Some things about the law that need explaining.

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Magenta

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Do you regard yourself belonging to either the house of Israel or Judah, where the new covenant will be made with? (Hebrews 8:8)
I regard myself as Scripture attests: I am part of the Body of Christ.

Why speak of Jew vs gentile? There is neither in Christ Jesus.

Now please answer my question. Are you under the NC, or not?

Truly, your refusal to answer is a concern, as are your other responses.
 
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I regard myself as Scripture attests: I am part of the Body of Christ.

Why speak of Jew vs gentile? There is neither in Christ Jesus.

Now please answer my question. Are you under the NC, o no?

Truly, your refusal o answer is a concern, as are your other responses.
If you have been following the discussion I had with posthuman earlier in this thread, my answer is no.
 

gb9

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If one believes the body of Christ is equivalent to Israel, then I understand why they do not.

Does that happen be your doctrine too?

my view-

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will saved.

it is not do that and become jewish and keep the Law of Moses.
 
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my view-

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will saved.

it is not do that and become jewish and keep the Law of Moses.
Even though that is not answering my question, Alright then
 

Yahshua

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Since the nation Israel fell, all Jews and gentiles are now saved thru the body of Christ thru the gospel of the grace of God that was revealed to Paul.
Would you agree that Christ offered himself (full of grace and truth) to the Jews before their fall? That it was their rejection of Him (i.e. salvation) that caused their fall?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If you have been following the discussion I had with posthuman earlier in this thread, my answer is no.
Then sadly, you have no hope, your still lost.

come to faith in Christ, and he will save you
 
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Would you agree that Christ offered himself (full of grace and truth) to the Jews before their fall? That it was their rejection of Him (i.e. salvation) that caused their fall?
The idea of repentance is for the Jews and can be viewed from the parable of the tenants, told in all 3 synoptic gospels. (Matthew 21:33–46; Mark 12:1-12; Luke 20:9-19)

When Jesus and the 12 were preaching from Matt-John, they need to repent of rejecting God their Father in the OT, and believe in his Son is their promised King and Messiah, as foretold by their prophets. The Jewish nation had rejected and killed many of those prophets.

God had mercy on them and now decided to send his Son to them now. But as Jesus told them in the parable of the tenants, they were wicked and decided to slay the son instead, thinking they can then take control of the vineyard. The words they told Pilate was really horrific from this perspective

Matthew 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

When Jesus was on the cross, he asked his father to forgive them for this act, because they know not what they do, the Father agreed to Jesus request.

Israel stumbled at the Cross, but were forgiven (Luke 23:34).

They were given another opportunity, after they stumbled at the cross (Luke 13:6-9).

Salvation was still to Israel first before Gentiles, after Jesus rose again (Acts 1:6, Acts 3:26).

That is what Paul was trying to say when he remarked that they did not stumble so as to fall (Romans 11:11).

So when Peter urged his Jewish brothers at Pentecost to repent (Acts 2:38), they are to repent from their horrific act of murdering the Son of God, and accept him once again as the Son of God and their King, since Jesus's resurrection showed, as Peter stated, he is indeed the Messiah and the Son of God. (Acts 2:36)

But Israel finally fell when they stoned Stephen in Acts 7, it was that fall that salvation was now given to the gentiles (Romans 11:11) God blinded the nation temporary, setting his secret plan in motion to save us Gentiles, independent of Israel.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Have you read that link I have provided for you already, before you are so sure of that?
If you think you are not under the covenant of,Christ I fear for your soul
 
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If you think you are not under the covenant of,Christ I fear for your soul
You think this way because of your doctrine where Cross = New Covenant.

Have you ever considered the possibility that it is the wrong doctrine to hold?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You think this way because of your doctrine where Cross = New Covenant.

Have you ever considered the possibility that it is the wrong doctrine to hold?
Nope, to think so would be to reject the gospel
 
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Nope, to think so would be to reject the gospel
Alright then.

I could have also called you stubborn but then again, as I said, we are always the protagonist in our own minds so there is really no point in doing so, cheers.
 

ewq1938

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You think this way because of your doctrine where Cross = New Covenant.

Have you ever considered the possibility that it is the wrong doctrine to hold?
What denomination do you belong to? I have never heard anyone say these types of things.
 

ewq1938

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I guess if you really want to know, the link that I provided earlier might shed some clues to that
That page has a lot of stuff on it. Can you just tell me rather than send me to find clues?