Stagnant growth

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Kojikun

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I'm getting concerned that I am not growing in God. It's hard for me to enjoy and read the bible due to panic attacks. Questions such as "Am I doing this right? Should give this up? Should I do this more?" It also makes me question if I'm saved in the first place. Sometimes I feel like scream it bothers me so much. My addiction unfortunately is still going strong. I have days where I resist but days when I stumble. I'm trying to do more around my house. Not just to help out more but to take my mind off the constant fear and worry I have. I'm just wondering if I'm growing at all but I cant tell.
 

love_comes_softly

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Try not to analyze what you do.

Keep reading, keep doing things around the house, try something new and if you mess up, start fresh. Don’t think. It is what it is. Leave it all be and you will be ok.

I know that’s harder said than done, but trusting the Lord is not something you can do through analyzing things.

Praying for peace in your life and an abundance of trust and faith in God. The one that loves you more than anyone else ever could.
 

love_comes_softly

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Another thought, just because you don’t see a seed growing beneath the soil, doesn’t mean it’s not.
 

christian74

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In John 15:5 Jesus said, "I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing."

You and I, being branches, it's not our job to figure out or worry about whether we are growing or bearing fruit. Our job is make sure that WE are intimately connected to Jesus, as He is our True Vine. Don't concern yourself with whether you are growing up as the growth and bearing fruits will be natural results of abiding in Jesus in its due season. How do we abide in Jesus, the living Word of God? You spend time with Him everyday. Grab coffee, open up your Bible, grab a seat and just chat with Him. I say 'chat' because He likes to grab coffee and chat with you, talking about how things are going with you and all your video game interests (He likes to hear about your opinions on games). Tell Him also about your inability to read and enjoy His word because of panic attack and you should rebuke any spirit of evil, anything that does not line up with God's word in Jesus name because there is power and authority in His name. Also plead the blood of Jesus on yourself, on your family and your place of abode. Lastly, my personal recommendation, read the book of Psalm everyday. Just read it straight, no need to meditate on it, just straight read, one chapter a day, a verse, or as much as you feel like reading - but keep reading and start from the first chapter once you go through the entire book. Repeat and I guarantee you that you will begin to see changes taking place internally. Just as God commanded Joshua be strong (withstanding hardship) and be courageous (not being deterred by danger/pain and keep moving forward), do not be afraid or be disheartened by your circumstances for the LORD your God is with you wherever you go.
 

Kojikun

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In John 15:5 Jesus said, "I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing."

You and I, being branches, it's not our job to figure out or worry about whether we are growing or bearing fruit. Our job is make sure that WE are intimately connected to Jesus, as He is our True Vine. Don't concern yourself with whether you are growing up as the growth and bearing fruits will be natural results of abiding in Jesus in its due season. How do we abide in Jesus, the living Word of God? You spend time with Him everyday. Grab coffee, open up your Bible, grab a seat and just chat with Him. I say 'chat' because He likes to grab coffee and chat with you, talking about how things are going with you and all your video game interests (He likes to hear about your opinions on games). Tell Him also about your inability to read and enjoy His word because of panic attack and you should rebuke any spirit of evil, anything that does not line up with God's word in Jesus name because there is power and authority in His name. Also plead the blood of Jesus on yourself, on your family and your place of abode. Lastly, my personal recommendation, read the book of Psalm everyday. Just read it straight, no need to meditate on it, just straight read, one chapter a day, a verse, or as much as you feel like reading - but keep reading and start from the first chapter once you go through the entire book. Repeat and I guarantee you that you will begin to see changes taking place internally. Just as God commanded Joshua be strong (withstanding hardship) and be courageous (not being deterred by danger/pain and keep moving forward), do not be afraid or be disheartened by your circumstances for the LORD your God is with you wherever you go.
I'm in the process of reading Luke. So far so good
 

cinder

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Well someone wiser than me once said "Anything worth doing is worth doing poorly" so even if you're doing Bible reading all wrong, it's still better to do it all wrong than not do it at all.
 

BrotherMike

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I'm getting concerned that I am not growing in God. It's hard for me to enjoy and read the bible due to panic attacks. Questions such as "Am I doing this right? Should give this up? Should I do this more?" It also makes me question if I'm saved in the first place. Sometimes I feel like scream it bothers me so much. My addiction unfortunately is still going strong. I have days where I resist but days when I stumble. I'm trying to do more around my house. Not just to help out more but to take my mind off the constant fear and worry I have. I'm just wondering if I'm growing at all but I cant tell.
I think of this verse...

Proverbs 21:2

A person may think their own ways are right, but the LORD weighs the heart.

My friend we are secured in Christ. He knows your heart. Move forward knowing He knows your thoughts and desires and do your best in pleasing Him. The past is just that the past. All you can do is focus on the now and the future. Pray that He gives you wisdom and strength as you live for Him.
 
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To just be very forthright with you, no you are not growing. It's natural to have questions, and even doubts, as you grow, but it's not natural to have anxiety/panic attacks and such.

Anxiety/panic attack type things are not of God. I find anxiety is common for people that either have no relationship, or a very weak relationship, with their earthly father, and they have been to a degree overrun spiritually by their mother.
 

BrotherMike

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To just be very forthright with you, no you are not growing. It's natural to have questions, and even doubts, as you grow, but it's not natural to have anxiety/panic attacks and such.

Anxiety/panic attack type things are not of God. I find anxiety is common for people that either have no relationship, or a very weak relationship, with their earthly father, and they have been to a degree overrun spiritually by their mother.
My roommate has anxiety and he had a decent relationship with his Dad. I am thinking it could be chemical makeup or genetics that could contribute?
 
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My roommate has anxiety and he had a decent relationship with his Dad. I am thinking it could be chemical makeup or genetics that could contribute?
No it is not genetics nor chemicals, it is spiritual. Your roommate probably does not have as good a relationship with his father as may be portrayed. Even if you know your father, it's quite possible he is weak and that he allowed the mother to spiritually overrun the child to a degree. Just simply forgive him for being weak and this will give you strength.
 

BrotherMike

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No it is not genetics nor chemicals, it is spiritual. Your roommate probably does not have as good a relationship with his father as may be portrayed. Even if you know your father, it's quite possible he is weak and that he allowed the mother to spiritually overrun the child to a degree. Just simply forgive him for being weak and this will give you strength.
I was and am not close with my Father but we get along. I’m totally in love with my Heavenly Father though and I know that has bring me peace.
 
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I was and am not close with my Father but we get along. I’m totally in love with my Heavenly Father though and I know that has bring me peace.
Indeed the Lord God is a better Father, but nonetheless the earthly father is important as he is a reflection of God. Children get their security, or lack of it, from the strength or weakness of their earthly father.
 

BrotherMike

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Indeed the Lord God is a better Father, but nonetheless the earthly father is important as he is a reflection of God. Children get their security, or lack of it, from the strength or weakness of their earthly father.
It is important but I do know the joy of the Lord is our strength and He can guide us in how to love others and our children even if we were not shown it.
 

Mel85

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Indeed the Lord God is a better Father, but nonetheless the earthly father is important as he is a reflection of God. Children get their security, or lack of it, from the strength or weakness of their earthly father.
Just remember some of us don’t have earthly Fathers.

Therefore we seek His Kingdom first.
 
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It is important but I do know the joy of the Lord is our strength and He can guide us in how to love our children even if we were not shown it.
Yes, of course, if you follow God's way you will do what is right anyways, and your children will be strengthened by it either continuing in your goodness, or they will repent and do wickedly and be destroyed by God for it. Likewise if you are wicked and you do the things God hates, you will do what is wrong and you will make your own children suffer for it and either they will continue in your wickedness, or they will repent, and begin to follow the Lord and be saved.
 

Pemican

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I'm getting concerned that I am not growing in God. It's hard for me to enjoy and read the bible due to panic attacks. Questions such as "Am I doing this right? Should give this up? Should I do this more?" It also makes me question if I'm saved in the first place. Sometimes I feel like scream it bothers me so much. My addiction unfortunately is still going strong. I have days where I resist but days when I stumble. I'm trying to do more around my house. Not just to help out more but to take my mind off the constant fear and worry I have. I'm just wondering if I'm growing at all but I cant tell.
Make the decision to make the study of the Word of God the priority of your life. Find the best Pastor-Teacher you can and learn from him. The scriptures are complex and require guidance of a really good teacher. That's why God gave some the gift to teach. The Word of God transforms us from the inside out. It takes time, that's why this decision is vital. Do it and don't look back.
 
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Just remember some of us don’t have earthly Fathers.

Therefore we seek His Kingdom first.
It is still good in the eyes of God to make the peace with your earthly father, even if he is wicked, for your own sake to have peace.
 

Mel85

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It is still good in the eyes of God to make the peace with your earthly father, even if he is wicked, for your own sake to have peace.
For some people, they’ve never met their earthly father or they passed away at a young age.

I believe we should focus on seeking God before man. This is my encouragement to @Kojikun - seek God, repent and surrender all and witness the extraordinary things God is going to do in your life!
 
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For some people, they’ve never met their earthly father or they passed away at a young age.

I believe we should focus on seeking God before man. This is my encouragement to @Kojikun - seek God, repent and surrender all and witness the extraordinary things God is going to do in your life!
Well they should go meet their earthly father if he is not dead. It is good to forgive your father for being weak, and it is good to know his side of things about your beginnings, if anything for your own sake.