dire and frightening warning that we need to repent while we can. But we never take those things in much these days … it’s not hip

 

[Tchawk]

He isnt saying that. He is saying if we fail, Jesus's commitment to us remains. That's not someone who never follows Jesus.

What is a reprobate ?

 

[Tchawk]

What is a reprobate ?

How many time is too many time to blaspheme our HOLY SPIRIT. Because it says repeatedly .mark 3:28-29 and Matt 12:31-32

 

[Aussie52]

sanctification is a process. Not instant 2 cor 3:18 phil. 1:6 mark 4:24-29

Sanctification is a crisis with a view to a process. The aorist tense in 1 Thes 5:23 ie.'may the God of peace sanctify you entirely' is an instantaneous, crisis experience. This is a cleansing from inbred sin with a view to growing in Christlikeness.