So, the President is going to read to us from the Bible?

[MicaelOhagan]

There are plenty of New testament references that if we are servants or if we are masters or whatever we are doing in this world we do it as unto the Lord. Don't claim that this is Caesar who you are serving, you are serving the Lord Jesus, you can be a janitor, or the principal, or the President.

Sorry
You've completely misunderstood my meaning
I shall state clearly
Focussing on world leaders
As if it actually mattered
Is taking the position of giving your thoughts and minds to the things of Caesar
Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God
I hope that's clear enough
I by the Spirit prefer the gentle way
But I could be brutally specific
If that's what is needed
But I hope, in the case of my brethren
That's not required
May The Spirit of Pure Love fill your heart and guide your mind

 

[ZNP]

Sorry
You've completely misunderstood my meaning
I shall state clearly
Focussing on world leaders
As if it actually mattered
Is taking the position of giving your thoughts and minds to the things of Caesar
Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God
I hope that's clear enough
I by the Spirit prefer the gentle way
But I could be brutally specific
If that's what is needed
But I hope, in the case of my brethren
That's not required
May The Spirit of Pure Love fill your heart and guide your mind

And how are we to watch for the Lord's return if we are not paying attention to the signs He gave us and the prophecies in the bible?

 

[MicaelOhagan]

You understand you are literally saying that Christ is the leader of the US, England, Canada and any other country that express the thought it is free?

Actually, scripture tells us the world is not free. Satan is the god of this world. So.......

If the Son sets you free you are free indeed
I stated clearly and without reservation
Jesus is the leader of the free world
If you misinterpreted that in a human way
I apologise
I tried to use the spirits preferred words of gentle truth
I could be blunt if that's what's needed
Just like the Jews 2thousand years ago
They expected to be freed from external tyranny
Jesus,
Almost, apart from one line, totally bypassed that thought, and homed straight to the real enemy

And how are we to watch for the Lord's return if we are not paying attention to the signs He gave us and the prophecies in the bible?

To quote a quote
Work with your own hands and mind your own business
No one knows the time nor date of the Lord's return
But we are "commanded" by all scripture to pay attention to ourselves
Maybe I'm looking with childlike eyes?
I hope so
May The Spirit of Pure Love fill your heart with love and guide your mind

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

And how are we to watch for the Lord's return if we are not paying attention to the signs He gave us and the prophecies in the bible?

This is why I put him on ignore. He's basically telling me to disobey God. I have no time for that busy body.


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[MicaelOhagan]

This is why I put him on ignore. He's basically telling me to disobey God. I have no time for that busy body.


🕊

Oh my
I can hardly bring myself to respond
I'll revert to one of my favourite Christian reggae songs
Keep your peace and let love reign
So
Despite id desperately love to reply
I withhold and say
No comment

 

[pinebeach]

If the Son sets you free you are free indeed
I stated clearly and without reservation
Jesus is the leader of the free world
If you misinterpreted that in a human way
I apologise
I tried to use the spirits preferred words of gentle truth
I could be blunt if that's what's needed
Just like the Jews 2thousand years ago
They expected to be freed from external tyranny
Jesus,
Almost, apart from one line, totally bypassed that thought, and homed straight to the real enemy

To quote a quote
Work with your own hands and mind your own business
No one knows the time nor date of the Lord's return
But we are "commanded" by all scripture to pay attention to ourselves
Maybe I'm looking with childlike eyes?
I hope so
May The Spirit of Pure Love fill your heart with love and guide your mind

Uh huh. I have been set free from trying to understand nonsense and lots of words that try to cover up a lack of understanding

The human error here is you being ignorant of scripture and trying to create a doctrine that does not exist outside of your own thoughts.

 

[MicaelOhagan]

Uh huh. I have been set free from trying to understand nonsense and lots of words that try to cover up a lack of understanding

The human error here is you being ignorant of scripture and trying to create a doctrine that does not exist outside of your own thoughts.

Oh wow
So much for being gentle
Take me apart why don't you
But hey
If you listen closely you'll see
That's not the spirits way
So
I forgive your attack
May The Spirit of Pure Love fill your heart and guide your mind

 

[pinebeach]

Oh wow
So much for being gentle
Take me apart why don't you
But hey
If you listen closely you'll see
That's not the spirits way
So
I forgive your attack
May The Spirit of Pure Love fill your heart and guide your mind

Oh wow! oh woah is me! oh oh oh. Cut out the false humilty.

You are in conflict with scripture. That, is not how the Holy Spirit helps us to understand.

I don't want any spirit you are giving out anywhere near me. I am filled with the Holy Spirit and there is no room for whatever spirit you think you are handing out.

Correct yourself before taking on anyone else.

 

[MicaelOhagan]

Oh wow! oh woah is me! oh oh oh. Cut out the false humilty.

You are in conflict with scripture. That, is not how the Holy Spirit helps us to understand.

I don't want any spirit you are giving out anywhere near me. I am filled with the Holy Spirit and there is no room for whatever spirit you think you are handing out.

Correct yourself before taking on anyone else.

Ok
I forgive you
Please remember
You have to spend eternity with me in your presence
I know by your words you don't believe that
But
It's ok
I'll see you in paradise
May The Spirit of Pure Love fill your heart and guide your mind

 

[pinebeach]

Ok
I forgive you
Please remember
You have to spend eternity with me in your presence
I know by your words you don't believe that
But
It's ok
I'll see you in paradise
May The Spirit of Pure Love fill your heart and guide your mind

Is that an Irish brogue I detect?

Focussing on world leaders
As if it actually mattered

It seems to matter to you

I could be blunt if that's what's needed

yes please. Do be blunt. It would be refreshing.

 

[MicaelOhagan]

Lol
Now you're reading my name and pretending it's a brogue detection
Be honest for heavens sake

 

[ZNP]

al tyranny
Jesus,
Almost, apart from one line, totally bypassed that thought, and homed straight to the real enemy

To quote a quote
Work with your own hands and mind your own business
No one knows the time nor date of the Lord's return
But we are "commanded" by all scripture to pay attention to ourselves
Maybe I'm looking with childlike eyes?
I hope so
May The Spirit of Pure Love fill your heart with love and guide your mind

We are also commanded to watch.

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Mark 13:33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is...35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:...37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Luke 12:27 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

 

[MicaelOhagan]

Is that an Irish brogue I detect?

It seems to matter to you



yes please. Do be blunt. It would be refreshing.

I'm afraid I've lost the thread
I'm not good at online communication
Remind me of our apparent disagreement that lead to to the offer of being blunt
Which you have invited
Id hate to get this wrong
I'm speaking directly with brethren and what I say cannot be retracted later

 

[MicaelOhagan]

Ok
I've scrolled back
It seems you reject the statement that Jesus is the leader of the free world
You directly challenged my statement
That's understandable
You probably misunderstood
Jesus was expected by his followers to overthrow the Roman empire
But He had something better in mind
The overthrowing of the human ego
That's the real emancipation
It's easy to look outwards to spot the enemy
But the real enemy is within
In the human heart
Jesus didn't say
Out of some human hearts comes such and such
He says
Out of the human heart
That includes you and me
So
No time
No point considering Trump
Consider yourself is the message
Anyone can consider the wrong in someone else
The ego thrives on that

 

[pinebeach]

Ok
I've scrolled back
It seems you reject the statement that Jesus is the leader of the free world
You directly challenged my statement
That's understandable
You probably misunderstood
Jesus was expected by his followers to overthrow the Roman empire
But He had something better in mind
The overthrowing of the human ego
That's the real emancipation
It's easy to look outwards to spot the enemy
But the real enemy is within
In the human heart
Jesus didn't say
Out of some human hearts comes such and such
He says
Out of the human heart
That includes you and me
So
No time
No point considering Trump
Consider yourself is the message
Anyone can consider the wrong in someone else
The ego thrives on that

I reject what is not true.

See, you are in the news forum. People talk about news in that forum.

If you want to discuss the Bible and all that Jesus did or did not say, perhaps exercise your ego in the BDF....Bible discussion forum

All the rest of your observations only amount to you coming on board and telling everyone else here how they should reply, how they should think and other such homilies

 

[pinebeach]

Lol
Now you're reading my name and pretending it's a brogue detection
Be honest for heavens sake

I will be blunt in that case. I asked a question. I did not say you had one.

But should you be using heaven in your comment? I don't believe that expression honours your 'I'll take the high road" way of flitting about here.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

He's merely a man
The leader of the free world
Is and always shall be
The Lord Jesus Christ

Not to be technical but Jesus is King, He is God of the whole world. "Leader of the Free World" is a Cold War-era phrase referring to the President of the United States as the head of the Western democratic bloc against Soviet communism. It signifies the US president’s role in leading allied nations and upholding democratic values, rather than exercising direct authority over them. It's been said of every president since then, we all understand that they are just men.

 

[HeIsHere]

Sorry
You've completely misunderstood my meaning
I shall state clearly
Focussing on world leaders
As if it actually mattered
Is taking the position of giving your thoughts and minds to the things of Caesar
Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God
I hope that's clear enough
I by the Spirit prefer the gentle way
But I could be brutally specific
If that's what is needed
But I hope, in the case of my brethren
That's not required
May The Spirit of Pure Love fill your heart and guide your mind

This reminds of that old evangelical saying "too heavenly minded to be any earthly good."

Along with the folly of taking one statement made by Christ Jesus made to religious and political leaders of the time, who were attempting to trap him and then saying it is the standard for Christian behaviour is a faulty application.

 

[MicaelOhagan]

I reject what is not true.

See, you are in the news forum. People talk about news in that forum.

If you want to discuss the Bible and all that Jesus did or did not say, perhaps exercise your ego in the BDF....Bible discussion forum

All the rest of your observations only amount to you coming on board and telling everyone else here how they should reply, how they should think and other such homilies

Oh wow
Ouch!!
I'm sure you mean well
But unfortunately for you
If you really are regenerate
Your going to have to put up with me for all eternity
May as well get used to it
And learn
Love your enemy

I will be blunt in that case. I asked a question. I did not say you had one.

But should you be using heaven in your comment? I don't believe that expression honours your 'I'll take the high road" way of flitting about here.

Sorry
Im not in the slightest put off by your underhanded attack
If you truly are regenerate
Your going to have to put up with me for all eternity
May as well
Make friends in the here and now
Later it will be more difficult for you

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Cognitive dissonance is when someone holds two contradictory beliefs. For example, on the one hand someone might believe the current president is a vile person; but on the other hand they will claim he's the best person for the country, at least better than any Democrat. I fail to see how a vile person could possibly be the best person for the country. If you try to point out their contradiction they just say you have Trump derangement syndrome and write you off so they don't have to confront their own dissonance.

Vile person, as in Biden, Obama or Clinton, even Bush claimed a victory when there wasn't one. Don't know if he believed it or was lying. But no one lies more frequently than the Dems, I don't know if they could tell the truth if their lives depended upon it.