Some thoughts on the Sabbath...

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I agree.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Gal 5:16-17
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

We need the Holy Spirit to do anything good. We are lost without the Spirit of God leading and empowering us.

It did not change at the cross. Moses was only able to do good by the indwelling of the Spirit, Daniel was only able to obey because of The Holy Spirit.

Today we can only obey because of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

But we will soon see.... does God want us to obey all 10 of the commandments or only 9 or 8 of them. ?

Do you think God will be upset if I obey 10 by the power of the Holy Spirit?

If you are wrong and the following verses are the about the 10 commandments what then....????

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

When the final Judgment comes
Will your excuses hold?

Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Don't say but I'm safe or saved in Christ's righteousness
This is true but will He justify those that work iniquity?

Mat 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

The will of the Father in heaven... ?

If you are wrong and all 10 are God's will, then you are working iniquity..

"I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Jesus will not justify those that work iniquity (lawlessness).
I see you fell back to your talking points. Figures.
Wisdom is for the mature. One cannot mature while believing Sinai is our standard.
 
The LXX also uses both Horeb and Sinai
The LXX is not the Holy Bible, not the word of God.

Rome's move toward mysticism has always paralleled its 'roasting' of biblical Christians. They have burned and banished bibles from the Majority Greek text, along with their owners, since the 4th century. Standing too close to the fire left that century's scribes with a "seared conscience." So they slipped corrupt Septuagint (LXX) readings into the bible to create a 'New' Latin Vulgate. To avoid detection Old Latin Vulgates were cast, owner and all, into the fire.

Modern mystics likewise like this 'New' Vulgate and its Septuagint readings rather than the Majority Greek N.T. Text or Hebrew Masoretic O.T. Text of the KJV.

Even the edition of The Septuagint marketed today points out in its preface that the stories surrounding its B.C. creation and existence are fables. (The Septuagint, Zondervan Publishing Co., 1970, (Samuel Bagster and Sons, London.) All of the LXX manuscripts cited in its concordance were written after A.D. 200. The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics elaborates calling "the Letter of the pseudoAristeas, a manifest forgery and the fragments of Aristobulus, which have also been highly suspect." (The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, p. 309.) The existence of an entire Greek Old Testament predating the life of Christ has no extant documentation. In fact, only scraps containing a few Old Testament chapters in Greek have ever been found.

'Alexandrianism' is evident throughout Origen's 'Septuagint' as the Encyclopedia's scholars note:

[T]he translators frequently modify the naive anthropomorphisms of the Old Testament, substituting, e.g., the power for the 'hand' of God and His 'glory' for his 'robe' [train] in Isaiah 6:1. In Genesis 1:2 they seize the opportunity to introduce the Platonic distinction of matter and form and in Psalm 51:12 the Stoical [your spirit instead of God's spirit]...intrudes itself.(The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, p. 309.)

The latter Stoical rendering appears in the new versions, which seem determined to have man succeed with his own spirit, rather than God's. Students of Gnosticism, Eastern mysticism and 'The Force' will recognize in the Encyclopedia's comments, the substitution, by the Septuagint, of a 'New Age god' for the God of the Old Testament. Numerous changes in the new versions are simply Origen's neo-platonic 'corrections' of the true Old Testament.

Among translators of the New Testament, we find die-hard 'Origen Fans' on the committee of the New Jerusalem Bible, New English Bible and Revised Standard Version. Even though Pamphilus "corrected" Origen's reading of John 1 1:25 for Aleph and B, based on P66 and P75 type-texts, these new versions retain Origen's truncated "I am the resurrection" rather than "I am the resurrection and the life." This is done based on Origen and P45, which is notorious for omissions. Origen has provided through his Septuagint Old Testament and New Testament documents, a vehicle for the propagation of the 'East meets West' religion for the 'New' Age.

The Septuagint (LXX) cannot be the word of God for several other reasons:

1. It contains apocryphal books such as Tobit, The Prayer of Manasses, Second Esdras, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruck, I and II Maccabee; there are also additions to Esther and Daniel. Jesus never quoted the Apocrypha and the Jews rejected it also.
2. The "fable" of its origin states that it was written under orders of the king of Egypt (Ptolemy) around 250 B.C. by 72 Jews. The word Septuagint, however, means 70. The "fable" further states that six Jews from each of the twelve tribes wrote it. However, only the tribe of Levi were permitted by God to write the scriptures (I Chronicles 16:4).
3. Any Jew living in or returning to Egypt was in direct disobedience to God's command in Deuteronomy 17:16. "But he shall not...cause the people to return to Egypt forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way."
4. Origen's six column Old Testament, the Hexapla, parallels O.T. versions by Theodotian, Symmachus, and Aquila, all three Gnostic occultists.
 
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The LXX is not the Holy Bible, not the word of God.

Rome's move toward mysticism has always paralleled its 'roasting' of biblical Christians. They have burned and banished bibles from the Majority Greek text, along with their owners, since the 4th century. Standing too close to the fire left that century's scribes with a "seared conscience." So they slipped corrupt Septuagint (LXX) readings into the bible to create a 'New' Latin Vulgate. To avoid detection Old Latin Vulgates were cast, owner and all, into the fire.

Modern mystics likewise like this 'New' Vulgate and its Septuagint readings rather than the Majority Greek N.T. Text or Hebrew Masoretic O.T. Text of the KJV.

Even the edition of The Septuagint marketed today points out in its preface that the stories surrounding its B.C. creation and existence are fables. (The Septuagint, Zondervan Publishing Co., 1970, (Samuel Bagster and Sons, London.) All of the LXX manuscripts cited in its concordance were written after A.D. 200. The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics elaborates calling "the Letter of the pseudoAristeas, a manifest forgery and the fragments of Aristobulus, which have also been highly suspect." (The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, p. 309.) The existence of an entire Greek Old Testament predating the life of Christ has no extant documentation. In fact, only scraps containing a few Old Testament chapters in Greek have ever been found.

'Alexandrianism' is evident throughout Origen's 'Septuagint' as the Encyclopedia's scholars note:

[T]he translators frequently modify the naive anthropomorphisms of the Old Testament, substituting, e.g., the power for the 'hand' of God and His 'glory' for his 'robe' [train] in Isaiah 6:1. In Genesis 1:2 they seize the opportunity to introduce the Platonic distinction of matter and form and in Psalm 51:12 the Stoical [your spirit instead of God's spirit]...intrudes itself.(The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, p. 309.)

The latter Stoical rendering appears in the new versions, which seem determined to have man succeed with his own spirit, rather than God's. Students of Gnosticism, Eastern mysticism and 'The Force' will recognize in the Encyclopedia's comments, the substitution, by the Septuagint, of a 'New Age god' for the God of the Old Testament. Numerous changes in the new versions are simply Origen's neo-platonic 'corrections' of the true Old Testament.

Among translators of the New Testament, we find die-hard 'Origen Fans' on the committee of the New Jerusalem Bible, New English Bible and Revised Standard Version. Even though Pamphilus "corrected" Origen's reading of John 1 1:25 for Aleph and B, based on P66 and P75 type-texts, these new versions retain Origen's truncated "I am the resurrection" rather than "I am the resurrection and the life." This is done based on Origen and P45, which is notorious for omissions. Origen has provided through his Septuagint Old Testament and New Testament documents, a vehicle for the propagation of the 'East meets West' religion for the 'New' Age.

The Septuagint (LXX) cannot be the word of God for several other reasons:

1. It contains apocryphal books such as Tobit, The Prayer of Manasses, Second Esdras, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruck, I and II Maccabee; there are also additions to Esther and Daniel. Jesus never quoted the Apocrypha and the Jews rejected it also.
2. The "fable" of its origin states that it was written under orders of the king of Egypt (Ptolemy) around 250 B.C. by 72 Jews. The word Septuagint, however, means 70. The "fable" further states that six Jews from each of the twelve tribes wrote it. However, only the tribe of Levi were permitted by God to write the scriptures (I Chronicles 16:4).
3. Any Jew living in or returning to Egypt was in direct disobedience to God's command in Deuteronomy 17:16. "But he shall not...cause the people to return to Egypt forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way."
4. Origen's six column Old Testament, the Hexapla, parallels O.T. versions by Theodotian, Symmachus, and Aquila, all three Gnostic occultists.

Yeah we've been through this before. I'm not talking with you
 
Or do search study in God Oath
Do you want to offer your thoughts on this topic with the verses in sripture that you are relying on? I would be interested in learning your position? Thanks.
I remember I thought I did but really myself thought if that's ok? .I'll take my Rest in Him! . If I may hear the HS Say Eternal rest!
.I'm my view of HS, it has Already Started For me.Enjoy
Revelation 14:13"Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them."
Revelation 14:13) is possible because a believer has already experienced a spiritual death and rebirth through baptism
 
Do you want to offer your thoughts on this topic with the verses in sripture that you are relying on? I would be interested in learning your position? Thanks.
Revelation 14:13) read
is possible because a believer has already experienced a spiritual death and rebirth through baptism.
Baptism is how you enter "into" the Lord: In Gal 3:27, , "For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." You cannot die "in the Lord" unless you are first placed "into" Him, which Paul says happens through baptism
 
Revelation 14:13) read
is possible because a believer has already experienced a spiritual death and rebirth through baptism.
Baptism is how you enter "into" the Lord: In Gal 3:27, , "For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." You cannot die "in the Lord" unless you are first placed "into" Him, which Paul says happens through baptism
I would imagine any believer should could say
 
Here is the Sabbath
To know Physical Death is Just Rest When a baptized believer physically dies, they aren't stepping into the unknown; they are simply Resting "in the Lord," wrapped in the Savior they were immersed into years before
So we have the advantage of what they didn't understand about the Sabbath That we kept the Sabbath For we died inHim Already
HS sealed
 
I remember I thought I did but really myself thought if that's ok? .I'll take my Rest in Him! . If I may hear the HS Say Eternal rest!
.I'm my view of HS, it has Already Started For me.Enjoy
Revelation 14:13"Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them."
Revelation 14:13) is possible because a believer has already experienced a spiritual death and rebirth through baptism
Just because we have rest in Jesus does not make the 4th commandment void.

God made it clear. And no where, Zero, nothing is said about changing or removing it.

Jesus said to keep the commandments Mat 19.
Jesus said Mat 5:18 KJV For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Jesus He was Lord of the Sabbath. Luke 6:9.
Jesus obeyed the Sabbath.

Jesus never said to stop keeping the sabbath. Jesus is a perfect example of righteousness and we should not fall into the trap of continuing in sin that grace may abound.
We should not think we can sin all we want because Jesus will give us His righteousness.

Sure we are saved by His righteousness because ours will never be good enough, but He came to save us from FROM SIN.
NOT IN SIN.

Rom 6:15-18
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

18... "Being then made free from sin" not in sin.

Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

1Pe 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

Mat 1:21 KJV And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
 
I didn't read at all .Call it Faith the Sabbath is completed in me In Him my eternal rest made for me also.
started a long long time ago . that's how the Holy Spirit good work for me. I'm never gonna change
I know who I am man or man of God .
Sealed no lack faith Here! If you want you can hit me with the book I'm 24 7 behold the word of God In me and it's written, as promised
 
I didn't read at all .Call it Faith the Sabbath is completed in me In Him my eternal rest made for me also.
started a long long time ago . that's how the Holy Spirit good work for me. I'm never gonna change
I know who I am man or man of God .
Sealed no lack faith Here! If you want you can hit me with the book I'm 24 7 behold the word of God In me and it's written as promised T
here is two law of the same law or different roads
To be with The Lord OT law with Covenant Oath The there is The New Covenant that completes the circumcision Oath that later is the Jesus son of man fullfilled Lord God.The orig Abram Covenant will see that at end day of the Lord second coming.
The rest not His. If you know who you are like David or Jesus they both had Authority on the Sabbath just say it's an inheritance spiritual rest Now.
 
Free advise lol find everything possible to the circumcision baptism covenant s and the Sabbath see what you find on your own , would say by Holy Spirit that could be the missing Key
 
I didn't read at all .Call it Faith the Sabbath is completed in me In Him my eternal rest made for me also.
started a long long time ago . that's how the Holy Spirit good work for me. I'm never gonna change
I know who I am man or man of God .
Sealed no lack faith Here! If you want you can hit me with the book I'm 24 7 behold the word of God In me and it's written as promised T
here is two law of the same law or different roads
To be with The Lord OT law with Covenant Oath

Then there is The New Covenant that completes the circumcision Oath that later is the Jesus son of man fullfilled Lord God.The orig Abram Covenant will see that at end day of the Lord second coming.
. If you know who you are like David or Jesus they both had Authority on the Sabbath just say it's an inheritance spiritual rest Now.
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ."
 
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ."
Jesus highlights that the physical ritual of circumcision—which was a sign of entering God's Covenant—was so vital that it overrode the strict command to rest on the Sabbath. He uses this hierarchy of laws to justify His act of healing (restoring a whole person), an act closely tied to the spiritual cleansing and Rebirth (symbolized) by later baptism.HS
  • to the Sabbath: "For with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to this people, to whom He said, ‘This is the rest with which you may cause the weary to rest,’ and, ‘This is the refreshing’..." (Paul quotes this in 1 Corinthians 14:21 regarding the gift of the Spirit).
 
Jesus highlights that the physical ritual of circumcision—which was a sign of entering God's Covenant—was so vital that it overrode the strict command to rest on the Sabbath. He uses this hierarchy of laws to justify His act of healing (restoring a whole person), an act closely tied to the spiritual cleansing and Rebirth (symbolized) by later baptism.HS
  • to the Sabbath: "For with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to this people, to whom He said, ‘This is the rest with which you may cause the weary to rest,’ and, ‘This is the refreshing’..." (Paul quotes this in 1 Corinthians 14:21 regarding the gift of the Spirit).
The Spirit's Restoration: If the Sabbath was made to give life and rest to man, it finds its perfect execution when the Holy Spirit baptizes a believer.

The Ultimate Fulfillment: Water baptism symbolizes dying to the old self and rising anew. The Holy Spirit Baptism actually brings the man soul into the definitive, permanent state of Rest. The Spirit fulfills Mark 2:27 because the Holy Spirit does not burden the "whole man" with rigid, external rituals. Instead, the Spirit regenerates the human soul from the inside out, providing the exact spiritual refreshment, rest, and divine relationship that the Sabbath day was originally created to provide
 
I didn't read at all .Call it Faith the Sabbath is completed in me In Him my eternal rest made for me also.
started a long long time ago . that's how the Holy Spirit good work for me. I'm never gonna change
I know who I am man or man of God .
Sealed no lack faith Here! If you want you can hit me with the book I'm 24 7 behold the word of God In me and it's written, as promised
Ecc 12:13-14
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Jas 2:11-12
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
 
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Obvious you did read word posted if myself.So it's not for you . I all up to the savior. I myself has to forget all I was taught it's not ez but it's the best thing to do in all it uneducate. Look at my replys the thing I'm all kinds of stuff only because they don't know the Lord in me.it men it funny but to Him saddening
 
Obvious you did Not read A word posted of myself.So it's Not for you . Its all up to the savior. I myself had to forget all I was taught it's not ez but it's the best thing to do i call it To uneducate. Look at my replys the thing I'm called all kinds of stuff only because they don't know the Lord in me. To men it funny but to Him saddening
Please don't teach what it looks like don't use salvation fear God judgment etc structures of Scripture to back you theorys doctrine of I can't even say or know?
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