Some thoughts on the Sabbath...

[GWH]

All of Scripture is true, so the Gospel shiny be interpreted as contradicting OT laws and vice versa. In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and OT laws were how his audience knew what sin is, so repenting from our disobedience to them is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom/Grace.

And Jesus ended his ministry by inspiring Heb. 7:11-10:1 to point us in the right direction when trying to understand how the OT and NT jibe/should be harmonized, which is the way/direction Jesus and the Apostles went/commented and the way we should, too.

 

[Dino246]

Not sure how to understand --

there are "the many" but there is a difference? the few can also be the many or is it the many can also be the few??

Jesus Christ called those the Father calls to HIM -- His little flock!

32 Fear {5737} not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

Logically from this Statement from the mouth of Jesus Christ I must believe those that the Father gave to Christ to be His Bride, are FEW IN NUMBER --i.e. the Few.

it is the FEW that are given the Kingdom, ---- not the many that are lawless.

question, how many of the 45,000 would agree with what you believe to be the truth?
my guess, there would be 2 billion different ideals as to what is Truth.

And we are told to be of ONE MIND!

You keep repeating this “45,000” lie, and you whine about not being of one mind? Get some integrity!

 

[memberofthebride]

You keep repeating this “45,000” lie, and you whine about not being of one mind? Get some integrity!

 

[Seeker47]

You missed the point, which was/is that the correct direction for understanding Scripture is forward:
interpret the OT in light of the NT (Heb. 7:11-10:1), not the reverse.

Nope, I respectfully disagree.

 

[Soyeong]

And Jesus ended his ministry by inspiring Heb. 7:11-10:1 to point us in the right direction when trying to understand how the OT and NT jibe/should be harmonized, which is the way/direction Jesus and the Apostles went/commented and the way we should, too.

If you think that Hebrews 7:11-10:1 should be interpreted in a way that is contrary to Christ’s ministry, then you should not consider it to be inspired by Christ.

 

[memberofthebride]

even if there were only a few dozen -- There is to be ONE BODY of Christ - not dozens: One bride, One church

can you prove which of the churches, how ever many you believe exist, are the Church Jesus Christ established on Pentecost with 120, believing and teaching the same doctrine Christ taught the 13 Apostles?

Paul foretold that when he died damnable heresies will come --- and they are.

 

[Dino246]

can you prove which of the churches, how ever many you believe exist, are the Church Jesus Christ established on Pentecost with 120, believing and teaching the same doctrine Christ taught the 13 Apostles?

You quoted yourself and asked this question. So… go ahead and answer it.

 

[Dino246]

(Video link)

I viewed about half the video… enough to realize it is a waste of time. The video is voiced by an AI, not a human. The person behind the video is hidden behind a YouTube channel that promotes a narrow and aberrant view of Scripture.

The 45,000 churches”is presented as established fact, and is never justified with evidence.

2 Peter 1:21 is grossly mishandled, implying that interpretation of Scripture is prohibited… while the person presents his personal interpretation of Scripture. That’s hypocrisy.

Stop copy-pasting material uncritically.

 

[memberofthebride]

You quoted yourself and asked this question. So… go ahead and answer it.

no matter how I would answer it will not change your mind nor any others,

 

[Dino246]

no matter how I would answer it will not change your mind nor any others,

You *might* change my mind if you present unbiased relevant evidence that contradicts my position.

You haven’t done so.

 

[GWH]

Nope, I respectfully disagree.

Well, I respectfully encourage you to agree with Heb. 7:11-10:1, which indicates that the correct direction for understanding Scripture
is forward: interpret the OT in light of the NT, not the reverse.

 

[Magenta]

I viewed about half the video… enough to realize it is a waste of time. The video is voiced by an AI, not a human. The person behind the video is hidden behind a YouTube channel that promotes a narrow and aberrant view of Scripture.

The 45,000 churches”is presented as established fact, and is never justified with evidence.

2 Peter 1:21 is grossly mishandled, implying that interpretation of Scripture is prohibited… while the person presents his personal interpretation of Scripture. That’s hypocrisy.

Stop copy-pasting material uncritically.

With the proliferation of ai, just about anybody can make a video these days and promote
whatever they want. Click bait gets a lot of views and that is what they care about.

 

[GWH]

If you think that Hebrews 7:11-10:1 should be interpreted in a way that is contrary to Christ’s ministry, then you should not consider it to be inspired by Christ.

Christians believe every NT book was/is inspired by Christ, including Hebrews 7:11-10:1,
thus the needed ministry is to harmonize all of his teachings and the OT in light of the NT,
not the reverse, as Judaizers do.

 

[Magenta]

1 Corinthians 11:19~ No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God's approval.

 

[legion]

Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him , The first of all the commandments is Here , O Israel ; The Lord our God is one Lord : And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart , and with all thy soul , and with all thy mind , and with all thy strength; this is the first commandment.

I must ask the question how many commandments are there ? 10

Are there 2 sets of commandments?
No just one set of commandments.

What seems to be the problem?

think about it .

its given to israel not gentiles.

 

[legion]

Sin is what is contrary to God's character traits, such as with unrighteousness being sin, so the way to sin has existed for as long as God has been righteous regardless of when God gave laws in that regard. Sin was in the world before the law was given (Romans 5:13) because people were able to act in a way that was contrary to God's character traits before the law was given, moreover, that means that there were no actions that because righteous or unrighteousness when the law was given, but rather the law revealed what has always been the way to do that.

Ok well, we have already established your theology as heretical. Proven beyond any court's requirements. Nothing you say at this point really matters. We will pray for you to discover the real Jesus.

 

[NightTwister]

even if there were only a few dozen -- There is to be ONE BODY of Christ - not dozens: One bride, One church

can you prove which of the churches, how ever many you believe exist, are the Church Jesus Christ established on Pentecost with 120, believing and teaching the same doctrine Christ taught the 13 Apostles?

Paul foretold that when he died damnable heresies will come --- and they are.

For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known. -- 1 Cor 13:12 ESV

 

[Inquisitor]

So we can murder?
We can steal, and commit adultery?
We can take the Lord's name in vain?
We can have other god's?

This is acceptable because we are not under the law.

No law = no sin.

I told you already that the Gentiles were under the Noahide law.

Genesis 9:13
I set My bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a sign of a covenant between Me and the earth.

All mankind were in this rainbow covenant with YHWH.

Genesis 9:3
Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant.

For everyone all food given by YHWH includes plants and animals.

Genesis 9:6
Whoever sheds man’s blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God He made man.

Murder is forbidden in the rainbow covenant.

Genesis 20:3
But God came to Abimelech in a dream of the night, and said to him, “Behold, you are a dead man
because of the woman whom you have taken, for she is married.”

Adultery is also forbidden.

The ten commandments are specific laws given to Israel only at Mt Sinai and Israel is bound to obey
under the covenant.

So can Gentiles murder, commit adultery?

Not according to the rainbow covenant.

 

[TruthDefender]

I have never found any verse that made the first day of a week Holy nor a verse removing the 7th from Holy time.
or a even one verse stating sunday is the christian day for worship.

Christ said He is the Master of the 7th Day --- never ever mentioned the first day as special.
I will keep the day Christ is Lord and Master of.

The apostles gave us a pattern to follow their example. They did come together on the first day of the week to break bread; Jesus instituted the Lord’s supper (at the last Passover) as our example.

 

[TruthDefender]

even if there were only a few dozen -- There is to be ONE BODY of Christ - not dozens: One bride, One church

can you prove which of the churches, how ever many you believe exist, are the Church Jesus Christ established on Pentecost with 120, believing and teaching the same doctrine Christ taught the 13 Apostles?

Paul foretold that when he died damnable heresies will come --- and they are.

The Doctrine, His doctrine, to follow is the NC that He gave to us. This would be the True church.