Singles and Safety -- What Are Your Best Tips and Advice for Surviving Life Alone? (Saying No, Getting Help, Standing Your Ground, Etc.)

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Hey Everyone,

Something came up in another thread that reminded me we haven't talked about this in a while -- what is your best advice for staying safe as a single?

With social media and "doxxing" (someone publicly sharing your personal information without your consent) running rampant, I think it's important to talk about this regularly.

As a disclaimer, I am NOT at all trying to say that singles are always innocent (for instance, a single might develop an inappropriate attachment to someone married.)

BUT, for the purposes of this thread, let's talk about the perspective of how someone who is alone can best look out for themselves in various life situations.

For our married friends, think of someone you love who is single -- your adult child, a neighbor, a parent who is widowed or divorced -- and how you would want them to protect themselves.

Here are some examples. What is your best advice on how someone in this situation can stay safe?

1. A single person has someone online or in real life repeatedly asking for dates/attention they aren't interested in. But the other person is relentless and keeps asking.

What should be done?


What can singles do if someone married wants to get a little too close -- or insists on hugging us every Sunday when we really don't want to?

I am certainly not trying to make marrieds out to be doing something wrong -- I am very grateful for wonderful married friends. But what I'm saying is, what happens if a single is put in a situation by a married person that makes them uncomfortable -- who can they go to for help?

And this isn't just something for the young. I know of a woman in a retirement home who had to get involved because a lonely gentleman (bless his heart) who had just lost his wife was trying to recruit her as a replacement. He was asking people exactly where she lived, intending to show up on her doorstep and invite himself in.

I know it depends on how far it goes, so let's discuss and see where it goes/what other people have experienced and how they dealt with it.


2. You or someone you love lives alone.

What measures should be taken to ensure one's safety?


I've been in situations where I've lived alone and with family or a co-worker. I personally don't invite anyone over, or even tell people specifically where I live if I don't have to. To some, that might sound hostile or paranoid, but in my circumstances, I've found it serves me well.

3. You or a single person you know "falls in love" with someone online -- who starts constantly asking for money.

Do you cut this person off? What if it's someone else you know who is having this problem?

What if you are someone whose adult/senior parent has "fallen in love" with someone 30 years younger than them online -- and is sending that person their life savings? This seems to be a growing problem that many families are struggling with.

4. As singles, we are always told to get involved with ministries. But what if we become part of ministries and leader who choose to abuse our singleness?

* What if they always have you doing/expect you to do all the grunt work because you're single (and most especially if you don't have kids?)

* What if they say spiritually manipulative things such as, "I need you to have a servant's heart," or "rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft" if you disagree with something/bring up concerns?

* A single woman here once talked about how her church had a woman's retreat -- and all the single, childless women were expected to provide free daycare instead of going to the retreat. How would you handle this?

I am especially passionate about this one (and wanting to protect other singles from this,) because I have found over time that many "ministry leaders" (at least in my experience,) aren't interested in making you more like Christ as an individual. Many are interested in making you more like them, because they see their own selves as a version of Christ you need to follow.

I am very particular about whom I give my time and resources to (usually, it's to people who are giving to and serving others without ever asking for anything for themselves, including help.)

I'm certainly not saying my way is what anyone else should do -- I'm just saying, I've seen other singles get taken advantage of by ministries because they didn't have anyone to point this out or help them set boundaries -- and I want other singles to protect themselves from spiritual predators.

5. While serving others, someone becomes too attached to you as a single.

What do you do, and who do you go to for help?

In nearly every situation I'm in, I have to be careful -- not because there's anything special about me, but because that's the nature of a broken world. People are so lonely that they will often cling on to anyone showing them any scrap of attention or kindness -- many will want to get closer to you -- and some will refuse to take no as an answer.

This is obvious in situations involving men and women -- but I've had cases where women become attached to me as well.

Both single and married women who were lonely and want me to be with them every spare moment; a woman who got mad that I had other friends; a woman who tried to attach herself to me when I was on the prayer team, calling me at 2 in the morning for more prayer because talking to me on Sunday wasn't enough.

I could certainly relate to her despair, but we are always taught to serve, serve, and serve some more -- but no one ever tells how when, or how, boundaries will need to be set.

Fortunately, I had a good team leader who noticed this, and he and his wife directed her attention to them and away from me.

I will only serve in situations where I know there is a strong, fair, and reliable leadership I know I can go to for help, if needed.

What about you?

I would love to hear your stories and tips.

We singles are always told to get involved and help out -- but no one tells us how to protect ourselves while doing so, and we need to know.
 
Ok in response to the questions:

1) Unwanted attention - You tell them point blank you aren't interested or are too busy to add another person to your life. I've never gotten to the point that I had to go to defcon 1 which is tell the person all their faults in no uncertain terms and make them feel like a sorry excuse of a human being. Hopefully I never have to do that to someone, but it is the maximum extermination option.

2) Living alone - My solution was to adopt an overly protective dog. Though really I just felt bad for the dog. Honestly I haven't had too many issues with living alone but I'm kind of reclusive. If you're worried you can always make sure you have good locks on the doors and a firearm for emergencies.

3) Online gold diggers - Just establish a personal rule now that you don't send money to people you haven't met in person and / or you don't send money without a physical mailing address to send the money to. If one of my parents starts doing that and won't listen to reason, then I'm not above messing up their internet connection so they can't get to the money sending sites. Then again my parents don't do money stuff over the internet so we're probably safe and / or I'm the one they're calling for help to set it up.

4) You really need to be secure enough in your own relationship with God to deal with those who will try to use spiritual manipulation. Don't serve leaders who can't take criticism. Know your limits and ideally you can present your availability and how much time you're willing to put in to the ministry when you start serving, then the expectations are clearly set and you don't have to feel bad about sticking to them.

5) Make liberal use of the do not disturb and block features on your phone. In person give short answers if necessary and don't engage in further conversation. If asked, you're busy and have plans (even if that's go home and read a book /watch TV) and can't hang out. If really necessary get a friend to come get you on the pretext of needing something urgent to rescue you from other person.

But then again that thing that makes people care if other people like them or think they're nice people, yeah I don't really have one of those. So if you're one of those people who has one of those overdeveloped what if this person who's taking advantage of me doesn't like me anymore hangups, umm my best advice is find your own real life cinder to run interference.
 
1 and 5. Is good but if they don't listen then you have to block their phone number and not return their messages.

You don't have to be nice, or nasty, but learn to stand your ground. If you give some people an inch, they will take a mile.

I haven't had to *touch wood* ATTACK someone for violating my personal boundaries but self-defence is important to learn.

Some simple words to learn

NO
NO THANK YOU
GO AWAY
LEAVE ME ALONE
GOODBYE
THAT'S ENOUGH

If you need an immediate excuse to cut short a conversation then use these

I HAVE TO GO (TO THE TOILET)
I'M *COUGH* *COUGH*
I'M REALLY BUSY ATM CAN I CALL YOU BACK
SORRY NOT RIGHT NOW
LATER
 
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We are definitely living in interesting times.

Traditionally, society, and especially church culture, seems to think of singles as a generic group of young people (20's and 30's) that needs to be taught life lessons.

But times are very quickly changing.

One of the reasons I brought this subject up is because I'm hearing an increasing number of stories of people whose parents and grandparents have entered the dating world -- and are often getting scammed online.

The entire landscape of the single's scene is changing -- and we get plenty of people who seem to know how to "school" young singles.

But no one talks about what to do when your 72-year-old father wants to give his life savings to what he's sure is a 30-year-old girl from Thailand claiming her supposed undying love.

Even 20 years ago I worked at a store where older people would come in to wire money to some alleged young boyfriend or girlfriend in another country.

I can't imagine how much worse it is now, with older people being some of the most vulnerable to online interactions and AI.
 
Don't you have 'Judge Judy' in your country?

I remember watching that show and thinking 'why are people so dumb/stupid'?! Or why Americans in particular seem a bit dense, or why they didn't seem to know how the world worked, or that there were other countries that existed and people outside of it too who had their own lives and didn't exist just to serve them.

I'm not thinking of falling in love online scam but living in a small country islands at the bottom of the world and people coming here to live from the other side, its like, you wire money to your family overseas if necessary, you don't wire money to some random person you've NEVER MET who isn't your family.

Also our exchange rate (currency) isn't that favourable!

I always think it's a bit suss for people to 'fall in love' online. How can you just 'fall in love' with someone you've never seen in the flesh, never held hands with or kissed. I mean sure be friendly or make friends, but love? Love to me is affection and something that needs to be tangible.

They could just be saying it to everyone and anyone! And you wouldn't know because the only time you'd see them or contact them was when they sitting in front of a computer! With an internet connection! What happens if they go off-grid or go outside. Oh but now we have wifi and apps and stuff but still. Get some ID and a clue people!
 
Don't you have 'Judge Judy' in your country?

I remember watching that show and thinking 'why are people so dumb/stupid'?! Or why Americans in particular seem a bit dense, or why they didn't seem to know how the world worked, or that there were other countries that existed and people outside of it too who had their own lives and didn't exist just to serve them.


I'm not thinking of falling in love online scam but living in a small country islands at the bottom of the world and people coming here to live from the other side, its like, you wire money to your family overseas if necessary, you don't wire money to some random person you've NEVER MET who isn't your family.

Also our exchange rate (currency) isn't that favourable!

I always think it's a bit suss for people to 'fall in love' online. How can you just 'fall in love' with someone you've never seen in the flesh, never held hands with or kissed. I mean sure be friendly or make friends, but love? Love to me is affection and something that needs to be tangible.

They could just be saying it to everyone and anyone! And you wouldn't know because the only time you'd see them or contact them was when they sitting in front of a computer! With an internet connection! What happens if they go off-grid or go outside. Oh but now we have wifi and apps and stuff but still. Get some ID and a clue people!


Well, you do know that they take the most exaggerated cases (and often scripted) for shows like that, right? People in their right minds who make responsible life choices won't get views and ratings.

I can assure you all Americans aren't like that, lol! :)
 
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I actually have some personal experience with this. I have been caught up in an online scam and at one point I even travelled somewhere thinking I would finally find out what was really going on. Eventually I had to admit, “Oh man, I really fell for it.” And apparently I didn't learn my lesson the first time, because I made a similar kind of mistake again.
The thing is, these scammers can be incredibly good at what they do. Looking back, there were red flags, but when someone has managed to get you emotionally attached, they can pull exactly the right strings.

I once watched The Tinder Swindler... or something like that on Netflix and it was actually quite scary. As a viewer, you are sitting there thinking, “Oh no, don't believe everything he is telling you!” But when you are the person being manipulated, it's completely different. They know exactly what you want to hear and how to keep you emotionally hooked.

So I don't think everyone who falls for an online scam is simply stupid or naive. Some of these people are very, very good at manipulation.
 
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I actually have some personal experience with this. I have been caught up in an online scam and at one point I even travelled somewhere thinking I would finally find out what was really going on. Eventually I had to admit, “Oh man, I really fell for it.” And apparently I didn't learn my lesson the first time, because I made a similar kind of mistake again.
The thing is, these scammers can be incredibly good at what they do. Looking back, there were red flags, but when someone has managed to get you emotionally attached, they can pull exactly the right strings.

I once watched The Tinder Swindler... or something like that on Netflix and it was actually quite scary. As a viewer, you are sitting there thinking, “Oh no, don't believe everything he is telling you!” But when you are the person being manipulated, it's completely different. They know exactly what you want to hear and how to keep you emotionally hooked.

So I don't think everyone who falls for an online scam is simply stupid or naive. Some of these people are very, very good at manipulation.

Thank you so much for sharing this!!

I think it's so important for people to be aware. We think it won't happen to us, and then it does -- or to someone we love.

I've listened to a lot of stories about such scams and scammers are going to incredible lengths to deceive people. Many have several fish on the line so they don't mind taking months or even years "building up a relationship" with someone (i.e., "pig butchering scams" -- fattening up the pigs over time to see how much can be extracted from them.)

I agree with you that people aren't always just stupid. They're often lonely and have gone through great heartbreaks that others don't understand.

If someone loses their spouse of 50 years, they're likely going to be fairly susceptible to someone, anyone, paying special attention to them. And nowadays, with AI, scammers can give images and even "live" chats with any type of person they think others will be interested in.

I've been around older people most of my life and the loneliness they feel, especially after losing a lifetime companion, is devastating -- leaving them in a place of doing almost anything to replace that, because it's all they've ever known.

I listened to one case about a 60-something woman in the UK who actually went to another country to meet her supposed boyfriend. He lavished her with gifts and clothes to take home. Unbeknownst to her, the gifts were filled with drugs (in the buttons and linings, etc.), and if she'd made it home, he was going to have a contact there come and get these things from her (she, of course, didn't realize this.)

However, she was caught at the airport, and having no way of proving her innocence, is now sitting in a foreign jail with her family spending all the money they can pool together on international lawyers to try to bring her home.
 
1. A single person has someone online or in real life repeatedly asking for dates/attention they aren't interested in. But the other person is relentless and keeps asking.

This used to happen to me more when I was younger, but as I've gotten older and more grumpy (lol) it rarely happens. I get stern with people who try to play matchmaker with me and someone they know. I do not care for matchmaking at all. I prefer to build up a connection with someone organically. I get stern with people. I've learned that if I'm not stern and put my foot down, people will try to walk all over you. They may not mean to and they may mean well, but if they don't stop then I have to get stern. People really need respect other people's space and boundaries.

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2. You or someone you love lives alone.
What measures should be taken to ensure one's safety?


Personally, I'm all for being well armed. I personally don't want pets in my life, but I'm definitely all about being prepared with protection. I live on the edge of the country and my area attracts some less than ideal people. For example, someone tried to kicked the front door in one night. The fools didn't know what was waiting for them on the other side. They should be thankful they didn't make it through the door and as a result get "sent to the other side" with that foolishness. If I'm out at night, I carry a handgun. In the daytime, I carry pepper gel. My best friend isn't partial to firearms. Concerned with her safety, I got her a stun gun. She seemed happy with that.

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3. You or a single person you know "falls in love" with someone online -- who starts constantly asking for money.

Thankfully, this hasn't happened to me. If I sense someone is a scammer, I don't engage with them. If someone were to ask me for money, they are going to end up blocked, especially if I've never met them in person and/or don't know them well enough. I'm kind of a recluse, even online, so this probably keeps me from these types of folks.
Years ago, a close friend got entangle with someone online and she was sending him money. I tried to warn her, her other friends tried to warn her. I told her that it's not her responsibility to take care of him and pay for things for him. It can be very hard to get some people to see things clearly when they have rose colored glasses on.
Her attitude started changing. She started to become more irritable and angry at people around her. All she seemed to care about was him and making sure she sent him money. Thankfully, she eventually came to her senses and cut things off with him.
Emotions can be a good thing, but we all need to be careful when it comes to love. I think we need to take our time with matters as important as love. When someone wants to rush things, that's a red flag. If they are dropping the L word soon, that's concerning. A guy friend of mine told me a long time ago, "When things are rushed, they go wrong."
 
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Well, you do know that they take the most exaggerated cases (and often scripted) for shows like that, right? People in their right minds who make responsible life choices won't get views and ratings.

I can assure you all Americans aren't like that, lol! :)
Like Jerry Springer. I never knew if there were actually people like that or was it all faked and staged.
 
If it sounds too good to be true it isn't

Yes there are some sophisticated scammers and vulnerable people out there, but I can say yes we all do stupid things or put ourselves in danger if we don't really know better. Myself included. Just need to learn from them that's all. Be smart.

I'm actually quite wary of anyone that flatters me too much. Sometimes that is actually the way some people are, they say you are awesome and special and admire you but they say that to everyone. Then they start asking for favours and feel like you can't say no.

Dont' fall in the trap of someone saying 'you are my only friend' or 'you are my best friend' because you are allowed more than one friend and there will be other friends that maybe you don't know about.
 
Don't you have 'Judge Judy' in your country?

I remember watching that show and thinking 'why are people so dumb/stupid'?! Or why Americans in particular seem a bit dense, or why they didn't seem to know how the world worked, or that there were other countries that existed and people outside of it too who had their own lives and didn't exist just to serve them.

I'm not thinking of falling in love online scam but living in a small country islands at the bottom of the world and people coming here to live from the other side, its like, you wire money to your family overseas if necessary, you don't wire money to some random person you've NEVER MET who isn't your family.

Also our exchange rate (currency) isn't that favourable!

I always think it's a bit suss for people to 'fall in love' online. How can you just 'fall in love' with someone you've never seen in the flesh, never held hands with or kissed. I mean sure be friendly or make friends, but love? Love to me is affection and something that needs to be tangible.

They could just be saying it to everyone and anyone! And you wouldn't know because the only time you'd see them or contact them was when they sitting in front of a computer! With an internet connection! What happens if they go off-grid or go outside. Oh but now we have wifi and apps and stuff but still. Get some ID and a clue people!
Desperation can make a person do strange things. And there are lots and lots of people who are good at identifying and profiting from desperation.
 
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What should be done is to ditch the self-deprecating label of "single", find some other identities that make you comfortable and proud, and be assured that you're already complete, partner or possesion is just bonus on top of what God has already blessed you with.
 
What should be done is to ditch the self-deprecating label of "single", find some other identities that make you comfortable and proud, and be assured that you're already complete, partner or possesion is just bonus on top of what God has already blessed you with.

You can also redefine the label of "single" into exactly those things.

This is one of the things I've liked about getting older. I don't let people define me as much as when I was younger.

I now look at things like, "Am I keeping up with my bills? Do I still have my family and friends? Am I still following God?"

Outside of that, nothing else really matters (to me, at least.)

It's a funny thing. I have several friends who have been married for up to 30+ years now -- and they all tell me that if I can stand being single, don't get married. They love their families, but they're tired of everything it takes to keep up with them.

But just as they tell me to stay single, I always tell them, "If you've found someone you've come this far with in life, don't give that up, because I can tell you, there's NOTHING out here (in the world of dating.)"
 
You can also redefine the label of "single" into exactly those things.

This is one of the things I've liked about getting older. I don't let people define me as much as when I was younger.

I now look at things like, "Am I keeping up with my bills? Do I still have my family and friends? Am I still following God?"

Outside of that, nothing else really matters (to me, at least.)

It's a funny thing. I have several friends who have been married for up to 30+ years now -- and they all tell me that if I can stand being single, don't get married. They love their families, but they're tired of everything it takes to keep up with them.

But just as they tell me to stay single, I always tell them, "If you've found someone you've come this far with in life, don't give that up, because I can tell you, there's NOTHING out here (in the world of dating.)"
One pastor said that it's much better to desire being married when you're single than to desire being single when you're married. Marriage had only become a necessity, a common practice and a pleasure for the boomer generation, and it had only become a priority, a huge issue in Christianity during the boomer generation. Before and after them, it's more of a burden for the poor and a luxury for the rich. It's so overrated.
 
One pastor said that it's much better to desire being married when you're single than to desire being single when you're married. Marriage had only become a necessity, a common practice and a pleasure for the boomer generation, and it had only become a priority, a huge issue in Christianity during the boomer generation. Before and after them, it's more of a burden for the poor and a luxury for the rich. It's so overrated.


I definitely agree with the first sentence of your post.

And while I respect your opinion, I think it must duly note that you've never been married.

It's harder to take blanket statements seriously when they're made from only observation and no actual experience.

It's not that what you're saying doesn't have some validity -- it just completely ignores God's individual design and calling for different people, no matter their social class.
 
I definitely agree with the first sentence of your post.

And while I respect your opinion, I think it must duly note that you've never been married.

It's harder to take blanket statements seriously when they're made from only observation and no actual experience.

It's not that what you're saying doesn't have some validity -- it just completely ignores God's individual design and calling for different people, no matter their social class.
God won't tempt you with more than what you can handle. Marriage is not for everyone, God has different fate and calling for each individual, exactly as you said. And if it's not your fate and calling, then here's a saying, "the root of all sorrow is unsatisfied desires." Just let it go.
 
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God won't tempt you with more than what you can handle. Marriage is not for everyone, God has different fate and calling for each individual, exactly as you said. And if it's not your fate and calling, then here's a saying, "the root of all sorrow is unsatisfied desires." Just let it go.

Excellent thoughts.

And thank you for being willing to listen to (read) what I had to say! 👍🏼
 
Desperation can make a person do strange things. And there are lots and lots of people who are good at identifying and profiting from desperation.
Too many lawyers and lawsuits in your country?

IDK

I haven't watched too many episodes of Judge Judy, actually it is rather boring, but I do remember her saying 'Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining'

The US tv 'reality' show that shocks me is Hoarders, or maybe Storage Wars, I mean the idea of stuffing your house full of stuff, so much so you need to buy extra space, and then never using it. You can't fit any friends or family in your house, it's too full of your stuff. For health and safety reasons, people that do this need to be evicted...! And all their stuff taken to the tip, but then they can't bear to part with it, so would rather live in their own tip.

Can't survive alone without your stuff? I am sure Jesus said a lot about that in the Bible.
 
My tip is it is, for those people with hoarding tendencies, you are better off cleaning up, decluttering, selling you home if it's yours to sell, and living in a one bedroom studio apartment. Some apartments do have security, and even concierges so you can just lock and leave...and use all the money you've saved from selling and then NOT buying stuff, to go on holiday and have adventures.