shewed unto Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time

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pittsburghjoe

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Luke 4:5
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

Wait, what? Can Satan play around with time? Physical History?

Could anything that sounds borrowed in the Bible be from Satan knowing it would happen and tried to discredit it?
 
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5 Then the devil led Him up to a high place and showed Him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world.
6 “I will give You authority over all these kingdoms and all their glory,” he said. “For it has been relinquished to me, and I can give it to anyone I wish.

The Being, who ultimately became Satan, was the WORD's most perfect created being in every way. He was given power from his moment of inception. But ultimately, according to [Gospel] verses same as Luke 5, we see 2 Laws. The First Law being Christ, the WORD, the Creator of Satan. We see a Second Law, subordinated to the [First Law] in his statement in verse 6 (For it has been relinquished to me) = he wouldn't own it without First Law giving it to him. But ultimately, we see Both the First Law [Creator], the Second Law [creation of Creator] having POWER over the Law's of Physics. Fascinating!
 
pittsburghjoe

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So certain types of time could be another thing Satan has authority of here on Earth? Do you see what this does to validate the Bible?
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
So certain types of time could be another thing Satan has authority of here on Earth? Do you see what this does to validate the Bible?
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That's twisting the meaning of the verse by signalling out 1 event that includes God and the Enemy of God. God, the WORD made flesh, had to be tempted in the [same] ways you and i are. We can sell our souls to have great wealth that equals to Ancient Kingdoms. This moment in Luke is allowed by God, not controlled by Satan, but given permission to tempt God. Satan [did not] know it was God, but Satan knew it was from God and it troubled him every moment Yeshua walked the Earth.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
Luke 4:5
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

Wait, what? Can Satan play around with time? Physical History?

Could anything that sounds borrowed in the Bible be from Satan knowing it would happen and tried to discredit it?
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It looks to me as though you read this verse and injected a boatload of your own ideas. Nothing in the verse suggests that the devil has any power over time. Nothing suggests that the devil showed Jesus all the kingdoms that had ever existed or ever would.

As for your last sentence, it is so convoluted as to be meaningless.
 
pittsburghjoe

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Make sure you don't consider it for one second. You guys love to attack ammo against unbelievers ..so weird.
 
pittsburghjoe

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My purpose to the wake the sleeping. You guys are already awake ..I just want constructive feedback before I launch it on the atheists.
 
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I just want constructive feedback before I launch it on the atheists.
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They will eat you alive :giggle:

You do not like our feedback? LOL! Wait until you get theirs! :alien::devilish::geek:

Your constant contradictions and misapplication of words will be grist for their grind.

And besides, as atheists, they largely reject the notion of spiritual beings, including Satan.
 
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It's a battle I am prepared for. I'm already on the forefront. These are just new ideas of mine I'm thinking of adding.
I'm well aware of how miserable they are.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
My purpose to the wake the sleeping. You guys are already awake ..I just want constructive feedback before I launch it on the atheists.
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I got a question for you.........your Profile Page says you were "born" a Christian. How exactly did you pull that off?
I gotta ask because Jesus CLEARLY TAUGHT THAT YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN to become a Christian........

Mayhaps you should work that out before you take on the task of arguing with atheists?
 
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I got a question for you.........your Profile Page says you were "born" a Christian. How exactly did you pull that off?
I gotta ask because Jesus CLEARLY TAUGHT THAT YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN to become a Christian........

Mayhaps you should work that out before you take on the task of arguing with atheists?
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This is happening quite a bit now, people stating born when born again. Same person or what?
 
pittsburghjoe

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p_rehbein said:
I got a question for you.........your Profile Page says you were "born" a Christian. How exactly did you pull that off?
I gotta ask because Jesus CLEARLY TAUGHT THAT YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN to become a Christian........

Mayhaps you should work that out before you take on the task of arguing with atheists?
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Sorry p_rehbein, I'm having a hard time typing from my eyes rolling so hard.
 
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So, you believe the information gathered from your series of threads will allow you to explain the identity of God through not just Quantum Mechanics, but through specifics like sin particle and the relationship between waves and collapsed waves indicating coherent/decoherent energy flow.

And you believe by presenting these ideas to Atheist, whom I assume you believe look at life from Quantum Mechanics, and will be able to prove the existence of God.

OK!

Let's say one bites and is interested and wants to accept God?

Are we finally using BIBLICAL METHODS here?
 
pittsburghjoe

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Are you hinting that I am against the Bible? The first step with Atheists to get them to see there is a God. Any God is a step from where they were. Step 2 is actual Christianity, so yes.
 
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It was a lie. Whenever Satan speaks in the Bible he is lying. Satan always lies because he is the first liar that's how he got the name Devil.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
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I would take it to mean that in one moment Jesus was shown all the kingdoms of the world, not shown all the kingdoms of the world throughout time.

I was an atheist and no amount of preaching would have converted me. It took enlightenment in the form of Jesus to awake me.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
Are you hinting that I am against the Bible? The first step with Atheists to get them to see
there is a God. Any God is a step from where they were. Step 2 is actual Christianity, so yes.
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Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
 
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