Foundation The place to be with All to share The Holy Spirit without that it's just words men want to hear thenself speaking not speaking The Glory of The Lord Jesus with The Anointing
You bet, we are the real winners.Yeah us swine AKA gentile Got the best deal no doubt about it there's no way I could keep the laws and if moses.none!
That's what you have been told.I’m enjoying another wonderful Sabbath, I’m so glad I was able to find it through Bible study , and the Holy Spirits teaching ! Search the scriptures, early believers practiced it . As Jesus said if you are my disciples you will continue in my word , you shall know the truth and it will set you free ! Amen !
I agree, but it caused a fight within my self,, I knew it was right but I also knew I must come out of the world which meant I would lose friends and family would be up set, but the worst was my wife, she was not being called, only me.God forces no one to be saved against their will.
If He did that He would have forced Satan to be saved and saved the world a lot of trouble.
The sharpe part in best place it piercing Our Hearts , God is Lovecameron
If this has been painful for you I am sorry my brain is not as sharp as when I was 60 and 70 -- I am 86.
Promised Holy Spirit in a clean vessels templeWhat does that mean?
You constantly use the phrase "Father's spirit" when referring to the Holy Spirit.there are two births, the first to flesh and the second to spirit as per Christ.
The "heart", the Divine nature of The Father must grow in us and increase until death or the First Resurrection
At the laying on of hands the Father places HIS Spirit into us, which gives us a small measure of His divine nature.
God's plan is physical first, followed by Spirit
Adam then Christ
lamb Passover then Christ our Passover
Physical birth followed by our spiritual birth into spirit.
This is scattered here a little and there a little throughout the Old and the New.
If this could be proven 100% by scripture, there would be no question, but like many beliefs it can not.
the "born again' doctrine is not even 100% throughout the tens of thousands of churches.
I will only look to what Christ taught.
My hope is to be born of the Father's spirit, into spirit as a son of the Father
my own thoughts; at the laying on of hands, the Father put into me His Spirit which is His spirit seed/sperm, at that moment, impregnating me with His seed and I became a spirit fetus waiting to be born into spirit,
this could be how Christ was placed in Mary's womb.
Yeah us swine AKA gentile Got the best deal no doubt about it there's no way I could keep the laws and if moses.none!
The sharpe part in best place it piercing Our Hearts , God is Love
Promised Holy Spirit in a clean vessels temple
I can't say that wasn't possible. Personally, I regard 1Pet 3:20 as describing how Noah, and his wife and their sons and their sons wives, heard God's word, by the Holy Spirit. It can only be assumed that they heard Him from within themselves, at least in that mention (but it's in the NT). However, deep calls to deep, and Spirit to spirit, as far as I can see it. I will make sure to take note of the first instance I encounter any explicit mention of the Holy Spirit indwelling a person in the OT. I'd never thought of that project before now.I agree, but the Prophets, Joseph, David and others did have the Holy Spirit in them. and most by the laying on of hands.
I have read, not counted my self, over 100 had the Holy Spirit and possibly at total of 4 or 500. no one else until Christ.
What does that mean?
Sorry got throw wrong thread But let Him work it!Truth the little message covers much of Him.Why are they blessed its ,rt there to know HS speak clear
You constantly use the phrase "Father's spirit" when referring to the Holy Spirit.
I asked AI why you would refer to the Holy Spirit as the Father's spirit?
The Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) belief regarding the Holy Spirit shifted dramatically from the 1800s to the 21st century, moving from a generally anti-trinitarian view to a fully trinitarian one. [1, 2, 3]
Differences in Holy Spirit Beliefs (1800s vs. 21st Century)
- 19th Century (Early Pioneers): Most early Adventist pioneers (such as Joseph Bates, Uriah Smith, and J.H. Waggoner) held anti-trinitarian views. They generally believed the Holy Spirit was the omnipresent influence, power, or energy of God the Father and/or Christ, rather than a distinct, personal divine being.
- "Materialistic" View: Early SDAs believed in a "material" God, meaning they believed God the Father and Christ had physical forms, whereas the Holy Spirit was seen as the influence radiating from them.
- Christ's Divinity: Early leaders often viewed Christ as begotten (having a beginning) rather than eternally existent, though this view began to shift in the 1890s.
- 21st Century (Modern SDA): The modern SDA church (formalized in 1980) defines the Holy Spirit as the third person of the Godhead, fully divine, co-eternal, and a distinct person, not just a force.
"Spirit of the Father" and Early Beliefs
The phrase "spirit of the Father" or "spirit of Christ" was commonly used by early SDAs. [1, 2]
Please use the phrase "the Holy Spirit" and avoid the usage of that term "the Father's spirit.
- Does it reflect the old view? Yes, it reflects the early belief that the Holy Spirit was not a distinct, separate personality, but rather the Father's own spirit or presence extended everywhere.
- The Transition: While Ellen White wrote in The Desire of Ages (1898) that the Holy Spirit is "the Comforter, in Christ's name... a distinct personality," many pioneers continued to define it as the Spirit of God/Christ for years after.
- Modern Perspective: Modern Adventist theology still uses biblical language like "Spirit of Christ," but interprets it within a Trinity framework where the Holy Spirit is a distinct person within the Godhead, yet perfectly united with the Father and Son.
It took over a century for the SDA to realize that they were a heretical church!
It means to “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as in 2CR 4:5 & CL 2:6). Another way is “Saving faith is loving Jesus as Messiah and Lord.” The main points of Christian orthodoxy implicit in this statement can be explained or elaborated as follows:
Also see 1Cor. 12:13, Rom. 5:5 & 8:9, Eph. 4:4-6.
- There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or God (DT 6:4, JN 3:16, 2THS 1:6), who is both able (2TM 1:12) and willing (1TM 2:3-4, EZK 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
- Human beings are selfish or sinful (RM 3:23, 2TM 3:2-4, CL 3:5), miserable (GL 5:19-21), and hopeless (EPH 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (MT 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (JN 3:18, RM 2:5-11).
- Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (JN 3:16, ACTS 16:30-31, PHP 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (RM 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1CR 15:14-28).
- Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (LK 2:11, JN 14:6, ACTS 16:31), which means trying to obey His commandment to love one another (MT 22:37-40, JN 13:35, RM 13:9)—forever (MT 10:22, PS 113:2).
- Then God’s Holy Spirit will establish a saving relationship with those who freely accept Him (RV 3:20) that will eventually achieve heaven when by means of persevering in learning Truth/God’s Word/sanctification everyone cooperates fully with His will (JN 14:6, 17&26, RM 8:6-17, GL 6:7-9, EPH 1:13-14, HB 10:36, 12:1, JM 1:2-4).