Shall we sin that grace may abound?

[wattie]

God heareth not sinners. (John 9:31)
The prayers and requests of the unrepentant are unheard by God.
We are righteous because the old man was destroyed and a new creature, reborn of God, took its place. (among other things)

Wait..God heareth not sinners was said by a lost man to Pharisees..you can't take his word for it.

 

[Freed18]

Saying that we are not perfect like you is simply an honest appraisal of ourselves.

The gifts of repentance from sin is still available for you.

Now go sell whatever you have, give to the poor and take up your cross and follow Jesus.
You will have riches in heaven.

Thanks, but those days occurred in the now distant past.

 

[Freed18]

Wait..God heareth not sinners was said by a lost man to Pharisees..you can't take his word for it.

Lost ?
He had the faith to be healed, didn't he ?
How was he lost ?
Besides, we have David's take on it too..."The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity." (Ps 5:5)
Thanks to the gift of repentance from sin, we can all be ex-sinners !

 

[NightTwister]

They can't.
If their actions show that they are still bringing forth the fruit of the devil, they cannot be confused with those actually reborn of God's seed, and bringforth His fruit.

So you claim to be without sin, but have no guarantee that you will make it to the end without sinning. You claim you are sinless because the Spirit of Christ is within you, but if you stumble and sin it means that the Spirit of Christ was never in you.

Your entire existence is a contradiction. What a miserable way to live.

 

[wattie]

Lost ?
He had the faith to be healed, didn't he ?
How was he lost ?
Besides, we have David's take on it too..."The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity." (Ps 5:5)
Thanks to the gift of repentance from sin, we can all be ex-sinners !

He hadn't believed in Jesus yet at the time of saying God heareth not sinners

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

How

How does someone become "unborn again?"

Why do Calvinists and OSAS believers ask this silly question? Do you guys think you're being clever and that this question can't be answered?

No one can be unborn again - but there are such things as still births and babies dying in the real world.

So also in Christianity - a Christian can fall away and their soul die from willfully departing from God who is the source of their life.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Not OSAS or Calvinist.
All have free will, so I see no variations on that topic.
I believe that the tribulation times will precede the return of Jesus with His angels.

In Christ, there is no sin.
All who have truly repented of sin and been baptized into Christ, have put on Christ. (Gal 3:27)
There can be no sin in Him, ergo, those in Him are also sinless.

"If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that." 1 John 5:16 (ESV)

This verse shows that, yes, Christians still occasionally sin all though not often because they've submitted to the Holy Spirit who steers them in the direction of God's ways in obedience and resistance to sin.

If you really are sinless, you would believe everything the Bible says including this verse and others like it. To not believe it means you don't accept this verse whom the Holy Spirit has inspired John to write.

If God acknowledges that true Christians still sin occasionally, you should too if you are really in Him.

 

[Tchawk]

They can't.
If their actions show that they are still bringing forth the fruit of the devil, they cannot be confused with those actually reborn of God's seed, and bringforth His fruit.

Read 2 Tim2:12 if we have his fruits he cannot deny himself. Also read 1 Cor: 11- having the mind of CHRIST GOD Spirit knows his spirit in us.