Sin daily?

[ScooterJackson]

Like motocross action magazine?

I don't think too many agree with riding motorcycles on the dirt like they do in motocross.

They'd think it's putting one's self in un necessary danger which is getting close to tempting the Lord which is a position I'd agree with

 

[Burn1986]

I don't think too many agree with riding motorcycles on the dirt like they do in motocross.

They'd think it's putting one's self in un necessary danger which is getting close to tempting the Lord which is a position I'd agree with

Oh, I think I misread your post. Because you’d mentioned 2-strokes vs 4-strokes right? Maybe that was a different forum.

 

[ScooterJackson]

you’d mentioned 2-strokes vs 4-strokes right?

Yeah I don't recall mentioning anything about 2-strokes vs 4-strokes

You must be thinkin of the motorsickle forum where they talk about how much fun putting one's self in un necessary danger is

 

[Freed18]

Well you don't know anything about the lives of others, and you have sinned after having gotten born again so what was your problem?

Correct, about me knowing anything about the lives of others.
But unless you have some sin in mind that I have committed, you should really retract that accusation.

That's false. You just committed sin making this false claim.
You should become more knowledgeable concerning God's Word

If a man turns from something, he is no longer headed that way.
If I repent of driving West, I no longer drive West.
If a man turns from sin, he is a non-sinner.
More sin, invalidates any earlier 'turn'.

1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

Amen to that.

That's exactly what you should do.

Thanks for the exhortation.

Ah and there's the rub. There's a big difference between never sinning again and the claim that we are no longer held accountable by the Lord for the sins committed after having been born again.

I agree.
I rejoice in God's ways and means of never sinning again.
Mankind will always be held accountable for their actions.
There are several false doctrines that I can think of, whereby one commits sin and takes no responsibility for them.
But they are indeed false doctrines...accommodators of sin.

All of your future sins are not automatically forgiven.

I agree, and never said they were.

The wages of sin is still death and you deny scripture only accepting a few passages here and there.

The wages of sin is death, but not the second death.
Paul writes..."Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after." (1 Tim 5:24)
I was paid the wages for my sins at my crucifixion with Christ.
The old me died, was buried, and was raised with Christ to wlak in newness of life. (Rom 6:3-6)

If it were not possible for a Christian to sin, the Lord would not have put all the warnings in the New Testament telling us what happens to those that continue in sin.

Yet, here you are, defending sin !
I have to ask, why you have had such a personality change over the last few days ?

Here's an example from God's Word you cannot deny although I'm sure you'll try:
James 5:19,20
Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

This was written to Christians and is saying is any of you Christians do err from the truth, they need to be converted back to the Lord because they have fallen away from the Lord and are once more spiritually dead which is being separated from Him. They need to be restored if they are to go to Heaven. They'll need to confess and forsake their sin in order to be in right standing with the Lord once again.

Amen to that, but I fail to see what exactly your intent is.
It seems clear to me, that the offender is unconverted.
If someone can actually convert him, his sins will be hid...by baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of past sins. (Acts 2:38, 22:16)

So you think if a person is not free from sin then that's God's fault for not seeing to it they are free?

Not at all.
It is the sinners fault, for breaking his repentance from sin.

The Lord is able to keep us free from sin only if we continue to submit ourselves to Him.

Correct.

He gave man free will.

Correct.

The devil has deceived many in to believing the lie that man does not have free will and man does not reap what he sows which is tricking people in to mocking God all while claiming to be Christians.

I thank God for having the will to remain obedient to Him.
And for the ability to make it so.

And yet, you're going to sin a few more times before you die.

Not if my repentance from sin is true.

You reject the whole counsel of God which warns Christians to not sin meaning Christians could sin
It's laughable that you claim to never have committed one sin after getting born again. Comedy time!

Calling oneself a Christian doesn't make one a Christian.
Exhortations and admonissions, from God, not to turn from repentance, are common in the writings.
But some heed the warnings, and remain faithful.

Yes and those claiming it's not possible to sin after getting born again and that they have never fallen short of God's absolute perfection after having been born again are liars - which is sinful behavior.

I will stick with John 3:8-10 on that point..."He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother."
Being reborn of God's seed makes it impossible to bring forth Adam's fruit !

Then your teaching...it is NOT of God because you have fallen short of God's absolute perfection after having been born again.

Unless you have some sin in mind, that I have committed, I request that you recant your acccusation.

 

[Freed18]

Well you don't know anything about the lives of others, and you have sinned after having gotten born again so what was your problem?

Correct, about me knowing anything about the lives of others.
But unless you have some sin in mind that I have committed, you should really retract that accusation.

That's false. You just committed sin making this false claim.
You should become more knowledgeable concerning God's Word

1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron




That's exactly what you should do.



Ah and there's the rub. There's a big difference between never sinning again and the claim that we are no longer held accountable by the Lord for the sins committed after having been born again. All of your future sins are not automatically forgiven.

The wages of sin is still death and you deny scripture only accepting a few passages here and there. If it were not possible for a Christian to sin, the Lord would not have put all the warnings in the New Testament telling us what happens to those that continue in sin. Here's an example from God's Word you cannot deny although I'm sure you'll try:

James 5:19,20
Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

This was written to Christians and is saying is any of you Christians do err from the truth, they need to be converted back to the Lord because they have fallen away from the Lord and are once more spiritually dead which is being separated from Him. They need to be restored if they are to go to Heaven. They'll need to confess and forsake their sin in order to be in right standing with the Lord once again.



So you think if a person is not free from sin then that's God's fault for not seeing to it they are free?
Sounds like reformed trickery nonsense. It's certainly not scripture.

The Lord is able to keep us free from sin only if we continue to submit ourselves to Him. He gave man free will.
The devil has deceived many in to believing the lie that man does not have free will and man does not reap what he sows which is tricking people in to mocking God all while claiming to be Christians.



And yet, you're going to sin a few more times before you die.



You reject the whole counsel of God which warns Christians to not sin meaning Christians could sin
It's laughable that you claim to never have committed one sin after getting born again. Comedy time!



Yes and those claiming it's not possible to sin after getting born again and that they have never fallen short of God's absolute perfection after having been born again are liars - which is sinful behavior.



Then your teaching...it is NOT of God because you have fallen short of God's absolute perfection after having been born again.

 

[ScooterJackson]

But unless you have some sin in mind that I have committed, you should really retract that accusation.

Lying is a sin.

If a man turns from sin, he is a non-sinner.
More sin, invalidates any earlier 'turn'.

Which is why 1 John 1:9 is in God's Word.

The wages of sin is death, but not the second death.

I see so God can be mocked and if we sow to the flesh we do not reap corruption that the Lord spoke of in Gal 6?

That's exactly the message the devil had for Adam and Eve is they could sin against the Lord and they would not die spiritually.

Both him and you are in error according to what God says in His Word, but of course that's besides the point right?

I was paid the wages for my sins at my crucifixion with Christ.

Romans 3:25 - Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God

When a person gets born again, only their past sins are forgiven and wiped away. All sins they commit (including lying) after having been born again must be confessed and forsaken in order for them to be cleansed of those sins.

Confessing and forsaking new sins committed (including lying) after being saved would be sowing to the Spirit as to be reaping life according to what the Lord teaches in His Word in Gal 6

Yet, here you are, defending sin !

That's what the gaslighting demons keep claiming, but they are in error and are to be cast out and ignored

Amen to that, but I fail to see what exactly your intent is.

Those that don't accept all the Lord says in His Word wouldn't know

I thank God for having the will to remain obedient to Him.
And for the ability to make it so.

So will worship must be your thing then.
Odd how you left the Lord out which is very telling

But some heed the warnings, and remain faithful.

Which is what you should be doing

Being reborn of God's seed makes it impossible to bring forth Adam's fruit !

Then you must think 1 John 1:9 is a ly of the devil.
News flash, this was written to Christians. People who have been born again

Not to mention numerous warnings in the New Testament demonstrating it's very possible for Christians to fall back in to sin such as lying

 

[Freed18]

Lying is a sin.

I agree, so what lie are you accusing me of telling ?

Which is why 1 John 1:9 is in God's Word.

It is indeed, and that verse is the means of turning our walk in darkness-sin into a walk in the light-God...in whom is no sin.
Continuing our walk in God will preclude further walks in darkness.

I see so God can be mocked and if we sow to the flesh we do not reap corruption that the Lord spoke of in Gal 6?

I don't know how you got that from my post.
God cannot be mocked, and those serving sin will get their just judgement.

That's exactly the message the devil had for Adam and Eve is they could sin against the Lord and they would not die spiritually.
Both him and you are in error according to what God says in His Word, but of course that's besides the point right?

I don't see how my statement has triggered your response.
The wages of sin is death, (Rom 6:23), and some men's sins are opened beforehand going before to judgement. (1 Tim 5:24)
That "before" judgement (death) occurs at our baptism into Christ and into His death. (Rom 6:3-6)
From that death, we are raised with Christ to walk in newness of life. (Rom 6:4)
Now, (if I remain faithfully obedient for the rest of this vessel's duration), I will live forever !

Romans 3:25 - Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God
When a person gets born again, only their past sins are forgiven and wiped away.

I agree.
And a true repentance from sin will preclude further sinning.

All sins they commit (including lying) after having been born again must be confessed and forsaken in order for them to be cleansed of those sins.

If they were truly reborn, from God's seed, that are unable to bring forth the devil's fruit.

Confessing and forsaking new sins committed (including lying) after being saved would be sowing to the Spirit as to be reaping life according to what the Lord teaches in His Word in Gal 6

Sinners have not been saved.
They have not even been converted !

That's what the gaslighting demons keep claiming, but they are in error and are to be cast out and ignored

You seem to be doubling-down on your assertion that those reborn of God's seed will keep serving sin.
I hope I am wrong.

Those that don't accept all the Lord says in His Word wouldn't know

I see your intent.

So will worship must be your thing then.
Odd how you left the Lord out which is very telling

If the grace of God, and His protections against temptation are anethema to you, we can part ways here.

Which is what you should be doing

I remain faithful, thankyou.

Then you must think 1 John 1:9 is a ly of the devil.

Nope.
It is God's way for man to quit walking in darkness-sin, and start walking in the light-God.
Confess, and be washed !

News flash, this was written to Christians. People who have been born again

It is written to Christians, about those who are not yet Christians. As are verses 6, 8, and 10, of 1 John 1.

Not to mention numerous warnings in the New Testament demonstrating it's very possible for Christians to fall back in to sin such as lying

If men accept the exhortations and admonitions of the writers of the NT, they will continue to walk in the light, which is God.
If they don't accept the exhortations and admonitions of the writers of the NT, they will manifest that their past repentance from sin was a lie to God.

 

[ScooterJackson]

I don't know how you got that from my post.
God cannot be mocked, and those serving sin will get their just judgement.

You said "The wages of sin is death, but not the second death"
So if a person commits sin and they reap corruption, your claim is sinful corrupt people go to Heaven?

That's a false gospel you got over there. You should repent at your earliest convenience!

John 8:34,35
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

Matthew 13:41,42
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

[Freed18]

You said "The wages of sin is death, but not the second death"
So if a person commits sin and they reap corruption, your claim is sinful corrupt people go to Heaven?

Oh, I see where the misunderstanding is...
The wages of sin is death, (Rom 6:23), but some men's sins are opened beforehand going before to judgement, (1 Tim 5:24), to judgement, so they have already been paid the wage of their sin, (Rom 6:3-6), and won't suffer a second death.
The unrepentant will both die physically, (first death), and then also die the second death in the lake of fire. (Rev 21:8)

That's a false gospel you got over there. You should repent at your earliest convenience!

I hope you understood my clarification.

John 8:34,35
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

Thamk God for freedom from sinning !

Matthew 13:41,42
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Let mankind be warned !